mike23
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Post by mike23 on May 5, 2021 21:18:51 GMT -6
Hey Ace,Maybe GM Joe is Mr.D ?
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Post by Jon on May 5, 2021 22:18:39 GMT -6
Ace and Omega--very interesting screenshots! (GM Joe is especially tantalizing.) Thanks for those. I've only seen the first episode so far. No problem!
GM Joe...wasn't there an auto executive with ties to the cult? That's right. GM was operating the North Tarrytown Assembly back then; it closed in 1996.
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Post by ace on May 6, 2021 6:51:21 GMT -6
No problem!
GM Joe...wasn't there an auto executive with ties to the cult? That's right. GM was operating the North Tarrytown Assembly back then; it closed in 1996. He connects “Grants” with Sisman in both flowcharts. What the hell is Grants? A bar? Literal grants, as in National Endowment for the Arts?
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Post by Omega on May 6, 2021 7:17:21 GMT -6
Also under the Radin/Sisman chart, there is references to Columbia (most likely University - where Virginia Voskerichian attended) as well as the "Sutton Place vicinity murders - near Dangerfield's"
In a city that has many swanky and elite addresses, Sutton Place in NYC is the swankiest amongst the swanky! It's a small stretch that runs between E. 53rd Street to the 59th Street Bridge and borders the East River. The iconic "bridge/bench" scene from Woody Allen's movie "Manhattan" was shot there.
Dangerfield's (yes, Rodney!) was a comedy club in the 1970s-80s not far away on First Avenue.
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Post by gv889 on May 6, 2021 7:47:56 GMT -6
Just wanted to let you guys know around 1999 I was at 1 Police Plaza (Manhattan) talking to a retired LAPD Detective Sgt. In 1969 he was a relatively new detective investigator who was one of the first detectives on the scene of the Sharon Tate Polanski murder. He told me that there was a large cache of child porn found in the house along with a few black robes. They surmised at the time that that stuff belonged to Roman Polanski but they were convinced that Sharon Tate was well aware that Mr Polanski and his friend Wojciech Frykowski enjoyed that filth. It was also known that Frykowski was dealing LSD as well.
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Post by ace on May 6, 2021 8:08:06 GMT -6
Just wanted to let you guys know around 1999 I was at 1 Police Plaza (Manhattan) talking to a retired LAPD Detective Sgt. In 1969 he was a relatively new detective investigator who was one of the first detectives on the scene of the Sharon Tate Polanski murder. He told me that there was a large cache of child porn found in the house along with a few black robes. They surmised at the time that that stuff belonged to Roman Polanski but they were convinced that Sharon Tate was well aware that Mr Polanski and his friend Wojciech Frykowski enjoyed that filth. It was also known that Frykowski was dealing LSD as well. I’d heard about the robes but not the child porn. Sharon was said to be getting into the occult around the time of Rosemary’s Baby and Polanski, well, nothing would surprise me about that guy. He’s a dark fucker and always has been. I believe one of the early reports described the Tate scene as “ritualistic” or a “ritual gone wrong”. I’m re-reading CHAOS at the moment and it’s just as chilling as The Ultimate Evil.
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Post by ace on May 6, 2021 8:11:34 GMT -6
Also under the Radin/Sisman chart, there is references to Columbia (most likely University - where Virginia Voskerichian attended) as well as the "Sutton Place vicinity murders - near Dangerfield's"
In a city that has many swanky and elite addresses, Sutton Place in NYC is the swankiest amongst the swanky! It's a small stretch that runs between E. 53rd Street to the 59th Street Bridge and borders the East River. The iconic "bridge/bench" scene from Woody Allen's movie "Manhattan" was shot there.
Dangerfield's (yes, Rodney!) was a comedy club in the 1970s-80s not far away on First Avenue.
Good eye, my friend! I couldn’t make that stuff out. Gosh I hope Dangerfield isn’t our “Mr. D”, lol. I love him in Caddyshack.
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Post by Omega on May 6, 2021 8:36:30 GMT -6
Gosh I hope Dangerfield isn’t our “Mr. D”, lol. I love him in Caddyshack.
Thankfully, the "sleuths" out there are saying "Mr. D's" initial are "J.D." and not "R.D."
To those same "sleuths," on revealing those "J.D." initials - "Well...we're WAITING!"
Sorry, it's Ace's fault...got me started on "Caddyshack" quotes!
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Post by Jon on May 6, 2021 9:04:43 GMT -6
Was wondering about "Grant's" myself. No idea!
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Post by mike23 on May 6, 2021 10:29:32 GMT -6
Is anyone here familiar with that name,John Weiland ,shown in the attachments on page 5 of this thread?Yonkers resident possibly ,during the shootings?
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Post by gv889 on May 6, 2021 10:55:53 GMT -6
Also under the Radin/Sisman chart, there is references to Columbia (most likely University - where Virginia Voskerichian attended) as well as the "Sutton Place vicinity murders - near Dangerfield's"
In a city that has many swanky and elite addresses, Sutton Place in NYC is the swankiest amongst the swanky! It's a small stretch that runs between E. 53rd Street to the 59th Street Bridge and borders the East River. The iconic "bridge/bench" scene from Woody Allen's movie "Manhattan" was shot there.
Dangerfield's (yes, Rodney!) was a comedy club in the 1970s-80s not far away on First Avenue.
There were quite a few upscale brothels in the vicinity of Sutton Pl at that time, perhaps some of the female student body at Columbia University were employed there? By the way I was a plainclothes vice officer not a customer......If anyone was wondering
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Post by marionumber1 on May 6, 2021 11:40:10 GMT -6
No problem!
GM Joe...wasn't there an auto executive with ties to the cult? That's right. GM was operating the North Tarrytown Assembly back then; it closed in 1996. Anyone have more info on that auto (possibly GM) executive connection? The mention of that is interesting because the Detroit pedophile ring in the 70s with ties to North Fox Island and the Oakland County Child Killer (OCCK) murders involved GM executives — such as H. Lee Busch, whose son Chris Busch followed in his pedophile footsteps and was a major OCCK suspect that got "suicided" — and there are signs of that ring being connected to the Son of Sam group.
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Post by jvst1ce on May 6, 2021 12:37:47 GMT -6
Someone earlier said that they are looking into stuff in the 1920’s. Has anyone ever looked into serial killer “Albert Fish” and specifically the cottage in Irvington (Mountain Rd) where he defiled and chopped up one of his female victims?
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Post by mike23 on May 6, 2021 13:29:09 GMT -6
I guess like a lot of you,I wasn't expecting any real "earth shattering" new info from this series,so I wasn't really letdown by it.I think for the casual true crime fan it may have sparked some new interest in the case and that's always good. One thing I would say that disappointed me was there was not a real concerted effort to examine the"purge".I realize the Carrs' are always a risk free area for these shows to highlight,but I think they should have bare minimum covered the deaths of Suzette Rodriguez,Carol Marron and Howie Green,as well as Joseph Carozza.That would have been a safe way to strengthen Maurys position,via TUE,that there was indeed an"in-house" cleanup,occurring after the arrest of Berkowitz .I guess that may have been a little too much for the producers of the series.
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Post by justiceseeker on May 6, 2021 13:56:49 GMT -6
I see that a Wendy (with her surname mentioned) is part of the list of women in the Son of Sam group. Might that happen to be "Big Breasted Wendy", the witch known to frequent the Magickal Childe shop in NYC whom Maury initially suspected was Carl Denaro's shooter? Anyone happen to have an idea how old "Big Breasted Wendy" was purported to be at the time? Could this Wendy be WSK, the club kid?
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