Attached are two screenshots that have been going around various Son of Sam circles, and I think they belong here as well. They are (or rather,
were) public YouTube comments posted by "Neo" under recent Manny videos. As most will be aware, Neo was one of Manny's research partners. Of course these comments were deleted in short order.
Just to add a few comments on the curious case of Manny Grossman, I will say that it's to his credit that he served as a catalyst and was helpful in getting other researchers to go the extra mile and unearth new information. Whether or not any of that new information will ever help PROVE anything one way or the other about what really happened with Berkowitz, who knows. But some of it is interesting stuff.
Now that virtually everyone who ever worked closely with Manny has abandoned him, it's very telling to see his own skills as a researcher come to the fore in recent weeks. Quite simply,
research skills aside, he has scarcely any
logic at all and is completely free-floating with his prejudice and inductive reasoning.
He is maniacally fixated on Maury Terry and should bill himself as a "Maury Terry discreditor", not a Son of Sam researcher. To that end, he
has done a fair job of calling a fair amount of Terry's research into question. Of course, he's not the first person to do so, nor the most prominent or the most popular. Those latter distinctions would go to the "Sons of Sam" documentarians whose work debuted right before Manny decided to become an internet celebrity. Every time Manny reminds his audience that he used to be a Maury Terry fan--he thinks this gives him credibility, but all it does is reveal him as the sort of obsessive "Stan" or spurned fan of the worst kind. Now Manny has become totally sidetracked and has lost all semblance of objectivity. He reads transcripts of interviews conducted by Terry, and imagines that Terry must be screaming at people and lurching around the room threatening them. After all, he tells us, one person one time said Terry was "a bit of a bully in high school", and that character witness is enough for Manny to believe that Terry drove all the way to North Dakota to scream bloody murder at people until they gave false testimony about John Carr.
You see, in Manny's world if someone could not
exactly reproduce an occult symbol that they briefly saw John Carr draw--that means that it never happened. Wouldn't the fact that this person saw John Carr draw a weird occult symbol be in itself interesting testimony establishing a
potential link between John Carr and a cult group? No, no, you see, the fact that a civilian unschooled in any of this couldn't draw the symbol himself
exactly means that we need to disregard the whole thing. Actually, wasn't it
two people that claimed they saw Carr draw this symbol, one on a notepad and one on a phone book? Manny tells us that the fact that there were multiple witnesses, each seeing John Carr draw the symbol in separate places, means that this is actually
less credible than if only one person saw it! I'm dead serious; that's what he said. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not as great a researcher as Manny! What's worse, once they were shown the Son of Sam symbol, they immediately said they recognized it but said that part of it looked a little different from what they remember John Carr drawing. You might think that's an understandable feature of human memory, or that perhaps Carr's symbol was slightly different from Berkowitz's, since symbols in general are often slightly altered and who knows what kind of armchair occultism these idiots were playing at. But, no, the whole thing never happened! None of it!
Clearly Maury Terry put them up to this! If someone can't
exactly reproduce from memory a strange symbol they only saw once, it obviously means they're lying!
These are the high standards that Manny demands! Pay no mind that, in the same recent videos, Manny alleges that Berkowitz probably moved near Wicker Street in Yonkers because of the "Wicker Man" movie. Never before has anyone said that Berkowitz liked, saw, or even knew about this movie, but Manny's Holmsian brain has deduced that it was actually the driving force in Berkowitz's life! What's Manny's basis for this? Well, you see, Berkowitz was obsessed with the movie "Taxi Driver"--and "Taxi Driver" and "Wicker Man"
are both movies! "The Wicker Man" was a 1973 British horror movie that never even had a wide release in the U.S., and Berkowitz wasn't even discharged from the Army until 1974. "Taxi Driver" was of course a 1976 movie, and one or two people claim that Berkowitz was intrigued by that movie. Berkowitz wore an army jacket, you see, like the character in "Taxi Driver". Of course, Berkowitz could have also worn an army jacket
because he himself had been in the U.S. Army... but never mind that! You see, Berkowitz was
obsessed with "Taxi Driver"... and
that means that he was obsessed with "The Wicker Man"! Follow the logic, people! And even though Yonkers was a hotbed of weird cult activity, referenced by Berkowitz multiple times, Berkowitz
really moved to Yonkers because he was secretly obsessed with "The Wicker Man", which has nothing to do with Yonkers, but there
is a Wicker Street in Yonkers!
I hope everyone here appreciates these amazing connections that Manny has made here. He has shattered the paradigm again, and everyone who doesn't agree with him must be a brainwashed slave of Maury Terry.
P.S. Some other Mannyisms to keep in mind:
Duke and
King were the names of two dogs, and
that means there was no cult group! Well, we know there were cult groups in Yonkers, and we know Berkowitz knew about them, but he wasn't in one himself. And the proof of that is the names of the dogs. Berkowitz worked alone, guys! Manny interviewed the Neto family, who told him that they saw Berkowitz get into the
passenger side of a car.
That proves he worked alone and John Carr had nothing to do with this! The Carrs didn't even know Berkowitz! Of course, Manny's expert eyewitness "Caveman" placed the Carrs and Berkowitz together at Untermyer Park,
but that doesn't mean anything! Also: don't you dare discredit Caveman! We need to accept Caveman's testimony about everything else, but not about seeing Berkowitz with the Carrs! Also,
yes, someone else Manny heard from said they witnessed Berkowitz ask for Wheat Carr in a bar or a public place--and at the time that immediately caused Manny to speculate that Berkowitz and Wheat were romantic together--but now we need to believe that Berkowitz thought "Wheat" was just John Carr's middle name, because of their phone book listing, which is all he knew about them. How he ever learned the names of neighbors' dogs but didn't know the names of the Carr siblings, I don't know, but he did! There is no misdirection whatsoever in any of this, not from Berkowitz, not from the Carrs, and certainly not from Manny Grossman! If you disagree, you need to have an intervention from The Great Eric Gelati, who will have you awkwardly mispronouncing everyone's name and putting the wrong ac-CENT on the wrong syl-LA-ble with ever-more-embarrassing impressions of up to 22 different ethnic dialects!
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