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Silveria
May 23, 2021 15:41:18 GMT -6
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Post by kmik on May 23, 2021 15:41:18 GMT -6
I m confused does LE KNOW that he was in prison at the time of these murders? From what I’ve read it was just a possibility.
Does he have any connection to any of the victims or PON’s besides Pam K and Debbie E? What about Carol E?
I think we’d be a little naive to think he hung around Quincy without a friend or two.
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Silveria
May 25, 2021 11:43:48 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on May 25, 2021 11:43:48 GMT -6
All I ever saw was a post by Josh Hancock (I believe) saying he confirmed silveria was locked up. But nobody else has ever been able to confirm. More than afew people have tried finding something corabative. No registrys, no bookings, police reports, news blotters, or even first hand witnesses have been offered as proof
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Silveria
Jun 11, 2021 18:26:53 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jun 11, 2021 18:26:53 GMT -6
"RdC said privately last year that he feels strongly that Robert knows exactly who did this and probably why. But that they can't get it out of him.". The RdC referred to is officer De crona.
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Silveria
Jun 11, 2021 18:37:34 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jun 11, 2021 18:37:34 GMT -6
"I've made a post on www.keddiemurdersfilm.com about what I learned from Mr. Palmini. But essentially, there was a timeline created by ViCAP at Quantico, which detailed every contact made by law enforcement with Silveria. And he was in custody on 4/11/81. I've posted other details from my discussion with Mr. Palmini at my site. We were told by different PIs very early on in the movie that he was in custody at the time, but Mr. Palmini is clearly a definitive source. He wasn't "recollecting," but rather reporting from an official document that he spent time locating for us. Beyond that, he is a really nice person and offered a few theories about the Keddie Murders." Josh. "were still unable to confirm that he was in lock up.In fact one person actually spent well over an hour on the telephone with me going through everything that she had on him.I then called a friend who is a little higher up on the food chain and he also did a search and was unable to find anything for that date. I guess what it all boils down to is either both the state of Oregon and California are giving me wrong information,but neither of them are making a profit from selling a book and would have no reason that I could think of to do such a thing or the people who wrote the book have given incorrect information,which may be through no fault of there own.I dont know. Tara". From meanies
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 22, 2021 15:45:59 GMT -6
Silveria was writing letters to another inmate in which he described some of his murders. The inmate turned some of these over to police. One of the letters described the Keddie murders enough to grab le's attention. The inmate stashed some of the other letters hoping to sell them. They were retrieved with a search warrant. Decrona interviewed silveria in jail. He didn't believe silveria actually committed them, but because of certain details thought silveria definitely knew what happened and by who. These letters had to be admitted as evidence right? Where are they?
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 22, 2021 20:39:25 GMT -6
From the "keddiewhy" site on Tapatalk "Okay, I've re-read the book about RS. The mention of Keddie in connection to Havre, MT 1993 was very brief but after doing a little more reading elsewhere I wonder if RS was dropping a major hint as to the reason for the murders.
The Havre, MT murders appear to be part of a VERY large drug trafficking operation with international involvement. Drugs were being flown into the small airstrips in North and Eastern Montana from Canada (originating in Mexico) where they were unloaded for dispersal around the country. Some ended up on trucks and some ended up on TRAINS. The Hi-Line runs right through there and RS caught-out many times in Havre. It also connects there to the Pacific line...see the connection?
RS may have been hinting that the Keddie murders were directly linked to this operation. The people killed in 1993 were killed because they had knowledge of the drug trafficking and threatened to tell (or had already told but those who were told were involved). I think it's possible Robert was trying to tell LE the Keddie murders were for the same reason. I think he needs to be listened to more closely...
With the Montana murders, LE was deeply involved as well as the local DAs, banks, etc. They were all benefiting from the trafficking. The cartel had to get local "enforcers" involved for their movements to go unnoticed and run smoothly. Perhaps there is a connection and it does involve the rails. Oroville is a very likely conclusion.
It's been mentioned there was an expectation of a large drug drop that night. A "trunkload" is a distinct possibility, to be dispersed throughout Calif. Railroaders may have turned a blind eye or taken pay-offs to look the other way when a large shipment suddenly appeared on one of their freight runs. Plus, putting it on the trains would make it difficult to trace back to it's true origins. Some train hoppers could have been doubling as drug runners. Makes sense to me.
Anyway, just some thoughts after having read all that. I'm sure I'm all wrong and will be off on another tangent soon but thought I'd share my current thoughts.
Peace. Not Sure"
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Post by hope on Jul 31, 2021 8:24:10 GMT -6
Silveria was writing letters to another inmate in which he described some of his murders. The inmate turned some of these over to police. One of the letters described the Keddie murders enough to grab le's attention. The inmate stashed some of the other letters hoping to sell them. They were retrieved with a search warrant. Decrona interviewed silveria in jail. He didn't believe silveria actually committed them, but because of certain details thought silveria definitely knew what happened and by who. These letters had to be admitted as evidence right? Where are they? I wasn't aware of this, of the letters. Its very interesting. Where was this from? A newspaper article? I would love to know what these said in these letters as well and where they're at today. I would really like to know who all Silveria hung out with back then. I know one of the local forum posters from years ago said they used to party with Silveria & he could loose his sh*t in a matter of seconds. Let me see if I can find them to post here. I remember reading an article about another FRA member & the LE officer said it is very common for people like him to clear the books for a friend. Once arrested & facing serious jail time they would confess to other murders they knew their friends had committed. Take the fall since they were facing life in jail anyway. Whatever his reason for confessing was, his recanting may have simply been because the Keddie murders were very different than the murders he committed while riding the rails. The victims were a woman & kids, including a 12 year old little girl. Again, it'd be helpful to know who he hung out with while in Plumas County & who he may have heard inside information from. Still waiting on confirmation from Ca DOC as to whether or not Silveria was really locked up in April 81.
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Post by hope on Jul 31, 2021 9:01:15 GMT -6
Here are those old posts:
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Silveria
Jul 31, 2021 13:27:47 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 31, 2021 13:27:47 GMT -6
Wow! Fantastic stuff! I've been looking into palmini. Looks like he's still alive and writing, if I find some contact info I'll try to get ahold of him. Thanks for putting all that together. It may not have been silvera,but I think it was someone like silveria. That kind of black out rage that can only end when it's exhausted.
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Silveria
Jul 31, 2021 14:09:09 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 31, 2021 14:09:09 GMT -6
Hope said,"I only caught references to old conversations when they were brought up again. I remember Valley Flyer especially questioning/mentioing the Silveria & Dana connection." Was this about silverias sister? I don't remember this, I've gone over VFs many times but he wrote ALOT. And alot of what he wrote was pretty vague
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Silveria
Jul 31, 2021 22:31:20 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 31, 2021 22:31:20 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Aug 1, 2021 9:56:31 GMT -6
Thanks for the link! And no, it wasn't because Silveria's sister. That connection was only recently uncovered by Karis & Kmik.
I will see if I have any of those posts by VF saved.
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Silveria
Aug 2, 2021 13:59:36 GMT -6
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Silveria
Aug 12, 2021 20:55:47 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 12, 2021 20:55:47 GMT -6
Silveria told his uncle he'd killed 17 people before 1985. He moved to Quincy in 1980 after doing time for auto theft. Apparently he did more jail time after stealing his dads car. Its murky, but apparently he never went to prison before the murders. 1st to juvie, finishing off his time in jail. I can't find anything so far, for the time frame he stole his dad's car. On the psychological write up I posted (and elsewhere) it states he wasnt a "torture" killer except for one time he and two other people murdered someone(s).
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Silveria
Aug 12, 2021 20:59:49 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 12, 2021 20:59:49 GMT -6
*but I do know that a sentence of over 1 year gets you from a jail to a prison term. And his only other release date was (in cali) for that time frame was 1984.
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