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Post by hope on Aug 12, 2021 21:38:13 GMT -6
17 people prior to 85? I wonder who his friend was for that "torture murder"? Dogman Tony? Here is something I had written up re: jail & the auto theft đ
I think its important no one has ever seen proof he was actually locked up. Josh said he heard from Palmeri (I think) that Silveria was locked up. But two old forum members that worked in law enforcement swore he wasn't. There was a lot of interesting stuff in that psychological profile, things I haven't been able to find more info on.
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Post by hope on Aug 12, 2021 21:48:50 GMT -6
Well, he wasn't locked up in June 1982. This is from June 23, 1982 
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Aug 12, 2021 22:23:42 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 12, 2021 22:23:42 GMT -6
Nice job! That's exciting to read! He must've Gotton himself arrested in Kentucky
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 14, 2021 15:24:52 GMT -6
Haha, This was not the plan today but I definitively know what murders RS was referring to. I found them before, but it seemed like a bad match. A little more looking and I found lots of unsubstantiated stories. Richard Cowan and Benardatte Doiron were murdered by Robert "Bobby" Henry Bone and Lloyd Wilson in 1987. The stories in the newspaper state the motive as "The woman testified that, fearing for her safety, she had lied to Wilson and told him that Cowan and another man had raped her." www.havredailynews.com/story/2010/01/23/local/bone-faces-hearing-on-murder-parole-violation/419215.html What I don't like about the official story is, why kill the girlfriend? Why add to the body count unnecessarily? Now comes the conspiracy web. Apparently Richard Cowan was wanted for violating parole and talking about making a deal. At risk were a local Prosecuting Attorney, a prominent banker, and a family with a very large grow operation. "About that time we had a double homicide, a man by the name of Richard Cowan and his girlfriend, Benardatte Doiron. Richard had violated his probation. There was going to be a hearing over the violation. He spread around to people that he was not going to jail. He was going to rat on this big drug operation that included people in high places in Chinook and Havre. He never showed up in court. This was at the end of January. At the end of February we found out that this man and his girlfriend were buried in the crawlspace of a farmhouse in Blaine County. Circumstances led me to believe there was more to this than the sheriff's office was saying. People started calling me, and I eventually ran onto a person that I think was the last friend of Richard to see them alive, within 30 minutes of their killing. I had to interview this fellow out in the country, because he was afraid for his life. He said Richard had told him, if he gets killed, it's going to be a certain name I refuse to give."https://www.afrocubaweb.com/montananarcomurders.htm The theory strings in the Kurth family. Ranchers severely in debt, who turned their farm into one of the biggest grow ops in order to save it. Their involvement in the murders seems the least likely of the conspiracy theories as they had no prior history in illicit trade or violence. " In 1985 a family of beef ranchers named the Kurth family in Fort Benton, Montana made a desperate decision. Due to massive drought and an already lean beef market, the Kurth family found themselves 1.2 million dollars in debt to Northwest Bank. After the bank froze their credit, the family met with a loan officer at the bank. The desperate family asked the loan officer, Floyd DeRusha, if there was anything they could do to recoup the losses. DeRusha reportedly said jokingly âother than growing marijuana, I donât know what you can do. Why donât you try that?â. The irony of the loan officerâs statement became self-evident only months later when Richard Kurth, the father of the family, picked up a magazine and happened on an article titled âMarijuana Savior of the Family Farm.â After reading the article in which it touted cannabis as a new cash crop, Richard made a conclusion: âI came up with the rationalization that people who own distilleries, whose product leads to drunk-driving deaths, sleep at night. So do the people who sell cigarettes, which kill thousands of people from lung cancer. We had to believe that what we were going to do wasnât any worse than what they did.â Towards the end of their endeavor, the people they dealt to were shaking them down, the man who supplied their first seeds wanted a straight up cut of ongoing profits. I'd think it would be in the best interest for the dealers if the farm kept operating, even if unhappy with their cut. That's why I really don't think the dealers ratted them out, I'm a little less sure about the seed guy. Anyway this is how it ended up going down. " In October of 1987, while Dick and Judith were away on a business trip to Spokane, Washington, five men claiming to be from the Drug Enforcement Administration showed up at the Kurthâs ranch, beat up Doug, Rhonda and Bill, the Kurthsâ children, and tied them to chairs. They then proceeded to take 400 marijuana plants. The next day, after Dick and Judithâs return, a man who said he had been at the ranch the night before called and demanded $25,000 by that afternoon âor else heâd call the real DEA and have us busted.â Panicked, the Kurth Family immediately decided to destroy the rest of their crop rather than risk the chance of arrest and prosecution at the hands of the authorities. The family was still destroying the marijuana when a cloud of dust appeared over the dirt road leading up to the ranch, heralding the arrival of legitimate lawmen, a posse from the DEA and the local sheriffâs office. Dismayed, the family realized the would-be extortionist had made good on his promise, and the law was at their doorstep. âI think everyone was crying just because it was finally over and we were so relieved,â Dick said." planet-3.org/the-peoples-plant-part-3-kurth-your-enthusiasm/
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Post by hope on Aug 14, 2021 20:49:21 GMT -6
Wow snoho, good find! What a crazy story. I notice a familiar surname in there. Going to check that story out more, thanks!
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 15, 2021 0:24:11 GMT -6
Thanks for saying that hope! I've seen several recognizable surnames in different unrelated crimes, and I'm always initially thinking, Holy crap, I gotta share this!. I find them randomly googling crimes that are mentioned specifically in the keddie case. I gotta say, these aren't that obscure of names, but still its kinda weird. Over the past week I've come across a few and don't recall which is which, but I'm thinking Spang?
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Post by hope on Aug 23, 2021 18:38:35 GMT -6
From the CA Department of Corrections:

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Post by hope on Aug 23, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -6
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Silveria
Aug 24, 2021 0:03:19 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 24, 2021 0:03:19 GMT -6
Hope, if you don't already own a cape, can I buy you one! This is AMAZING work! I (and many others) have waited sooo long for this. No hearsay, no third hand declerations, an honest to God traceable official document! That's some mighty fine detecting, mighty fine.
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Silveria
Dec 12, 2021 18:17:41 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 12, 2021 18:17:41 GMT -6
I'm dropping some excerpts here from GUNS, FREIGHTS AND ALCOHOL - THE AMERICAN DREAM
By An Anonymous Ex-Tramp There are alot of disturbing racist tirades in this writing, just fair warning if anyone looks this up. "I've been in both the towns mentioned, in Wishram they had five unsolved murders in the hobo jungles in 6 months. I heard this from the son of a rail yard employee, very small town, too.
Klamath Falls was a great jungle, great road, Western Pacific, down the Feather River Gorge over the desert from Ogden, Utah, very rugged country, some spectacular train wrecks. I waited so long for a freight at Klamath Falls one time, me and a bunch of other tramps, there were actually buzzards circling around overhead waiting for us to die. The n******s used to rob tramps and throw them off trains along there, between Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo, they had 5 or 6 unsolved murders on the beaches there in about 6 months, mostly hippies sleeping on the beaches, etc., a survivor said it was a gang of n******s, he lost an eye, plus all the tramps chucked off trains......The Western Pacific was one my favorites, the Union Pacific was the most dangerous for cops, but I rode their lines for 2000 miles and never saw a cop. The most dangerous town in America for cops was Cheyenne Wyo., I went through there with no problem, in one town, the train was leaving, a cop car comes roaring along at top speed, lets a guy out of the car, he runs as fast as he can, we help him into the boxcar, he said he was in jail, and the judge said, âIf we let you out of jail, will you catch the next train out of town?â He says, âI'll catch the one that just leftâ, they put him in a cop car and raced to the freight yard.
It costs money to keep you in jail, and all they get out of you is 2 for 1 -- 60 days if you don't work, 30 days if you work -- maybe for a 100 dollar fine, but it costs them maybe 5 bucks a day to keep you in jail, and your work is worth almost nothing. I talked to one tramp who got 30 days for panhandling, got out of jail, panhandled again, same town, got another 30 in the same jail.
I spent very little time in jail, usually at my own request, it's like the Salvation Army, they'll put you up if you say you have no place to go. You have to sign a register saying you spent the night voluntarily. The official name of the register was REGISTER OF TRAMPS HOUSED IN ... CITY JAIL.......That explains a lot of the murders. On the other hand, most of the tramps I met had to pool their cash just to buy wine. In the jungles, most of the murders are probably not robbery at all, but fights over wine bottles. Another reason is, they steal each other's Social Security cards to collect food stamps. Every tramp has a Social Security card, even if he doesn't have anything else, because they use them in the Sallies. Men have committed multiple murders for this reason alone...https://www.jrbooksonline.com/cwporter/letter18.htm
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