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Post by Omega on Mar 28, 2020 18:37:27 GMT -6
Just keeping with the theme of the threads Professor Horan created for the Arliss Perry topic.
In 2016, a gentleman by the name of Brian McCracken emerged and gave an interview to the New York Post claiming he was a witness to seeing perhaps Arlis Perry on the altar of the Stanford University church prior to her unfortunate end. Supposedly he was passing by the church around midnight on October 13th, 1974 and saw a young woman (supposedly Arlis) and a musician in an afro wig playing a flute.
The woman seemed to be fine and even gave a smile. Why it took McCracken 42 years to come forward with this, seemed odd at the time. This was before the Steve Crawford attempted arrest/suicide in 2018.
Here is the original New York Post article interview with Brian McCracken:
Also, Ed Opperman did an interview with McCracken on his show back when the Post story broke. McCracken seems to be articulate and straight forward in the interview and not seeking publicity.
The last piece here, and as Professor Horan's good buddy Jon Mitchell would say in his great Son of Sam book, here are some "Other Items of Interest (Hint, Hint)". See specifically the comments section:
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 1, 2020 12:24:21 GMT -6
Thanks! Yeah, David Lang is the guy McCracken's talking about. I have zero idea how much cred McCracken's story has, but I know someone who probably knows Lang. Let's see what we find out...I sort of maybe believe the gist of McCracken's story for one reason: I think Arlis went there voluntarily, and was playing along with something that suddenly took a turn she didn't expect. It would have been really, really important for "them" to believe she was a "willing" sacrifice. If McCracken was making something up, consciously or not, it would have been more "I heard screams, blah, blah, blah," not "It looked like the broad was playing along with whatever goofy shit these guys wanted her to do." And I believe him for another reason: Look at the stuff Lang composes music for ALL THE TIME. I don't think it's the least bit farfetched to think he may have volunteered to play some "Pan pipes" kind of music for some goofy occult brouhaha for some hippie friends. Oh, and I'll be credits to navy beans Lang knows Kenneth Anger, Robert Mapplethorpe, John Cage...
Oh, and a commenter on that blogspot thread mentions something about a "human sacrifice out by the rock quarry..." Does anyone know what he's talking about?
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 2, 2020 8:57:53 GMT -6
Okay. I knew Perlov was found not far from the quarry, but I wanted to double-check if there had been another. I wonder if there had been animal sacrifices there...
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Post by james1983 on Jul 17, 2020 10:38:16 GMT -6
I think McCracken saw it. My only question is if it could have been John Carr instead. Carr had sandy brown/blonde hair and an Afro in the picture with his sister Wheat.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 17, 2020 10:59:25 GMT -6
Or Michael Carr.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 17, 2020 11:49:25 GMT -6
I may be mistaken but didn't a witness say they seen someone with what they thought was a shaggy type blonde wig leaning against a wall before the Moskowitz murder?
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 18, 2020 7:30:45 GMT -6
Yup.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 18, 2020 17:26:59 GMT -6
I notice Dahmers name being brought up more frequently as of late which is good. Here's another interesting fact. Both Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayme Gacy use to frequent the L & L tavern in Chicago in search of their victims. Another fact about John Paul Ranieri that I mention is he claimed to be the one who threw the first bottle at police that lead to the Stone Wall Riots in New York. The Stone Wall was a gay bar that was used to prostitute underage males. The doorman was the famous Canadian Wrestler named Ed "Skull" Murphy, who was a pedophile himself, also an Informant. Ranieri claims to have been prostituted at the Stone Wall. I've always wondered if John Paul Ranieri was related to Keith Ranieri of the NVXM cult in the news lately. They spell their last name differently, but I seen where John Paul has spelled his last name the same as Keith in various places. Not sure, but it would be very interesting to find out if possible. I posted this here not knowing the proper place to post it since it's kinda an obscure topic.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 19, 2020 7:16:50 GMT -6
You guys are terrific. Keep it up!
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Post by marionumber1 on Jul 19, 2020 12:18:43 GMT -6
It is quite startling how many serial killers have evident connections to human trafficking rings. Very fascinating, James, that both Gacy and Dahmer were seeking out victims from the same establishment in Chicago. The L&L Tavern is not far from the intersection of Clark Street and Diversey Parkway, a major center for homosexual prostitution in the city that did not always involve consenting adults. Of all the most famous serial killers, Gacy probably has the starkest evidence of outright involvement in a pedophile ring. The following Chicago local news report, based on the work that attorney Steve Becker did for the mother of an alleged Gacy victim, is a must-watch for anyone who hasn't seen it: Throughout the mid 1970s, a notorious pedophile named John Norman operated a mail-order pedophile ring known as the Delta Project. Clients from around the country would sign up, indicate the type of boys they preferred, and then could arrange encounters with the Delta Project's child sex slaves. Norman's partner in the operation who handled much of the logistics was a local crook named Phillip Paske. As it turns out, Paske was also an employee of John Wayne Gacy for a time. Gacy even wrote a whole page of information about Paske to his lawyers, indicating that he knew Paske "pimps girls, boys for sex or movies". Moreover, when Gacy was on death row during his appeals, he made a phone call to one of his confidants Andy Matesi arguing that many other people had keys to his house and were involved in the murders. He says "we already know Rossi, Cram, Paske, and Norman were involved in the case", indicating he knew that Paske was connected to Norman. Michael Rossi and David Cram were two of his more well-known PDM employees who appear in the true crime coverage about Gacy (whereas Paske does not), who dug ditches in the crawlspace for Gacy but supposedly didn't know they were graves (yeah right ). And when interviewed by Walter Jacobson in 1992, during which Gacy implausibly tries to claim innocence in all the murders, he states that police had four additional suspects at the time of his arrest, three of whom were Rossi, Cram, and Paske. Not that we can take Gacy's word, but a TV news report on the case in early 1979 did say that "three former Gacy associates are still under investigation for their involvement in or knowledge of the assaults and murders", one of them being confirmed to be Rossi. Plus there is a good amount of evidence that Gacy wasn't solely responsible for all the murders. Among other pieces of evidence: Victim John Mowery moved in with Rossi days before he disappeared, Rossi was adamant about wanting to introduce Mowery to a friend who was about to go out of town the next day (Gacy did indeed go out of town the next day), after Mowery vanished Rossi was incredibly unconcerned, and Rossi later got drunk and boasted of knowing about a place where a ton of dead bodies were buried. No way is Gacy innocent, but he undoubtedly did have others assisting him in the murders. And given the connection with Paske, it is incredibly likely that some of Gacy's victims came directly from the Delta Project, or even that some victims of the Delta Project were stashed in the crawlspace by Paske and lumped in with Gacy's actual victims. What drew Becker into the case to begin with was being hired by Sherry Marino, the mother of official Gacy victim Michael Marino. Sherry had doubts that the body in Gacy's crawlspace identified as her son was really his, so she hired Becker to fight for it to be exhumed and DNA-tested. Ultimately it turned out that the body was not Michael Marino. Becker also obtained documents from the Chicago PD's missing person investigation strongly suggestive of Marino being trafficked: wgntv.com/2018/04/30/mother-of-boy-thought-to-be-gacy-victim-hoping-new-information-leads-to-answers/ Two months after he had disappeared, a witness saw Michael, then going by the name Louis Soto, planning to "board a bus" with a man. Two years after he had disappeared, a former classmate of Michael's ran into him at the intersection of Clark and Diversey. Note that John Norman's apartment was only a couple blocks away from that intersection which, as previously mentioned, is a noted center of homosexual prostitution in Chicago.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 19, 2020 14:05:20 GMT -6
Gacy was a Freemason, and I'm willing to bet a high ranking one at that. The reason I believe he was high ranking is that it seems his whole clown schtick was part of him being a Shriner and involved in their circuses. My friends father was a Shriner, and he said only high ranking Mason's were allowed in. He was 32 degree of the Scottish rite. This was 20 years ago though and things may have changed since then. It explains his involvement in politics, and him alluding the police for as long as he did. Neighbors claimed the smell of rotting flesh was so foul they could smell it in their own yards, but when police visit Gacy to talk with him about it nothing was mentioned by police. Gacy even had the police in his house talking with them, but yet they couldn't smell the rotting people under his floor? Police are trained to know what the smell of rotting flesh smells like in bigger cities like Chicago. Gacy claimed he got his techniques on killing from Dean Corll from Houston who was part of the same ring as Gacy. Corll killed 27 people in Houston with the help of a couple teenagers.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 20, 2020 6:25:32 GMT -6
Right. You have to be 32 degree to get into the Shriners. 32nd degree is about as hard to achieve as a Paw Patrol badge, but it does cost money. Gacy was also a precinct captain and had other political connections. Cops who suspected Gacy for years never got anywhere because they were continuously told to lay off him.
All this is one more reason NOT to execute people. Dead men tell no tales.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 20, 2020 19:40:46 GMT -6
Professor. I've been hearing a lot about private investigators on your show recently, and stumbled on an interesting fact. Alex Marti the Argentinian fascist death squad member who helped kill Roy Radin had his own private investigating business in Los Angeles
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Post by toby1961 on Jul 21, 2020 1:43:07 GMT -6
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Post by toby1961 on Jul 21, 2020 1:43:52 GMT -6
Any evidence that either Carr brother played the flute?
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