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Post by kmik on Oct 5, 2020 20:47:07 GMT -6
Yea thanks! I'm not saying I think any of the Meeks were involved either, but for some reason they felt the need to throw Marty under the bus quickly, and take Marilyn in so that they could brainwash her too.
In a lot of old cases people's stories change over the years due to new information that comes out - but if this is not their own memories they need to make that clear. In the video Sheila said that she didn't know Marty but she hadn't lived in Keddie as long as her family. She said Marty didn't like Johnny (but he made the friend list) and that her mom was friends with Marilyn (but she didn't make the friend list) and most of her comments were like Justin's - "That's what I heard".
I'm thinking this video was from 2015 because we were on Dmac's forum and he told us to check it out because I guess he'd just discovered it. Isn't it strange that by 2015 (11 years of all this info being brought to light and after her participation on the documentaries) she didn't even really know how to pronounce the last name of one of the men who supposedly murdered her family?
She said that she thought the case was botched but has she ever once considered that she and her friends were the very ones who helped botch the case? If we do then certainly she does because she knows what she told and she knows what the Meeks told her
She also said over the years, while living with her Aunt and foster family, the police would call and ask her questions but that was about it. The "friend list" was obviously something the police had called and asked about because it says on the bottom: received 5-19-1981 from Sheila Sharp - and by then she had been living in Oregon for about a month. I'm guessing the police were as stunned when they read this in 1981 as I am reading it today.
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Post by kmik on Oct 6, 2020 7:35:48 GMT -6
Dmac has released some statements by Vernal Mullen. Vernal said they came to the foster home around 4:30pm and left around 6:00pm. Vernal said he had an argument with Dana over setting the table. If the boys were at the Dorris home for an hour and half, around dinner time, did they eat dinner there? I know it doesn't really matter but Karis and I have always wondered how they went all that time with no food.
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Post by hope on Oct 6, 2020 9:15:28 GMT -6
Yes, that's a good point and makes sense. If they helped set the table they most likely ate dinner there. It is nice to see these new reports. I was always interested in seeing what the people living in the group home had to say.
The new information coming out about Dana & Sheila is interesting as well. Like wow. It could certainly change the dynamics between the kids, as well as the adults. I know you touched on this previously, but how did Johnny feel about 2 of his friends being with his sister? How did Richard feel about Dana & Sheila? Did he know about it the entire time or find out sometime afterwards? When and where was all this stuff going on? Had mama or Sue heard these rumors. Were there other people involved in these love triangles that could have had jealousy issues? How does Tina fit into all this, we've heard more than one person mention "Tina was a fast little girl". Its sad, she was just a little girl but it is obvious these kids were behaving older than their years. So many questions!
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Post by kmik on Oct 6, 2020 13:31:21 GMT -6
Yes it is nice to see these reports and although I could not understand Mike turning this stuff over to him it does answer a lot of questions that we've all had. Here's Vernal, who was supposedly a good friend of Dana's, telling this story about Dana thinking the baby might be his - and regardless of if it was or not he obviously had been with Sheila too. I wouldn't really think a lot of young guyswould want to be the father to anyone's baby and Dana already had a baby with Robert P's sister (don't know if he claimed it)
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Post by kmik on Oct 12, 2020 6:42:47 GMT -6
Don't you just love the way dmac writes about LE and all that MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING he does - like gosh if he'd been there this case would have been solved - such an idiot and I sooo wish somebody would hand him a new triple murder case with one missing and let him go to REAL work. I guess since he's now been given these files and he's accused LE of being corrupt for so long he feels he's got to convince us - yet the only thing I'm convinced of is he spends way too much time trying to convince us!
Also he claims to have sat back "silently" until he got everything he needed from Blaine Gruebert. First of all he's never sat back quietly 'until the attack' on anyone - and he may feel superior to everyone on these forums but when he became acquainted with Joe Mcplumber he FINALLY met his match - no Joe's soars above D cause he doesn't have to prove anything his intelligence and quick wit are apparent in his post. It's also obvious he's publicly attacking these people in the hopes that they will respond on his facebook or call him up and spill the beans before he spills their 40 year old interviews.
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Post by hope on Oct 12, 2020 10:23:07 GMT -6
Yes, it's like he is so deadset on being right that with every little thing he comes across his mind automatically goes to attributing it to evidence of guilt & being part of the conspiracy. No matter how more convoluted it makes the theoryor how you have to twist it to make it fit. It is one thing to be invested in a theory but it is something else entirely to attack anyone you come across discussing the case. Insulting people and claiming he solved the case back in 2011. Never come across anyone like it in any other true crime discussion groups or forums. He certainly has never held back on anyone. It seemed like his issues with Joe came after Victoria's news articles, when Joe spoke up in the comment section. Although, it was only a matter of time before he and wade made it to his list of 100 co-conspirators. I think he has met his match with Joe. Regarding the recent "proof" he has of his involvement...I would be nervous and looking for a beer too if that had just happened to an entire family I knew!
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Post by kmik on Oct 12, 2020 13:30:04 GMT -6
Yep but with Joe you can never tell if he's really on the outs with dmac or not - this could all be something they created to stir up interest - who knows
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Post by getem on Oct 12, 2020 16:12:40 GMT -6
Yes, it's like he is so deadset on being right that with every little thing he comes across his mind automatically goes to attributing it to evidence of guilt & being part of the conspiracy. No matter how more convoluted it makes the theoryor how you have to twist it to make it fit. It is one thing to be invested in a theory but it is something else entirely to attack anyone you come across discussing the case. Insulting people and claiming he solved the case back in 2011. If you look up "Dunning-Kruger effect" it has a picture of him next to it.
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Post by kmik on Oct 13, 2020 12:57:28 GMT -6
His new "wowee" moment is finding an interview with Greg where he admits he was awakened, saw John, Sue, and Dana get murdered "by three men and that Justin was there but he never saw Tina ….. that's all? That's all he said??? Nothing else?? yeah right
I wonder what day this interview was taken (maybe the week following the murders before going to Oregon) and why he didn't mention Ricky. See there's no way these boys slept through this as originally told (but we knew better). Now if Marty was so close to Sue, Johnny, and Tina wouldn't Greg have recognized him if for nothing else than for being Justin's step dad?
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Post by jmo on Oct 13, 2020 21:37:58 GMT -6
Hunderd bux to the first person that asks dmac on his fb page if MMB's still a thing. hahaha Nose goes
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Post by jmo on Oct 14, 2020 9:56:40 GMT -6
I don't think I'll mention the movie The Stangers either haha!
Would any of these groups of people trust any of the other groups of people to hold onto a secret as big as murder?
Marty, Marilyn, Bo
Sheila, Tina, Justin, Richard, all the other guys in this age group
Steve, Steve, Chuck, Blaine, Wade, Monty, all the other guys in this age group
All the girls that lived and partied in Quincy and Keddie
Might as well throw Jim Sharp in here, too.
How can a family get killed and nobody talks??? One of these groups did it unless it was a "random" crime by outsiders--people nobody knew.
Dmac is really calling Sheila names. Holy. Has he given up on MMB?
Oh, and did anyone else notice Sheila's name on the reports was spelled wrong? Incredibly sloppy but not conspiracy level, for sure.
Did I read something about black hair in the "new" information? Any one hear anything about black hair?
Excellent posts lately! Keep up the good work! Stay safe!
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Post by kmik on Oct 14, 2020 14:15:22 GMT -6
From an Interview conducted on 4-28-81 by Crim with Jan Albin: From an Interview conducted on 4-14-81 by Crim and Bradley with Marty Smart:
Jan's statement 2 weeks after her neighbor Marty's certainly didn't prove that the people in 26 knew something wasn't right in 28 - Marty had already said (as others had said) that it was dark on that street that night. It proves that Marty as well as Les noticed the street light was not on.
My question is if the Seabolt girls saw a green van around 9:30pm and were able to identify it as green then the lights were probably still on? By the time Les, Marty and other go home it's off.
JMO, I have figured out who Dmac has turned into - Glenna Meeks. He wants everyone to shut up and listen to him tell this story the way he wants to tell it - oh my gosh how many time did Glenna do that to Marilyn and others - but especially Marilyn? As for the name calling dear God how can someone who does that consider themselves even remotely human? But he appears to be the kind that's more concerned about the life of an animal than the life of a human anyway.
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Post by snoho17 on Oct 14, 2020 16:50:46 GMT -6
Holy cow, Joe mcP is still around? Was he commenting on the site or fb page?
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Post by hope on Oct 14, 2020 23:48:18 GMT -6
No, he hasn't been commenting...he's apparently made it to 28's list of people involved.
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Post by kmik on Oct 16, 2020 6:14:13 GMT -6
More info overload
*Doug Thomas used the word "suspects" so that "proves" he "knew" it was multiple killers. What?? No maybe he thought that because he had 3 dead, 3 living and 1 missing PLUS Greg saying it was 3 men and Justin saying it was 1 no 2
*Multiple people saying that type of white tape was not in 28 but in 26. I am the grocery store/drug store/any store shopper in my house and honestly don't even know if I have white tape in my house - I'd have to look. And God help us if any of that was from the mouth of children.
*Randy S said he heard Tina was solicitating sex. Not hard to believe for anyone who has read the molestation report.
* Doug A told Kathy A that Marty was seeing Sue. WOW I hope Kathy isn't the xxx bartender or that probably renders her story as useless. I'd be interested to know exactly when Doug (Sue's friend) told her this (before or after the murders AND before or after Meeks and Marilyn began to talk)
*Early on Blaine didn't know if Phil was with them that night or not, he fell asleep at the neighbors house and yelled 'punk' at Johnny when he saw them on Lawrence Street that night. Blaine really doesn't interest me but maybe this is wow info and I just don't see it. I thought Blaine told us that he stayed the night (next door to the Meeks at Mary Bell or Jan Stites because he was seeing one of them)not surprised he called Johnny a punk just surprised he told the police but maybe he thought somebody else might tell them so he told.
* Many reports of acid party at Walke's. Now this is interesting since we've had several say that before. So that acid party in Keddie and Chuck's party was probably "the acid party in Keddie" all along. Could explain why he and Henry were in Keddie Resort early that morning possibly dropping somebody off like "acid Steve" or trying to find "acid Steve" or looking for somebody who "stole some acid". Never wonder why timeline A was titled: LIARS, DOPERS, and PSYCHO's
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