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Post by mew1987 on Jan 24, 2022 18:24:14 GMT -6
Interesting that Dana’s blood was found under Sue as I always thought he was bludgeoned after Sue was dead I guess it could’ve always oozed through the carpet but his head was placed the other way on the cushion unless the cushion came later that could account for the boot print on it
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Post by kmik on Jan 24, 2022 19:46:53 GMT -6
It is interesting that’s why it kinda appears the boys were bleeding before Sue was attacked. Not sure what’s on the cushion but Dana was face down and bloody so it’s possible that imprint on the cushion is from the side of bloody face/head that was laying on it.
If a boot imprint was on the cushion I don’t see how it would have remained there after Dana laid on top of it but I’m just going off of the pic of the cushion laying on the floor after LE removed the cover.
I think we should also research blood patterns and try to find a better pic of the stains on the butt of his pants - I did some searching today and am more confused than before I started searching! Haha
i agree with whoever said where’s his pants and was that blood tested??
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 20:17:28 GMT -6
Kmik, we should revisit the thread you started that had the ABO blood typing identified & of which item. It's the same as you copied here, but I remember you posted this elsewhere. You have the items but perhaps if we add photos of each evidence number and the item/specific blood location it would be helpful?
Mew, I agree about the shoe prints & see several areas that look like shoe prints to me. Leading away from Johnny's head it looks like two left shoe prints, with a space in between for the right foot.
In regards to the cushion, I do believe that is a boot print on there. And is probably why PCSO took the time to photograph the cushion without the cover. It probably wasn't visible on the cover bc of the amount of blood from Dana. And perhaps the cover soaked up most of the blood. But if someone was standing on that cushion, their weight would cause the blood on the boot to imprint the pattern & remain beneath the cover. If that makes sense?
But why is there no mention of bloody footprints in any of the reports? Or close up photos. But at the same time, you can't trust that PCSO still has everything in their possession. Who knows what Josh took, never released and never returned. Mama Meeks always spoke of a "military style boot print" found at the scene. For all we know, she read that in a report that Sheila/Josh had back when they were posting. DTs files had items in it that no longer are in PCSO property supposedly - the reports mentioning Sheila's print. My guess would be they are gone because of Josh/Sheila. Not because of DT/PCSO.
It's also frustrating because where are the rest of the blood typing results? They swabbed Sue's feet, where are those results?
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 20:33:18 GMT -6
_ These are two screenshots from a photo shown in the documentary & the questionable shoe prints, leading away from John's head towards the front door. Next to Johnny's right shoulder, IMO, looks like someone was standing there and the blood pooled around their foot/boots. You can almost make out the treads of a boot sole. I will add a photo that is closer and the pics of the cushion with & without the cushion to help us compare. As Kmik & Karis pointed out before, what is underneath Johnny? A pillow? Also, what is up with the white rag seen underneath Dana in some the photos?
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 21:15:29 GMT -6
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Post by mew1987 on Jan 24, 2022 21:26:58 GMT -6
_<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> These are two screenshots from a photo shown in the documentary & the questionable shoe prints, leading away from his head towards the front door. Next to Johnny's right shoulder, IMO, looks like someone was standing there and the blood pooled around their foot/boots. You can almost make out the treads of a boot sole. I will add a photo that is closer and the pics of the cushion with & without the cushion to help us compare. Also, what is up with the white rag seen underneath Dana in some the photos? I’ve obviously missed something here, what rag? ive seen that last photo many time (am I missing a rag?) and I’ve even posted it myself. But I’ve only just noticed unlike photos of Sue and Johnny, In some cases they’ve even gone as far as to completely colour over Johnny’s body (my guess is because he was under the age of 16) but Dana’s face is not blurred out. You can make out the injuries to his face (the split lip leading up to his nose and the blood on his jaw/cheek area that looks to have come down from his ear)
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 22:08:48 GMT -6
The rag is barely visible underneath Dana's head in those pics. You can just see little bit of it sticking out. It can be seen in this photo after the victims were removed. And I think I must have missed something too. I never noticed what you mentioned in the pics of Dana. I believe it was Josh who blurred and colored those photos. Blurred them for the documentary but colored over them when posted to his forum .
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 22:18:28 GMT -6
Nvmd, I saw. They probably didn't realize & that's why it wasn't blurred. In some of the other photos the side facing towards Sue is blurred.
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Post by kmik on Jan 24, 2022 22:19:33 GMT -6
Hope are you talking about on top of the cushion? Is that where they cut out a section of the cushion cover? I do agree it looks like shoe/foot prints on the floor.
I've always thought the "boot print" came from one of Justin's hypno sessions with DT:
Maybe they did have a boot print at the scene or maybe they started looking at the possibly after Justin told that in his interview? Either way it's interesting!! And yes Hope I'd love to put a pic beside the evidence where a blood type is known.
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 22:23:48 GMT -6
And the way they were asking Marilyn if Bo owned boots. Sounded as if they did find boot prints.
Yeah, on the cushion that was on the floor. The pic when the cover is off of it. Let bump the pics over here
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Post by hope on Jan 24, 2022 22:30:25 GMT -6
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Post by mew1987 on Jan 25, 2022 0:35:05 GMT -6
I marked circles around the ones I thought could be possible footprints/boot prints some seem smaller than others
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Post by hope on Jan 25, 2022 4:11:21 GMT -6
I agree Mew, some of them do look small.
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Post by snoho17 on Jun 14, 2022 1:49:11 GMT -6
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Post by Admin Horan on Jun 14, 2022 7:56:39 GMT -6
And the obvious shoe print circled in blue on the far right picture of the white slab of foam cushion is obviously a Great American Shoe Store shoe. Just like Tina's pair that she wore out of the cabin.
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