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Post by marionumber1 on Jun 1, 2021 21:21:25 GMT -6
Manny Grossman and his research team have recently connected some very interesting dots with respect to the Son of Sam case: While looking into the Carr family background, they found that Sam Carr's sister Pauline married into the family of one Dr. Robert Onorato, a Yonkers doctor who headed the group Catholics for Latin America. CFLA sent missionaries down to various Latin American countries and also untraceably brought children from those countries back to the US; in other words, it fits the profile of an intelligence front that may have been involved in child trafficking. Then it turns out that Maury Terry had independently had his eye on CFLA, due to its close proximity to the site where John Paul Ranieri said he dumped two murdered children's bodies. Here is Ranieri's account (from p.1062 of the 1999 edition of TUE): Based on Dr. Onorato being a seemingly well-connected Yonkers doctor, the dump site as described by Ranieri being just across the street from such a doctor's property, and Maury's description of the dump site being extremely close to CFLA, it seems quite likely that the doctor in question was in fact Dr. Robert Onorato himself. That said, it would be hard to prove without obtaining copies of the address book seized from Berkowitz's apartment. In terms of being an intelligence front: CFLA has all the standard messaging ( New York Daily News, "LI Students' Vacation: Helping Argentine Poor", 1964/03/01) about fighting "atheistic, Communistic teachings", which tends to be CIA code for any Latin American government not compliant to corporate America's interests. And depending on the account you read, its founder was either Cardinal Francis Spellman (see page 12 of religiousfreedomandbusiness.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/G20-2018-Delegate-Directory.pdf) or a protege of Spellman named Robert Dwyer who was mentioned in that New York Daily News article as a leading longtime CLFA member ( argentinasalvajizada.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/puja-salarial-inflacionaria/). Either way, Cardinal Spellman's influence certainly appears to be right there in the background. Spellman, the Archbishop of New York from 1939-67, was one of the most powerful Catholics in the United States. He was, for instance, such a pivotal figure beyond the Vietnam War that some referred to it as "Spelly's war". It might not be a surprise that he was in the social circle of Roy Cohn, the sleazy NYC lawyer (whose clients included mob bosses, Donald Trump, and ritual murder suspect Andrew Crispo) involved in running a pedophilic blackmail ring, at whose Greenwich CT home Berkowitz claimed to have attended a party. Nor would it be a surprise that John Paul Ranieri claimed Spellman was one of the many elite pedophiles to whom this cult/mafia pedophile ring prostituted him out ( p.95-96 of Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution by David Carter (2004)):
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Post by Admin Horan on Jun 2, 2021 7:18:33 GMT -6
Intelligence? Maybe. But if they can bring back people--of any size--across the border, then they can bring cocaine. And deliver money. They'd HAVE to deliver money to pay for the kids.
"Fighting the commies" was cover for "set up new Nazi dictatorships" in Spanish speaking countries like Argentina. In fact, "Operation Condor" was a long-term--very long term--program dating back to the Spanish Civil War. Most people think of volunteer Luftwaffe pilots in the "Condor Legion," but that was only a PART of "Condor." Just like the "Flying Tigers" were a PART of US efforts to prop up a COMMUNIST faction in the Chinese Civil War--Chiang Kai Shek's Kuomintang was just as "communist" as the Chinese Communist Party. But--the CCP was eradicating the opium market in China, and Chiang not only defended it, he used it to finance his fabulously incompetent military campaign. That's how he won the backing of the US government. Not because he was anticommunist. Because he kept the opium trade going.
What does that have to do with Sam Carr? Well, if he had neo-Nazi buddies like Fred Cowan...and if NASA and Lockheed were staffed and led by paperclipped Nazis...and if paperclipped Nazis like Reinhard Gehlen...
Speaking of which, you never heard of Emil Augsburg. He was another professor of mass psychology/propaganda a la Josef Geobbels who worked at the Wannsee Institute (an SS think tank) and was paperclipped due to his expertise on Soviet media. I mention it, because these "cases," from "Zodiac" to "Son of Sam" and beyond, are as much about media campaigns as about dead bodies. And may be as much about the real "Operation Condor" as they are about "Satanic cults."
All across Latin America in the post-WWII years, right-wing neo Nazi governments (Adolf Galland, the Luftwaffe's top fighter wing commander, created and commanded Argentina's air force) launched "anticommunist" operations which were called "Operation Condor" every time. So, what? Well...what about the US? Was there an Odessa-led attempt at an Operation Condor in the good ol' US of A? Why wouldn't there be?
And why wouldn't they have the backing of rabid anti-commies (often an excuse to be anti-FDR and anti-New Deal) in the US "government" like J Edgar Hoover, Averill Harriman, George Kennan, James Forrestal, Clark Clifford, Dean Acheson, John Foster Dulles, Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon...
Kay Griggs herself talks about a powerful clique of "German existentialists" in the US intelligence establishment. She goes on and on about her husband's cronies being deeply embedded in the US news media. She even once mentions "White Nazis...not that there's anything wrong with being a white Nazi..."
What on earth does that have to do with Holy Mother Church? Well, nobody lost more in the Russian Revolution than the Catholic Church. Later, a new generation of "priests" would back the Sandinistas, et al, but in the mid-20th Century, the Church's notto was "better dead than red." Google Franz von Papen. Google Pope Pius XII (former papal nuncio to Germany.) Google Franz Stangl.
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Post by gv889 on Jun 2, 2021 21:45:32 GMT -6
Didn't Richard Nixon refer to HR Halderman and John Ehrlichman as his German General Staff?
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Post by btaylor71 on Jul 14, 2021 13:30:21 GMT -6
The link below takes you to a few names of people that were affiliated with Catholics for Latin America. A few interesting names include Richard C. Stouffer. Employee of Bendix in the missile division. (Large military contractor.) Took his family to Brazil as a member of the organization. Also, Robert Dwyer. There is a Monsignor Michael Dwyer affiliated with CFLA in its early years. d-state-research.com/home/news-research-sites/son-of-sam-notes/
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 15, 2021 6:45:09 GMT -6
Outstanding, Taylor! Thanks!
If I'm not mistaken, CFLA was the new, public name of the Catholic "rat line" that smuggled escaped You-Know-Whatzis out of Europe and into Latin America.
To make a loooooooooooooooooooooong story short (for now,) it was not the entire "Catholic Church" who collaborated with the Nazis and helped some of them flee to Latin America in order to try and start a Fourth Reich. It was some secret faction within the Church. It wasn't the "Catholic Church" who helped launder all that stolen money, gold, and art. It was a secret faction within the Church. That secret faction was embodied in a secret, outlier lodge of the Freemasons called "Propaganda Due," or "P2" for short. The mob (literally, Sicilian mafiosi) who ran the Vatican Bank were all P2.
Help yourself to a pumpkin sticker, and keep up the good work!
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 15, 2021 10:19:00 GMT -6
By the way, in the article about the Falls going to Chile, the description of their work--"helping the poor help themselves become less poor, and teaching the rich to be more aware of the needs of the poor" is a perfect translation of the stated goals of the KDF, "Kampf durch Freude," tr. "Strength through Joy" campaign of the National Socialist German Workers Party.
And missile engineers? What a coincidence! First, paperclipped Nazis are infiltrated into corporations like Lockheed and Bendix to help America develop missiles, and now, America returns the favor by sending missile engineers to do "charity" work in the capital of the Fourth Reich! If y'all ain't never watched these podcast episodes on JonBenet, you might see MORE "coincidences:"
I don't get into the Lockheed thing until a couple of episodes later in the playlist (and there is a LOT more to come!) but you probably want to watch all the episodes in order whilst (snicker) you're at it.
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Post by btaylor71 on Jul 20, 2021 6:33:37 GMT -6
A few more items about Catholics for Latin America (CFLA) - mostly speculative. (Part 1.) It seems pretty likely that CFLA had connections to the Intelligence agencies and by proxy, Wealthy Elite social circles. The Stouffer fellow who worked for Bendix missile division in Indiana looks interesting. (See Son-of-Sam Notes) Above. Bendix was founded in the 1920s. The company made car parts, military equipment and it held the license for one of the first clothes washing machines for home use. The ownership of Bendix Washing Machines is not all that clear before WWII. (It looks like Bendix Corp. owned 25% of Bendix Washing Machine. Not too important for now.) Here is where things go way to deep. (I'm just throwing this out there for now.) At one point in the 30s or 40s, a gentlemen by the name of Joe I. Lubin acquired a holding company called Phoenix Securities. Phoenix owned a few different companies (or large stakes) including Whelan Cigar, Pepsi (before it became much larger) and Bendix Washing Machine. Joe I. Lubin was a successful public accountant based in NYC. He eventually sold Bendix Washing Machine, Whelan Cigar, other holdings, and invested the funds back in Pepsi (making it a household name.) He also personally bought much of the land around the area of NYC where the UN campus would eventually be built. Joe Lubin needs more research. However, we do know that he had a daughter. The daughter (Barbara (Lubin) Goldsmith was a successful magazine editor and author in the 70s and 80s. She also married (and eventually divorced) a guy named Frank Perry Jr. Frank Perry was a successful Hollywood Director (his most well known Movie he directed was "Mommy Dearest.) Frank Perry (died 1995) was also the uncle of Pop Star Katy Perry. I always figured that Katy Perry's "Illuminati" imagery was for show and sort of pop culture Illuminati fun. It turns out, Katy Perry is related to another person who likely had real Illuminati ("Rothschild" is probably a better way to describe all of this Illuminati talk. The word "Illuminati" can make the connections look kind of childish or uninformed in my opinion.) The other "Illuminati" (Rothschild) connection to Katy Perry is her great-uncle, Charles M. Schwab. Charles M. Schwab was the founder of US Steel. He was one of the richest men in the world in the 1900s. He formed US Steel by buying up a bunch of smaller Steel companies with money provided by JP Morgan. JP Morgan was an agent bank of the Rothschilds. The link below goes into more about Katy Perry's. d-state-research.com/home/katy-perry-for-example-rewarding-the-robber-barons-relatives/
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Post by btaylor71 on Jul 20, 2021 7:14:29 GMT -6
A few more items about Catholics for Latin America (CFLA) - mostly speculative. (Part 2.) The CFLA looks like one of many religious Charities that was a CIA front. Another group that did work in Latin America in the 1980s was the "Quixote Center." The Quixote Center was formed by a priest (William Reed Callahan) who advocated for gay marriages and marriage for priests in general. (He was eventually defrocked.) The Quixote Center took on a lot of left wing causes. In the 80s, they sent volunteers (missionaries) to Nicaragua to provide humanitarian aid to the Sandinistas (the Left wing, as opposed to the Contras, the Right Wing.) One of the "humanitarians" was Warren Wilhelm Jr. He is better known as NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio these days. Mayor Deblasio uses his mother's maiden name (she was Maria DeBlasio.) Deblasio comes from a very CIA family (mom, dad, uncle all CIA.) I have been looking for connections between the CFLA and the Quixote Center. A few reason their might be some connections. >William P. Restivo of the CFLA was a defrocked priest and formed an organization that helped other defrocked Priests get back to a non-priestly life. (Callahan of Quixote Center and Restivo of the CFLA had to had crossed paths given the similarity of their missions in dealing with ex-priests. [Also guessing some priests that Restivo was trying to help were told to leave the priesthood.]) >Quixote and CFLA both did work in Latin America. >I find the Italian family names DeBlasio and Onorato interesting. The two families seem to be upper-middle-class rather than recently emigrated working class families (like my own) that made up the bulk of Italian families in NYC area. (Thinking that a small circle of well-off professional Italians may have socialized.) >Maria DeBlasio graduated (about 1938 I believe) from A.B. Davis High School in Mount Vernon, New York. Mt. Vernon border Yonkers to the west. More about DeBlasio Family. d-state-research.com/home/back-to-wwi-with-the-bill-deblasio-aka-warren-wilhelm-jr-family-and-those-belgium-raping-gorilla-huns/
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 20, 2021 22:23:58 GMT -6
I'm not following the logic, here...DeBlasio is a commie (he IS a commie, BTW) and therefore, he's CIA?
But his parents, as FDR commies typing away on the propaganda machine, on the other hand, ARE interesting...and his mother ended up working in the Italian consulate in NYC. That's usually an intel station chief for whatever country has a consulate there. Funny, because she may have been spying more or less on behalf of the Red Brigade or someone.
In any case, there is no way she didn't know Colby. No way. And maybe Colonel Paul Tate? Just who arranged for Tate's transfer to Italy at the time he was using his daughter as a honey pot to draw princely Arab flies into the web of Hatami's flash camera? With whom does one make various arrangements for diplomatically sensitive VIPs traveling to Italy, if not the Italian consul general in NYC? Not to mention, or perhaps it does bear mentioning, Deblasio's uncle was, IIRC, Shah Pahlavi's official biographer.
With that kind of luck, you'd think he was Irish.
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Post by btaylor71 on Jul 21, 2021 7:43:45 GMT -6
I'm not following the logic, here...DeBlasio is a commie (he IS a commie, BTW) and therefore, he's CIA?
Not to get too deep in the weeds as far as DeBelasio's political leanings, my point was that he is CIA. Whether his politics lean Communist or Facist, whatever he was doing in Nicaragua may have been for the CIA. The CIA certainly knows how to play both sides. (ie. simultaneously support Contras and Sandinistas.)
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 21, 2021 12:48:03 GMT -6
Oh. I see.
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