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Post by Omega on Mar 27, 2020 14:46:38 GMT -6
I caught a promo recently that HBO will be doing a 5-part documentary series on the Atlanta child murders that happened in 1979 (see the HBO trailer below). The series is scheduled to start airing on HBO on April 5th.
This was supposedly where the Process moved to after the Son of Sam attacks ceased with Berkowitz's arrest in August 1977.
Personally, I always felt it was overreach by Maury and others to connect the dots and keep the story going (I felt "The Ultimate Evil" was strong enough with the Son of Sam aspects and lost the average reader with trying too hard to connect these dots to other places)
HBO trailer:
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Post by marionumber1 on Mar 28, 2020 9:44:56 GMT -6
That claim about the Process Church moving to Atlanta right before the murders began is something I could never find evidence for outside of Maruy Terry's claims. It would be interesting if anyone could find something more definitive. It certainly does appear to be the case, whether or not there's a Process connection, that the Atlanta child murders do greatly parallel what happened in the Son of Sam case: - Numerous victims were associated with regional pedophile networks run by people such as John David Wilcoxen, "Uncle" Tom Terrell, or others. One of the victims, Clifford Jones, was literally seen being strangled to death by the manager of the laundromat who was a pedophile, but police dismissed these witness accounts. All of the child murders, including the ones with compelling alternate suspects, were unofficially (he was never charged for them, but the state introduced "evidence" of certain child murders to convict him on the adult murders, and then closed all the cases after his conviction) pinned on Wayne Williams.
- There is evidence that Williams, by acting as a talent recruiter trolling the inner city for musically-gifted young people, was actually procuring kids for these pedophile networks. Oddly enough, the recording studio where he took his group, the Apogee Recording Studio, was owned by pornography kingpin Michael Thevis. And after word got out that police wanted to arrest him, he (an amateur photographer) and his father Homer Williams (a professional photographer) destroyed their photographic negatives on the grill outside; anyone's guess what kind of photographs those were. But that would just make Williams one participant in a sick network, and might explain why his fibers would be associated with so many of the victims, but would not make him the killer.
- Reasonably credible allegations of a satanic cult connection came up when Miami waitress Shirley McGill blew the whistle on her boyfriend Parnell Traham. She claimed that Traham, a former Vietnam veteran, had gotten her involved in a cult stretching from Miami to Atlanta that was involved in drug trafficking and satanic rituals, and that this cult was responsible for many of the murders. One of her claims was also that Traham, a black man, delivered some children to white men to be abused, suggesting Traham was also a procurer for these rings. Her story is bolstered by the multiple links that Traham has to the known pedophile underground that victims were connected to. Victim Timothy Hill's mother remembered seeing Traham walking through her neighborhood and visiting the local boy's club, and Hill was last seen getting into a taxi with an older man who was presumably Tom Terrell, which is interesting because Traham's job was a taxi driver. McGill also stated that Larry Hill, a pedophile associate of Tom Terrell, was part of Traham's group under a different name (once source says it was Ted Washington).
Sources for this information and more are on my website here: cavdef.org/w/index.php?title=Atlanta_child_murders But of course it's all thanks to the great work of people like Chet Dettlinger and Jeff Prugh who wrote The List.
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Post by Admin Horan on Mar 28, 2020 18:03:33 GMT -6
Thanks, guys! Keep it coming! One small point I'd make for now--just because they didn't have a storefront, a tax-exempt certificate on file at the state capital, and an ad in the yellow pages, doesn't mean The Process Church (or some former members or whatever) weren't in Atlanta. Okay, TWO small points: It ain't just the Process. They weren't too cool with black people. But [parts of] The Nation of Islam and the Black Panthers are clearly connected to SLA and Zebra Murders/Death Angels. Not to mention Malcolm X and MLK. Some NOI radicals were into the same Sufi/Thuggee/Moro stuff as other radical Muslims. (I don't mean to implicate ALL Sufis, but...)
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Post by Omega on May 5, 2020 5:54:54 GMT -6
I watched the five-part documentary on HBO on the Atlanta child murders and thought it was well done.
Not that I was expecting it, but not a peep about any cult/occult groups involved (unless you consider the Ku Klux Klan a cult)
The main similarity to the Son of Sam case, and what seems to get the older police/detectives that worked on the case to drink the Kool-Aid, is the lone suspect and the murders stop after the arrest. Of course, there's a lot of self-interest involved with that! (on both cases).
My impression is these were several different entities that committed these crimes, but were unrelated to each other. Wayne Williams is not totally innocent in this and probably did commit some of the murders himself for his own personal reasons. The other murders were pinned on him to wrap up the case whole.
I didn't see how a group like The Process would be involved or have interest, unless going down the path of wild speculation that it was to create another of Charlie's race war nonsense. It just doesn't float.
I always felt the Atlanta cases were added to "The Ultimate Evil" mix to keep the story going. Especially, coming off the heels of Son of Sam, as far as a timeline is concerned (Sam stops 1977/Atlanta starts 1979). The documentary didn't sway me in any direction otherwise.
Just my 2 cents....
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Post by marionumber1 on May 8, 2020 22:21:51 GMT -6
I don't know of any proof that the Process was connected to the Atlanta murders, but the alleged criminal enterprise that appears to have served as the background to the murders -- Parnell Traham's drug smuggling cult, and the connected Tom Terrell and Larry Hill/Larry Marshall/Ted Washington pedophile ring -- does sound a lot like the cult Berkowitz was part of, with involvement in drug running, child trafficking+pornography, and satanic rituals. An EIR story ( www.textfiles.com/occult/OTO/atlanta.txt), for whatever it's worth (grain of salt but they're one of the only to have published on this info), indeed makes reference to one murder by this cult of a young boy who was "killed because he had withheld money from the sale of drugs". It's unclear if this is one of the victims on the official list or not. Indeed, reading The List by Chet Dettlinger and Jeff Prugh is really astounding when you see the myriad ways in which the victims were linked to each other, and to underground criminal enterprises centered around sex and drugs. It certainly would all fit. Really, I would just like to know if there was any solid basis for Maury Terry claiming such a connection in his book. The little blurb in the book about his background says he investigated the Atlanta child murders but I can't find any information on what he discovered in that case.
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