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Post by amada on Nov 7, 2018 13:13:02 GMT -6
I completely agree that the letter is referring to his kids that he left behind for Marilyn. I do think that his "love" for Marilyn is borderline possessive/compulsive and I do believe he would do something irrational when it came to losing her, but still does not make him guilty of murder. It seems that Marilyn was actually the puppeteer and Marty the puppet in this relationship and since it appears she had "boyfriends" while still married to Marty. Maybe Marilyn actually hated Sue and is behind some of this? Jealousy? Wanting to frame Marty and get rid of him once and for all? She is obviously a manipulator. Anyway...just thoughts.
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Post by kmik on Oct 26, 2020 20:19:43 GMT -6
On MK forum she had photo's of the letters and the envelopes posted by Josh Hancock in 2011. One was postmarked April 27, 1981 Klamath Falls, Or, and the other was postmarked April 28, 1981 Klamath Falls, OR. In the upper corner of one of the envelopes was handwritten "poss sus". Either poor MK took down the photos at Dmac's request or he took down the photos himself. I do know when ID did their show Dmac talked her into taking down somethings (because that's what she said) on the assumption that people would be flooding her forum after the show. Don't remember anyone flooding her forum and Dmac knew that he just didn't want that info on anyone's but his own. Either way it's obvious these letters and notes were in the possession of LE all along.
The note he has displayed today sounds way too familiar to be a recent find of his. |
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Post by hope on Oct 27, 2020 18:43:33 GMT -6
That is a shame. I noticed quite a few of the links on MKs forum no longer work. I remember seeing the photographs of the letter. At least the transcription of the letter is posted here so people can read the full letter & come to their own conclusions. The "have a hot fire with the memories" is definitely familiar and has been mentioned before.
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 10:22:48 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 10:23:36 GMT -6
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Post by cassiopeia on Jun 12, 2021 17:06:40 GMT -6
Ok, I'm kind of new to this but A) Shouldn't there be some police documentation of the letters origin? B) Is it possible the letter was delivered by Keddie owners? Did Marilyn have a Keddie mail box or a p.o. box in Quincy, which would show she was lying in that case? I did just dive in to the first documentary and what set off alarm bells for me was the other letter "Bo is dead." Why would Marty feel the need to announce this lie? I believe he did this because cops can't question a dead man. And it's easier for one person to keep a story straight than 2. There's A LOT more I need to familiarize with, so I'm not saying Marty for sure did it, but this is pretty suspicious.
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Post by kmik on Jun 13, 2021 6:06:19 GMT -6
I'm sure there's some kind of documentation along with the letter. He sent this April 27/28 and she was living with Glenna/Wade and I doubt she had gone to the trouble of sitting up a change of address (but I could be wrong). I would think the letter probably went to Keddie so if she was checking her mail in Keddie everyday then Wade or Glenna should have known because she had no car.
Marty sent the postcard to Remona and Dee Lake and Marty seemed to be pretty close to them but they had already told the police that they didn't like Bo so maybe Marty sent the postcard to them because he knew they didn't like Bo and he wanted them to think that he was no longer hanging with him. If Marty wanted the police to think Bo was dead he should have sent a postcard to the police - but he didn't - he sent it to Remona and Dee. I just think he really missed his friends and Marilyn and now he had gone off with Bo to make money and Marilyn and his old buddy were shacking up and accusing him of murder.
Remember Glenna posting of how she felt sorry for him when he stood across the street making threats? Why would she say that about someone supposedly threatening her family? Remember the letter dmac posted that Marty had left Joe Armanino:
Marty left this for Joe around 10/29/81 (so doesn't appear he was ever running from LE). I believe he really missed these people, after all he had given up his family to be with Marilyn and now she was gone and was trying to turn his friends against him (and justify what she was doing with Wade) by accusing him of murder. The first year I watched Dee Lake get choked up on the documentary I thought he was hiding something but looking back I think he felt a lot of guilt for letting Remona, the Meeks, and Marilyn's opinions/accusations keep him from sticking by a friend.
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Post by raemen2 on Jun 13, 2021 7:08:54 GMT -6
Pretty sure LE didn’t need a post card from Marty to figure out if Bo was dead or alive should they be interested in contacting him.
IMO, the ‘love letter’ is a red herring. IMO, the unanswerable question is: what exactly did Marilyn want Marty to do to prove his love for her children?
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Post by kmik on Jun 13, 2021 7:41:17 GMT -6
At this point in her young life, I don't think Marilyn was concerned at all about Marty proving his love for her children and I think he had already proven his love for her by leaving his kids for her and he used that pain in the letter to try to guilt her into coming back to him. Problem is she couldn't feel his pain for giving up his kids to be with her since her kids had never lived with her full time anyway (that was normal to her) |
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Post by raemen2 on Jun 13, 2021 7:57:43 GMT -6
My thoughts are Marilyn expected Marty to keep his mouth shut about all things regarding Justin... anything before, anything the day off and anything after the murders.
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Post by hope on Jun 13, 2021 14:47:54 GMT -6
Ya know, I thought it was odd when Dee got choked up too. I never ever felt he got upset because had knowledge of or had assisted with murder. To me, it seeemed like the discussion brought up some emotional/guilty feelings he had for Marty, not over something Marty had done. But I couldn't put my finger on what it was so I let it go. So, I personally think your interpretation is spot on.
Mama Meeks was the first person to point the finger at Dee adding him to this mess. The way she spoke of him while on the forum is odd because it contradicts the relationship she had with him irl. She spoke like he was just some friend of Marty's who was capable of murder. Meanwhile, he was one of her sons best friends and the time. And...she went into business with him after the murders! Doesn't sound like she was scared of him either! Talk about throwing someone under the bus. Not to mention other people who have spoke of Dee all say the same thing, he was a nice guy who spent his life helping out vets. And enjoyed his mj : )
I definitely agree, if Mama really felt Marty killed her best friends and was a threat to her family, she wouldn't have one bone in her body that felt sorry for him.
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