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Post by karis on Oct 9, 2023 7:44:48 GMT -6
I have never believed these files should be for the public. After years of reading "speculation" from people (like myself) that were not there, we decided to try to put what we have on here (and still have many files to go.) No one knows who killed the Sharp's/Wingate. Obviously, out of all the items tested there doesn't appear to be any suspect DNA. There are files missing and if you follow the dates and page numbers of files you can clearly see that. Josh Hancock omitted what he felt would be unfavorable to the family.
Everyone of these files have been scrutinized to death. Everyone has a theory and all try to make the files fit a theory. Dmac is a prime example of this. He is extremely smart, if not he would not have everyone second guessing the police with all the "cover up" and "corruption". Way to go dmac! Turn on the police and everyone will follow.
I will say again, we do not have all the information. Please read the files and take them for what they are. Look for what has been omitted.
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Post by daniel2001 on Dec 7, 2023 16:14:05 GMT -6
I feel quite bad for being so late to this forum. I really like y'all, and even if I barely talk here (I've read everything), I really respect some of the theories and stuff you guys put together and whatnot. Sorry, not trying to ramble, this is a two month old thread, but I just wish I made it here sooner. I noticed it used to be a lot more active.
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Post by karis on Dec 22, 2023 9:00:20 GMT -6
hello Daniel! Sorry this is so late. Forums pop up that are devoted totally to the Keddie murders but they really lead nowhere because usually you have the same people that continue to dissect the same old stuff. There are people that creep these forums that know more than they say but continue to remain silent.
When looking at this case it is better to stay with what the police reports say. But then those reports have been put under a microscope by many. The truth is that those reports would stand in court today not my take on them. These reports have been out for years and no one has ever came out to say the police lied about their interview.
Josh Hancock had the best opportunity to really help with this case but he became involved with Sheila and the Meeks family that it tainted his perception of the case. Not only that he did not have all the reports at the time he was working on this. We now have more files that have been released. An example of that is what was being said about Sue at the time. Zonita Seabolt was bashed for saying Sue was not a good mother. But after some of the Doug Thomas papers were released we now no she was saying what everyone that knew Sue was saying,,,, there was trouble within that family.
I have said all of this to say, enjoy your trip "down the rabbit hole" of this case!
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Post by kmik on Dec 26, 2023 21:30:57 GMT -6
Zonita Seabolt really has been bashed for years for what she said on the documentary which is sad. But she didn't think her kids belonged at the Sharp home. In one of Sheila's statements she said that her mom had told her not to be back over at Joe Baze's house after LaRonda said he'd tried to go after her. They were moms and that was their job.
Jamie may have covered Sue but we will never know unless he comes forward (maybe he already has?). But if we are basing that on the Shaver report we need to factor in that the report was written up later and that's not what he said later in his more in depth statements.
If Jamie removed the boys from their window, then looked for Sue and Tina through the girls window, then looked into the living room with Les and Doug, then walked up on the back porch through the open back porch door (maybe he could see into the kitchen from the kitchen door??) but never entered the house then what he said in the Shaver report was true- he'd already checked the rooms in the house.
I don't see anyone telling Shaver on the 12th that they saw 3 bodies - not even Sheila who knew her mom was dead by the time she was interviewed later that evening.
The Albins/Hogaboams lived mere feet from the Seabolts front door and if Zonita was in her robe I don't think she would have hung around on their porch making small talk. I bet it took her less than 2 minutes to go over there and back - and probably even less time for Doug and Les to get over to 28 to see what was going on. Jamie said in one of his statements that he was going to wait for Les and Doug but went on back over to 28 - so that let's me know he knew his mom was getting Doug and Les to come over there - she wasn't just getting someone to call LE - so why go into the house when he knew they were on their way?
As Jesse Wolfe said in an old posts - Quincy was tiny and Keddie was like a campground. These houses were very close to each other
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