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Post by anvilheadsix on Jan 20, 2022 19:06:11 GMT -6
This is a story on the murders from 2016, around the time the hammer was found. There is mention of a member of the family of John "Bo" Boubede cooperating with Gamberg/Hagwood. Does anyone know anything about this? I'm not asking anything specific about the family member for obvious reasons, but did this ever go anywhere or is this just another dead end side street?
Also, was the guy who molested Tina the year before in the trailer park (Daniel French? I think that was his name) ever really looked at as a suspect? If I were working a case with a missing kid and there was a previous incident like this, he's the first guy I would look at. I am far from being as well versed in the case, but I tend to think Tina is the focal point of the crime.
Sorry if this has already been covered. I looked around and didn't see anything but I may have missed it.
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Post by kmik on Jan 20, 2022 19:47:43 GMT -6
Welcome Anvil! I also can't help but think that Tina fits into this somehow. The family member referred to in the news story is probably a 28 forum member with the username of Princess (Deb). Bo was her great uncle and when she joined 28 in 2014 she did not think he was involved but dmac and forum members helped her see the light.
My opinion on Bo Boubede is that any connection he might possible have had to anything "mafia" related died in the 1950's when his uncle Alvin dropped dead in court. Ausgirl did a lot of research on Bo and came to the conclusion he had mafia ties (not sure how that would figure in to him lounging around on the couch of strangers and relatives - certainly the Mafia would treat their own to a bed??) and the rest is history.
Princess then took up the cause trying to find anything on Bo and in the process led everyone down a "mafia fairy tale pig trail" that they continue to travel. If she was of any real value to LE, People Magazine, or the ID Show they would have flown her to Plumas and paid for her stay and story - that (according to dmac) did not happen. As a matter of fact I think dmac (according to dmac) had to beg his money out of the show. Sheila (once again according to him) did not. So go figure whose story they wanted to hear.
The reports we have today are what Josh Hancock gathered while making the documentary and what Mike Gamberg has give to dmac. I've yet to see anything either of them really had/have on Tina. I bet they did follow up on French but LE obviously never had any evidence/DNA to link to anyone who wasn't staying in 28 that night.
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Post by hope on Jan 21, 2022 14:58:33 GMT -6
The home movie clips in that news report are so precious. The kids look absolutely adorable, Sue was a beautiful woman & they all look so happy.
I've always wondered why they mentioned a tip from Bo's family member as well. It's misleading, they make it sound like that tip led to the hammer or knife. But the hammer was found in the pond by a man with a metal detector, 1 year later he contacted Dmac about the find who put him in touch with Gamberg. The knife isn't talked about as much, but if I remember correctly, it was found buried near where the store used to be. An electrical worker that was doing line maintenance found it. It was said to have some fiber like material on it. It was buried in some sort of box which I would think should have preserved any evidence on it. I believe it was sent for testing & since we haven't heard of it since, there was most likely nothing tying it to the murders.
I agree about Tina. Taking her added a whole lotta extra risk, unnecessary risk. I'm not sure if they ever tracked down Daniel Worman-French. There are reports people suspected him and reports they were looking for him but we have never seen a report of him being questioned. A former forum member, who was a local, once said Dan French was a violent, scary man. In Tina's molestation report, she tells the lady interviewing her that he "almost" made a lady blow her head off. What is up with that?!? He is definitely someone that should have been looked at closely & unfortunately there is very little about him in the files that have been released.
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Post by anvilheadsix on Jan 21, 2022 15:43:16 GMT -6
My impression is that Bo's "Mafia" ties were a bunch of hot air. Travelling in the same circles as mafia associated types does not amount to "being connected". How much could she know about her grand uncle? I don't even know who mine is, if I even have one. I never knew the hammer was buried in a box. That raises questions.
Just from the little I know of dmac, based one interaction, his online presence, and his oh so professional and mature interview on youtube, no credible law enforcement officer would be involved with him.
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Post by hope on Jan 21, 2022 16:21:23 GMT -6
Anvil you summed things up perfectly in that post. Perfectly. I got the impression Princess didn't know her Great Uncle Bo at all, but rather she believed the "evidence" produced on the forum. Other relatives of Bo's had also posted on old forums. Relatives who actually knew him & shared memories of him. They said he would never hurt a woman and most definitely would never hurt a child. They also said he was always well dressed, suits & dress shoes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Princess herself speak of Bo showing up at her parents house, in the 80's when she was a young girl, and it sounded like it was one of the only times she'd interacted with him.
One of Bo's other relatives participated in a chat years ago and answered questions. Somehow the forum members came out of that chat excited, saying this relative confirmed that Bo could be responsible. But that was not what they said. They reiterated that Bo would never hurt a woman or child, would *maybe consider itvif the victims had been men, that Bo was a scammer, "why go to work when all you have to do is pick up a phone", was one of his favorite lines, & he did dabble with or smoke weed, had it mailed to the relatives house while he was staying there. If you're interested in reading that old chat I can copy it here.
And just to clarify, it was the knife that was inside a box found buried. The hammer was in the pond. Also, a firing pin from an A-15 was also found by the detectorist & thrown back in the pond. PCSO were unable to find the firing pin when they searched the pond. And I guess were unable to tie an AR-15 into the murders 🤣
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 21, 2022 17:05:30 GMT -6
" Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Princess herself speak of Bo showing up at her parents house, in the 80's when she was a young girl, and it sounded like it was one of the only times she'd interacted with him.". Correct, I believe she was 7 or 8 at the time, Bo brought Marde with. She had total recall 30+ years later of her impression/exchanges with Marde. From when she was 7.
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Post by kmik on Jan 22, 2022 12:36:06 GMT -6
That's exactly how I remember it Snoho
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Post by anvilheadsix on Jan 27, 2022 14:45:54 GMT -6
Thank you all. I assumed this was another dead end but you never know with this case.
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 27, 2022 15:24:10 GMT -6
'You never know with this case" Should be our tagline! Any and all angles are worth running down to the end. We never set out to exonerate Bo or Marty, we just moved on. Anything new that pops up always deserves attention, anything old deserves to be reconsidered. Bringing up stuff that's been gone over isn't a crime, and gets my brain looking at things in a new light, so please do!
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