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Tina
Jul 8, 2021 14:52:15 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 8, 2021 14:52:15 GMT -6
So many things said, so little actually known. One of the things said over the years was Tina being pregnant. I could swear I've heard of at least 3 potential fathers. I can only think of two at the moment. One being marde and we know where that came about. The other I recall is Wade. Now I have no idea where this came from. I don't think it was reported by anybody. Now sheila said she knows for a fact Tina couldn't have been pregnant. I assume many people thought this meant Tina had yet to start menstruating. But girls can absolutely and have become pregnant prior to starting they're periods (also I've never seen it mentioned whether or not Tinahad in fact started menstruating). So there is only one way to know "for a fact" that Tina was not pregnant. There appears, too me anyway, to be some scrambling to get ahead of the story to throw marde under the bus for this as well, why? My thought is whether or not Tina was pregnant, somebody thought it was possible. Maybe someone who knew Tina's body wasn't hidden as well as it should have been. Someone believed Tina could be found in tact and needed to jump ahead of the story and put marde on the radar. The problem is, even back then marde was being given 700 different motives in the race to implicate him, muddying the waters from day 2. Number one rule for lies and conspiracies is KISS, and boy was it broken!
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Tina
Jul 9, 2021 11:28:46 GMT -6
Post by hope on Jul 9, 2021 11:28:46 GMT -6
Well said. Yes, she could have become pregnant at her age, even if she hadn't started her cycle.
And it appears Hagwood agrees with you based on his ABC10 interview. And that wasn't the first time he alluded to something pertaining to Tina.
The thing is, spreading rumors that a 12 year girl was pregnant is a strange thing to do. Most people wouldn't even consider such things about a 12 year old. It gives the impression that people were aware of things involving Tina that would put her in a position to become pregnant. Or, as you mentioned, had first hand knowledge & was worried it was a possibility. It does seem as if someone was trying to get a jump on the story. That or trying to aim suspicion towards a possible motive/target and away from the real reason for the murders.
Kathy Beckley appears to have started that rumor which I find very suspicious. And she claimed to have heard it from several people including a health dept worker & shanks. Everyone denied being the source of this. So what really happened?? Did Beckley just straight start the rumor? Or did perhaps Shanks visit the Health Dept questioning if Tina had been there/possibly pregnant, then the story got out?
Either way she was the one spreading the rumor. Why would a grown woman be gossiping that Tina was pregnant? I'm telling you, my gut tells me it was because she was trying her hardest to draw suspicion elsewhere. She made up several other stories that appear to have the same intention.
The funny thing is, at some point all her stories change to now include Marty. Xxx bartender did the same thing. I'm at the point where anyone pointing at Marty is suspect and I believe they are trying to deflect from what they really know. He and Bo were the perfect pair to blame seeing they had left the area and weren't around to defend themselves. The Meeks & Marilyn started pointing the finger at them and I believe once Kathy & cj heard what was being said they decided to jump on the bandwagon and change their stories to involve Marty. Trying to keep suspicion away from themselves.
This is so true. It always seemed weird how little reports mentioned Tina. This is hard to say, she was just a little girl, but I feel like LE held back the reports on Tina because they wanted to protect her image. We have since seen the few snippets about her from the newer files. Whether LE kept them from Josh or Josh did obtain and chose not to post them because of some of the things mentioned within them. Again, it's hard to talk about but important to figuring out the truth.
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Tina
Jul 9, 2021 14:41:34 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 9, 2021 14:41:34 GMT -6
I'll have to watch it! I've skipped news reports because I felt like they kept rehashing the same tired theory, maybe I've been missing out. I think it's entirely possible Tina was taken to the clinic for a pregnancy test, and that's why sheila felt there was no way Tina could be pregnant. Now how did 19 yo Wade get thrown in? Where did that story originate? Was there a bigger reason Sue was visiting Nina without her daughters? Tina was desensitized to sexual encounters at a young age, just who was she propositioning?
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Tina
Jul 30, 2021 21:29:19 GMT -6
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Post by cassiopeia on Jul 30, 2021 21:29:19 GMT -6
Even if bexley is suspect, if the rumor did come from the clinic, Tina was probably being tested pregnancy or stds:( poor little girl. So Wade was accused of impregnating Tina and he was sleeping with her neighbor? Interesting
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Tina
Oct 8, 2021 22:31:43 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Oct 8, 2021 22:31:43 GMT -6
Tina, for the last week I've been trying to think of how to articulate something sticky for me, I'll just drop some musings here. I feel like the wires from the bedroom are kind of glossed over except for some brief discussion about the "Tina was helping" statement from the walk through. It sounds like SOMEONE had to get down on all fours on the floor to reach behind the night stand/beds to get the cord. Unless there was a lamp I'm forgetting about, it seems like that's the accepted scenario? Whoever it was had to be familiar with the girls room and Tina's the only person that really fits. But I know Tom kept asking over and over how Justin was familiar with the room. It seems normal enough to me. Although shared, it was Tina's room and they were friends. Also Justin's story could fit, if the killers caught Tina in the hallway, then they caught her before she had a chance to view the scene in the living room. It would make more sense to drag her back to the bedroom rather than outside. However it occurred, her being prepared for removal would occur in the bedroom dead or alive. Running out the backdoor with a squirming 12 yo who could sound the alarm wouldn't be safe. In the bedroom she could be 1)killed, although for reasons already discussed, I doubt. 2)Be bound and gagged 3) Be talked to and convinced to leave quietly, especially if she hadn't actually seen anything. Or.. back to she was a willing participant.
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