Crazy Craig Question

Wait what? Craig had a girlfriend?? Did she know?? haha

No. I don't remember reading anything like that. You've been here a lot longer than me so that is possible. If you take 1 + 1 = who she would be-- it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Not many around Keddie/Quincy that would meet that description. I can't even think of any girls Craig was McLikin' on to tell you the truth.

The only one I recall reading about is a girl that went by "Silver". Does that ring a bell?

Uuuuuhhhhh, are we sure that Craig even likes girls? He definitely likes boys, but then again, he's not exactly picky, either.

Just dropping this here, if anyone can elaborate, confirm, or just b.s. Craig W. 2006 "I HAVE SAID THERE ARE MANY HOLES TO MP'S THEORY
AND STATED THAT AND THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS
THAT MAKES SENSE TOO SO WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US?

THE YELLOW HOUSE IS A FACTOR BECAUSE OF BOTH RICHARD
AND MYSELF SAYING DRUGS WERE RIPPED OFF THERE AND
ALSO THAT THE RIPOFF I DESCRIBE AND HAPPENED WAS WITH
JOHN JOHN AND DANA WHO WERE MURDERED 5 DAYS LATER...
APRIL 6TH WAS IST RIPOFF OF YELLOW HOUSE AND THE MURDERS
HAPPEN ON APRIL 11TH.

IF IT WAS JUST ME SAYING THAT IST RIPOFF HAPPEN THEN YOU MIGHT
DOUBT MY WORD AND SOME DO BUT RICHARD SAID A 2ND RIPOFF
HAPPEN WAY AFTER THE MURDERS SO THIS SORTA OF CONNECTS
THE FACTS DRUGS WERE IN THAT YELLOW HOUSE AT ONE TIME
ALREADY AND WHY NOT SOONER THAT DRUGS WERE IN THAT SAME
YELLOW HOUSE THAN THE RIPOFF RICHARD DESCRIBES... IN
6 MONTHS EARLIER THAN HIS DESCRIPTION OF THE 2ND DRUG
RIPOFF OF THE YELLOW HOUSE WAY AFTER THE MURDERS.

THE DIFFERENCE IN MP'S THEORY AND THE IST DRUG RIP OFF
TIMELINE IS REALLY SWITCHING THE TWO RIPOFFS AROUND
IN MP'S- THE YELLOW HOUSE RIPOFF COMING IST (APRIL 6TH)
AND THEN THE CAR LOAD THE NIGHT OF THE MURDERS (APRIL
11TH)..THE ORIGINAL DRUG RIPOFF TIMELINE IS THE CAR LOAD
OF DRUGS WAS RIPPED OFF FIRST AT A UNKNOWN TIME AND DATE
AND THEN THE YELLOW HOUSE DRUG RIPOFF HAPPEN ON APRIL 6TH.

BOTH HAVE GOOD REASONS TO BELIEVE THEM AND BOTH HAVE
HOLES THAT MAKE IT NOT SO EASY TO BELIEVE AND NEEDS TO
BE EXPLAINED.

SO AGAIN WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US...JUST ONE YELLOW
HOUSE THAT FITS IT ALL AND STILL AN UNDETERMINED TIMELINE
OF EVENTS.

You know what's funny? It all fits. Just because it all fits, doesn't automatically mean it's true. But it all fits.

1. Saturday morning, Johnny and Dana are on the East Side, near the "Yellow House," where 10 sheets of blotter acid are rumored to have been stolen that week[end.] Sheila talks to Alice Thompson (Henry's little sister) about various party plans for that night. 20-30 minutes later, Johnny and Dana get a ride to the Exxon station, where Henry (and presumably Chuck) juuuuuuuust happens to be. Chuck and Henry drive four hours to Livermore where they trade the acid for some coke, and drive four hours back to Quincy, where they arrive back at the Exxon about 9:15pm (it's 8 hours to Livermore and back, plus 30 minutes at the ex-girlfriend's house, adds up to about 9:15-9:30) where Johnny and Dana are hanging around WAITING FOR SOMEBODY, and if not C and H, then who? In the meantime, Wade Meeks has dropped off Chief with Johnny and Dana and arrives home at 9:00ish and at 9:05ish his mother phones Sue to let her know that Johnny is on his way home soon with Dana.

2. Chuck, Henry, Chief, Johnny, and Dana drive out to Tom Schultz's cabin, which is across the backyard from Cabin 28. A fabled "coke party" ensues, pooooooossibly with Sheila and Alyssa in attendance. Coked up and paranoid, someone gets the idea Dana is wearing a "wire" (and maybe he was--maybe DANA is the one who BROUGHT THE WHITE MEDICAL TAPE) and so they start to work him over. Maybe it even started out as "horseplay." Somebody gets Dana in a headlock and he dies--maybe by accident, because, according the autopsy report and Stoy's notes, he was dead a couple of hours before he ended up on the floor in Cabin 28. So, by about 10:00-10:30, Dana dies, and maybe a half hour goes by before anyone notices. Johnny gets upset, and someone cold-cocks him upside the head, over the left ear, with a baseball bat. Ooooorrrrr, maybe JOHNNY got Dana in the headlock (Gamberg personally bragged to me that he had been teaching that kind of stuff to Johnny and Dana) and someone had to hit him with the baseball bat to get him to stop. Or whatever. Johnny's not dead, but according the autopsy, he would have died of that injury in a few hours.

3. What the hell do Tom, Chuck, Henry, and whoever, do NOW? They can't call the cops. They can't leave the bodies in Tom's living room. They do something really, REALLy smart. Instead of dumping the boys in the woods, which will prompt a massive search for the crime scene, they MOVE THE CRIME SCENE. Take the boys to Cabin 28, and make it look like the whole thing went down THERE. Brilliant, really.

4. Chuck and Henry, who do physical labor for a living, carry the two boys (who way less than 135 pounds each) across the back yard and do something not quite so brilliant--they carry them through the back door of Cabin 28 into the living room, instead of into the basement. Was the basement door locked? (They may have come in through the front door, and gone out the back, but I think they came in the back door, and went out the front.) It would only take three or four minutes to set up the scene in the living room, but after Chuck, who knew all about killing and dressing deer (there's a photo of him doing it) had finished "bleeding out" Johnny on the floor, and after they got Dana laid out on the floor with HIS head on the cushion, just about ready to stab HIM in the throat and get the hell out, Sue walked out of the bedroom, and they had to deal with her. So they beat her up with the BB gun and tie her up and gag her. But they hesitated to kill her. In fact, Sue was probably killed AFTER they left. They told Tina, "You come with us, and we won't have to kill your mother and little brothers." They told the boys, "Keep your mouths shut, and tell your mother to keep her mouth shut, and Tina will be okay."

5. After they leave, Justin, "sleepwalking" on one of Bo's pills stolen from where Marty kept them stashed, stabbed Sue and used the hammer on Johnny and Dana's heads. (The weapons used by Chuck and Henry, the baseball bat, the "narrow blade" like the pair of scissors Chief mentioned, and the BB gun, they took with them. The hammer and the butcher knife used to stab Sue in the chest were still in Cabin 28. So, I think it's prrroooooobable someone else finished off Sue after the people who finished off J and D had already left. But maybe not. Maybe they "planned" to leave "some/enough" weapons in the house, the ones that came from there, and only take the ones THEY brought into Cabin 28 with them...) They take Tina out to the campgrounds north of "Camp 18" and while they're gone she runs off and dies of exposure. When they come back and find her gone, they can't report that. Can they?

6. And you know what else is funny? The cabin Chief describes in his confession to police CAN'T be 28. But it fits Tom Schultz's cabin to a T. And everything else about his story fits. Except he lies to cover for Wade and probably for Sheila.

It all fits.

So I went back through statements and tried to get info on "possibly connected" murders. It's funny the HAs were brought up, one case in Oregon LE looked into was a hit on a family in a rural area. A friend sleeping over (wrong place/time) was shot first. Then the mother was held back as her 6yo twin girls were shot. I mentioned before, I think sue was held by her arms from behind at some point, either as restraint or being pulled back away from Johnny's body.