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Dana
Aug 7, 2021 17:04:43 GMT -6
Post by snoho17 on Aug 7, 2021 17:04:43 GMT -6
Just a place to drop all things Dana. I've known diabetics who've used both marijuana and alcohol. I wouldn't be surprised if Dana partook. We have Justins statement of Dana "acting drunk" . an earlier account from Steve D states," @ 9pm Steve D. picks up Johnny (and Dana)at the Exxon station and drives to the park near the airport looking for a party. Dana appeared to be drunk and told Steve he had been drinking something other than beer. Johnny, Dana and Steve drove through the park, but did not see any parties. Steve dropped them back off at the Exxon @ 9:30". I find this interesting because the diabetics I've known to drink usually stuck with vodka or tequila and stayed away from beer. If Dana had been drinking, what are the chances he got it from maybe an older female friend?
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Dana
Aug 9, 2021 12:00:18 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2021 12:00:18 GMT -6
If Dana was insulin-dependent, could he appear intoxicated because he was experiencing low blood glucose/hypoglycemia? I've read some posts where people denied the boys using or drinking alcohol, but wondered when Dana told Steve D. that he had been drinking something other than beer if it were liquor or shroom tea.
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Dana
Aug 9, 2021 14:05:00 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 9, 2021 14:05:00 GMT -6
jsusang absolutely his insulin levels could make him appear drunk. Whats frustrating is we have NO idea what happened to his diabetic kit. No mention of it being found at the house, which generates a few theories. 1) It was one of the few Items taken from the cabin for some reason 2)It never entered the cabin because a)he left it somewhere (forgot...or meant to return?) Or he was initially attacked in another location. Theres some lonnng thoughts on all of these here, keep reading! I originally thought someone mistook it for a drug kit and stole it, but now I don't know! Could he have left it at Kathy Beckleys'? Let me know what you think!
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Dana
Aug 9, 2021 15:39:43 GMT -6
Post by hope on Aug 9, 2021 15:39:43 GMT -6
How was insulin packaged back then? A vial with syringes for the patient to draw up their doses?
If so, those empty syringes would come in handy for someone with a drug habit. And a couple of the suspects we've discussed here were known to be IV drug users.
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Dana
Aug 13, 2021 13:38:02 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 13:38:02 GMT -6
Did W. Meeks tell Marilyn he saw hypodermic needles somewhere? On the floor, in the shed at Cabin 26?
I *think* Dana probably used hypodermic needles to administer insulin.
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Dana
Aug 13, 2021 14:34:55 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 13, 2021 14:34:55 GMT -6
Yes jsusang, Dana injected. I also got interested in the statement about the needles in the basement of 26. This was never reported though and I believe was one of those things Marilyn was "reminded" about by Glenna Meeks on a forum, or possibly the documentary. At the time, I believe this was said ( along with the Hustler mags, Noose, ect.) to try to make Marde look like bad guy, like he needed help with that. But none of these things were reported to police. If memory serves, when questioned about marde, Marilynn stated that he smoked a little, drank a little, had previously used speed but never shot up. Somewhere here you'll see where I made the same connection at some point.
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Dana
Dec 28, 2021 6:06:36 GMT -6
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Post by mew1987 on Dec 28, 2021 6:06:36 GMT -6
I got a question
Why don’t we ever hear about the Wingate family? There’s plenty from Shiela and the Smartt family. Do the Wingate family not wish to get involved?
I watched (i think) the Josh Hancock doco where it briefly had Dana’s dad and I think sister and the guy who ran the group home (is that what it was called?) other than that, nothing.
We’re they excluded from the investigation or do they choose not give statements or comments
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Dana
Dec 28, 2021 19:23:26 GMT -6
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 28, 2021 19:23:26 GMT -6
Some of us have had the same q. Little has come out over the years from the wingate camp. I think partly because he was at the group home at the time. For whatever reason, I got the feeling his dad had almost a deliberate disinterest. I'd have to look back, but I believe one of the sisters has discussed the case, but not on the web. Apparently Dana would brag about all the drugs he could swipe from his parents stash. I was just about to go looking at some way back stuff, so I'll def keep an eye out!
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Dana
Dec 29, 2021 13:19:48 GMT -6
Post by hope on Dec 29, 2021 13:19:48 GMT -6
I've had the same Qs & would be very interested in hearing the Wingates thoughts, although I can understand their reluctance. Everyone who knew Dana spoke of how well liked, kind and fun he was. Plus all the girlies loved him. For the troubles he got himself into (& lots of teenagers find themselves in trouble) no one has ever had a bad story to tell about Dana.
From the documentary, I got the impression his father coped with Dana's loss by not thinking about it. Understandable. I can't imagine being in their shoes. During the documentary he spoke of how he believed the murders were result of something having to do with Sue. However, in an outtake he did discuss a drug rip off Johnny & Dana were involved in. Unfortunately, that outtake is long gone. But perhaps one day someone with an original copy of the doc will transcribe that scene.
Several forum members from long ago posted their memories of Dana as they were friends of the family or Dana himself. I always enjoyed reading those posts & wish those people would feel comfortable posting again. Although I can understand why they don't. One poster even claimed to live with one of the Wingate sisters after the murders and told quite the story.
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Dana
Jan 25, 2022 5:34:30 GMT -6
Post by mew1987 on Jan 25, 2022 5:34:30 GMT -6
In the autopsy report it states there were no needle marks in his arms, which people found strange due to he was injecting insulin due to being diabetic. However diabetics commonly inject in the abdomen as it can be less painful and easier to access other places are upper legs and butt does anyone know if these areas were checked for needle marks
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Dana
Jan 25, 2022 15:31:05 GMT -6
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Post by kmik on Jan 25, 2022 15:31:05 GMT -6
Not that I know of but good thought!
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 25, 2022 16:20:40 GMT -6
Same Q mew, Im not curious about where they DIDNT find needle marks.
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Post by anvilheadsix on Jan 27, 2022 15:20:48 GMT -6
Several forum members from long ago posted their memories of Dana as they were friends of the family or Dana himself. I always enjoyed reading those posts & wish those people would feel comfortable posting again. Although I can understand why they don't. One poster even claimed to live with one of the Wingate sisters after the murders and told quite the story. Were any of those ever archived?
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Dana
Jan 27, 2022 16:13:58 GMT -6
Post by snoho17 on Jan 27, 2022 16:13:58 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Jan 28, 2022 21:13:45 GMT -6
Here are some of those old posts about Dana. I wish more people would have shared their memories of the victims. Everyone seemed to love Dana, never saw anyone say a bad thing about him.
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