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Post by mannygrossman on May 4, 2021 10:40:31 GMT -6
The idea of Carl's shooting being one deemed necessary for iniation to the group is very interesting.Over the years this shooting and Virginia Voskerichian have been rumored to in fact been "iniation" shootings.Also adding another layer to that,both of these are in Queens,and both are the only 2 shootings alleged to have been done by women.Remember ,the letter ,telling us very specifically how the "Queens wemon are the prettiest of all".I'm picturing a 2- headed monster here,one head clearly Yonkers and the other head Queens .Possibly 2 established groups bridged together for that season of time.Each with their own agendas but here co-operating as a killing machine.Well,its a thought anyway! I even heard rumors that it's possible Wahlstrom's killing were an initiation.
Funny you mention the Queens wemon. The line I think was "The women of Queens are Z prettyest of all." Look up "Leslie Zaret" (there's the "Z") and then let's talk. As you read remember that a "hairbrush" was talked about in TUE about a murder Berkowitz witnessed. I am going to ask the Detective this weekend all about this. The connection was just made for me today by Jess D.
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Post by mike23 on May 4, 2021 10:53:10 GMT -6
Wow!I just quickly scanned that Leslie Z case.1974?Berkie tells us he met Michael Carr in 1975.So how does he witness this horrific crime?If he does ,who was he with? Didnt he also return from Army in 1974?Have to check the month he came home later.
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Post by mike23 on May 4, 2021 10:56:13 GMT -6
17 year-old Leslie found August 17 1974 .
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Post by mannygrossman on May 4, 2021 10:59:25 GMT -6
17 year-old Leslie found August 17 1974 . Good point. This was before Berkie says he met Carr. But then there's the issue of "eggs" and Berkie's long friendship with him. Perhaps Berkie wasn't truthful as to when he hooked up with these people or perhaps there is no connection at all. But definitely a good call and one that passed me by. See! That's why I need all you guys to help me out on this endeavor of mine! |
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Post by Admin Horan on May 12, 2021 19:25:01 GMT -6
BTW, I happen to be the person who suggested to Carl that maybe Rosemary deliberately set him up, and that the killers had been "saving" them a parking place. The first time he and Rosemary drove down that street, she saw their car, and the next time she came down it, they had left and driven around the block back to that intersection, letting her know the spot was open. But it was nice of him to take all the fucking credit. Talking shit about me when I'm trying to help him "solve" his case is one thing. But then turn around and fucking PLAGIARIZE me? We'll see about that.
Anyhoo, that is clearly what happened in the Suriani/Esau shooting, where the two undercover cops were holding a parking space for them. SOP mafia tactic.
Carl also told me about the shell casings. I'm glad he gave me a shoutout for keeping my fucking mouth shut about it. He didn't HAVE to come back for an ON-air interview and spill those beans on MY show. But, you know, the main thing is, he at least told the same story twice. Did he tell you about the bag of pot? Or was I supposed to keep my mouth shut about that? Did he tell you he was taking photography classes at the college? All the female victims had those nice, semiprofessional "glamour" shots. Has anybody ever found out who took them? Could have been Rodney Alcala, for all we know. Or Carl Denaro, for that matter.
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