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Post by hope on Apr 12, 2021 10:45:24 GMT -6
Boot prints on cushion
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Post by hope on Apr 12, 2021 11:07:34 GMT -6
These are screenshots from the documentary on YouTube. The item under Johnny's arm, could that be the "missing pillow" from the girls room? From the reports of LE asking how many pillows were usually on each of the beds in the girls room. Dana grabs the couch cushion & Johnny grabs a pillow to lay down on the floor, watch tv, listen to the radio, relax when they get home? As kmik & karis suggested years ago: No defensive wounds on Johnny or Dana. Only Sue had defensive wounds...was she awakened and walked out of her bedroom into the living room? I know that's been discussed here as well. Looks like another footprint in blood near Johnny. I dunno, that print looks smaller to me than the one seen in the other photo. And what is that blood stain with the 3 circles??? Barrel of the gun? I can't figure out what could have caused that blood pattern.
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Post by snoho17 on Apr 30, 2021 2:40:09 GMT -6
Was that bent knife serrated? "The right side of the scalp shows a deep irregularly outlined stellate
wound with irregular abraded edges measuring 1-1/2 inches in greatest
dimension." Also do we know John had shoes on? Autopsy report describes all their clothing, except shoes and we know, can see, Dana's but not John's.
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Post by kmik on Apr 30, 2021 5:42:50 GMT -6
You can see Johnny’s shoes in the crime scene photo on the Pt. 2 documentary.
I’d like to see a drawing of that stellate wound to better understand
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Post by hope on May 9, 2021 17:16:06 GMT -6
It does not look like the bent knife was serrated based on this pic of the knife. The pic is not the best but from what I can tell not serrated. Does serrated typically = a stellate wound? I admit I am clueless about that type of stuff. So feel free to teach me, like I'm 5 years old lol : )
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Post by snoho17 on May 11, 2021 15:04:21 GMT -6
What "evidence"? That word gets thrown around as much as the phrase "occams razor" with no real comprehension of the words. What evidence would you present to a jury? Marde went to the bar that night (fact) passing by 28. Well, that's all I got. How in the world can this be a premeditated murder? By a couple adult men? I'll jump back to the evidence list but I don't think I'll find anything that couldn't have come from 28. Please feel free to enlighten me
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Post by hope on May 11, 2021 18:37:01 GMT -6
I second that, what evidence? Circumstansial at best, and even that's a stretch. You could make a circumstantial case against half a dozen people if you wanted to. But there is zero conclusive, physical evidence tying MMB to this crime. Zero.
Lined up so nicely? All I see lined up is a convoluted mess, hearsay, people's statements & stories decades later being twisted to fit a theory. More and more people added to make said theory work, a mess.
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Post by snoho17 on May 11, 2021 20:27:01 GMT -6
The bent knife was a serrated table knife and as DMac has pointed out none of the knives from 28 had a thing to do with the fatal wounds, so try to prove no weapons were brought to 28 and premed does not exist when the weapons left behind had nothing to do with killing Sue at least. "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!" Well, nobody can account for the weapon(s) used to kill Johnny or Sue, so nobody here has a good answer for premed. Nobody here as put up a fight worthy of mention when it comes to disproving premed or proving no premed. And I don't see a way out of what killed Sue without those weapons and premed. Please try, because I don't see anything but premed. We also need to stop dismissing all the evidence against Marty just because DMac lined it up so well. You can't ignore the sun just because it's blinded you. And that's not an insult, just a figure of speech. so the butcher knife and hammer got blood on them??? How? I know,because that was part of the coverup
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Post by snoho17 on Jun 14, 2021 20:28:49 GMT -6
It does not look like the bent knife was serrated based on this pic of the knife. The pic is not the best but from what I can tell not serrated. Does serrated typically = a stellate wound? I admit I am clueless about that type of stuff. So feel free to teach me, like I'm 5 years old lol : ) View Attachment. Sorry I missed this, and I'm probably wrong here. The word "abraded" is what piqued my interest. Meaning rough edges like a serrated wound. (I'm not medical but lonngg line of family). I spoke to one of em just a bit ago and the real buzz word was the one you caught "stellate." Both words go hand in hand with blunt force trauma to the scalp. I will note that because of the skin being right over bone, what creates a blunt force "stellate" wound on the head may not create one over soft tissue. The trauma is branched more laterally. I had thought that maybe an "abraded" wound (rough edges) could be the reason a serrated knife got bent (like it hit the shallow cranium). Hmmmmmm remind me to come back to this.....maybe with a more outside help
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Post by raemen2 on Jun 15, 2021 4:41:29 GMT -6
Pathologists and forensic physicians are often asked whether a knife was serrated or not. Serration markings can sometimes be made out where a knife has been drawn over the skin surface, for example at the termination of the wound. In practice this finding is not at all a constant feature of wounds made by serrated knives – they are usually indistinguishable from wounds caused by other single-edged knives. Read more: m.forensicmed.webnode.com/wounds/sharp-force-trauma/stab-wounds/
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Post by snoho17 on Jun 15, 2021 11:08:44 GMT -6
Thanks for that raeman, I will! I'm hurrying off at the moment but, last night I went over kmiks blood evidence report while lining it up with the photos. The knife found near Johnny, the bent knife Sheila saw, the serrated knife, indicated type o blood. So yes I think it was used, just not on Dana the way I'd thought. Maybe more to come on this.....also the unidentified print in the house was on a magazine, so who knows there. The other on "the front of Sue's car". I'm thinking probably from a guy checking something out under the hood, but we know it wasn't a neighbor or boyfriend
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Post by kmik on Jun 15, 2021 18:56:29 GMT -6
Does anyone have the statement of Richard Meeks where he told what was in the tool box he gave to Johnny? He listed several things that were not at the scene and i believe one was a broken wrench. I’m trying to find to find it so I can post it - Ricky’s statement mentioned a crescent wrench being in the toolbox
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Post by hope on Jun 20, 2021 12:16:10 GMT -6
Kmik, I tried to see if I had that report saved but couldn't find it. Do you remember anything else it said? Was it a report or a typed up thing?
Raemen & Snoho, yes, please try to revisit the evidence/forensic stuff. I would love to hear what else you come up with. Or your family, snoho, if they decide to look things over. That'd be great to hear their opinions!
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Post by getem on Jun 20, 2021 19:54:56 GMT -6
I have a weird unrelated question. Where did everybody go? I used to have to scroll through all the other things unrelated to Keddie. Just curious! lol
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Post by kmik on Jun 20, 2021 20:23:00 GMT -6
I usually do too if I just scroll down recent post. Looks like the other forums took the weekend off!
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