Jon
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Post by Jon on Oct 14, 2020 12:22:50 GMT -6
Some of the names on that chart in the Mother Jones article are very interesting: particularly Daytop, which at some point merged with another drug treatment facility where a certain prominent Son of Sam suspect worked for many years (and where he initially had been a patient himself). Very interesting indeed. And thanks for providing that clue, by the way; it was enough for me to find the real name of the person you're talking about, which is quite surprisingly close to the name in the book. I think it would be instructive to follow the lineage of these drug "rehab" and youth detention facilities, since it seems like a great number of them are fronts for behavior modification/mind control experiments. My friends John Brisson (whose YouTube channel is We've Read the Documents) and Lee Veltman have been doing some great work on that in the past year. You're welcome--and thanks for the link! I'm going to check out their channel now. |
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ace
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Post by ace on Jan 10, 2021 11:06:18 GMT -6
Speaking of Process-related lit, our friend Hunter S. Thompson name-checked them in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas on page 134.
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Post by Admin Horan on Feb 20, 2021 11:35:03 GMT -6
Jebus. I need to keep up with my own website. Uuuuuuhhhh...would someone mind messaging me the "real name of the person..." etc? Even if you think I have it?
And I have started a new board for Fox Island. What a fucking horror story, but it's time to get into it. And I will check out "We've read the documents."
I'm not sure Daytop, Straight Inc, etc are "fronts for experiments." I think they're just straight up using what they already learned from MK-ULTRA etc for private gain. Jody LeCornu is the perfect example. Identify vulnerable young people and get your hooks into them, using techniques you've learned from Scientology, etc, and use them for whatever. And that's how these ringleaders met in the first place.
Keep up the good work, guys! Even if I don't always keep up!
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Post by marionumber1 on Feb 22, 2021 22:30:53 GMT -6
Professor, I've been unable to focus much on these cases for the past couple weeks, but I still have your PM from earlier this month to reply to so I will do that and include the person's name.
And you're right, "experiments" probably isn't accurate; it is more likely that these private groups like Straight Inc. are putting into practice the mind control successes which they were able to attain. I have actually long been skeptical of the idea that "mind control" was something the CIA had to try to unlock with the start of MKUltra, or that it was only done as a fearful response to the Soviets. The techniques have almost certainly existed in secret societies (/ cults) and incestuous families for a long time, with MKUltra more just a matter of consolidating and refining them. That would tend to be supported by the fact that George Estabrooks, a US intelligence operative from prior to the CIA's existence, wrote the book Hypnotism which expounded on many of the same tactics you see in contemporary trauma-based conditioning (i.e. torture) programs.
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Post by Admin Horan on Feb 23, 2021 9:56:34 GMT -6
Right. Plus, they studied Rasputin, George du Maurier (Svengali,) Mesmer, and many others.
Du Maurier had studied chemistry and medicine, including Mesmer and his disciple, Charles d'Eslon. He became acquainted with an "oculist" in Dusseldorf who tried to treat du Maurier's failing eyesight. Mesmer and d'Elson were both oculists. A commission of four of France's top scientists concluded that Mesmer and d'Elson's results were the result of what is now called, thanks to them, "the power of suggestion." Mesmer was a loyal patron of Mozart, and elements in the Magic Flute and Cosi van Tutti related to "hypnotism" were were incorporated at Mozart's suggestion, obviously originating with his friend, Mesmer.
And Hitler's handlers had obviously studied mind control. Goebbels had a PhD in it. Everyone knows the wreck of a man called Rudolf Hess who was put on trial at Nuremberg, but before 5 years of torture at the hands of the British had destroyed him, Hess was a highly intelligent (if high-strung) man who may have been the single biggest influence on Hitler, especially in convincing Hitler that he, Hitler, was destined to be the Fuhrer, instead of the flop Ludendorff. And of course, all those yogis who can will themselves to go 20 years without food...
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