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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 20, 2020 12:46:00 GMT -6
I thought about Rodney Alcala possibly being James Camaro, but it just seemed so crazy at the time. So I didn't say anything until I came across the Alcala-Manson stuff when I was trying to find evidence that he might be Camaro. I didn't find any. But it turned out he was suddenly a possible suspect--the only one with a comprehensible motive--for Tate. How crazy is THAT?
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Post by elantric on Oct 20, 2020 12:52:02 GMT -6
I thought about Rodney Alcala possibly being James Camaro, but it just seemed so crazy at the time. So I didn't say anything until I came across the Alcala-Manson stuff when I was trying to find evidence that he might be Camaro. I didn't find any. But it turned out he was suddenly a possible suspect--the only one with a comprehensible motive--for Tate. How crazy is THAT? IMHO -Rodney Alcala served wherever he was sent - and bounced between Los Angles, New York, Las Vega, Seattle, New Hampshire, Washington D.C, Texas, Mexico en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Alcala#Timeline
www.ocregister.com/2010/04/10/detectives-identify-some-who-posed-for-alcala/
RODNEY ALCALA TIMELINE
Year(s) Event or victim name Offense; offender status/location
1961–64 U.S. Army
1968 Graduated from UCLA
1968 Tali Shapiro Rape, attempted murder; pleaded guilty to assault, 1971/California
1968–71 Fugitive, student NYU Film School, camp counselor New York, New Hampshire
1971 Cornelia Crilley Murder; indicted, 2011/New York
1971–74 Incarcerated (Tali Shapiro conviction) California
1974 "Julie J." Parole violation, providing marijuana to minor; Convicted, 1974/California
1974–77 Incarcerated ("Julie J." conviction) California
1977 Ellen Hover Murder; indicted, 2011/New York
1977 Worked as Los Angeles Times typesetter California
1977 Antoinette Wittaker Murder; suspect, Washington
1977 Jill Barcomb Murder; convicted, 2010/California
1977 Questioned by FBI regarding Hover California
1977 Georgia Wixted Murder; convicted, 2010/California
1977 Pamela Jean Lambson Murder; accused, 2011/California
1977 Christine Ruth Thornton Murder; charged, 2016/Wyoming
1978 Joyce Gaunt Murder; suspect/Washington
1978 Interviewed by Hillside Strangler task force California
1978 Incarcerated (marijuana possession) California
1978 Contestant, The Dating Game California
1978 Charlotte Lamb Murder; convicted, 2010/California
1979 Jill Parenteau Murder; convicted, 2010/California
1979 Robin Samsoe Murder; convicted, 1980, 1986, 2010/California
1979 Arrested on suspicion of Samsoe murder California
1980 Conviction #1, sentenced to death for Samsoe murder California
1984 Conviction #1 overturned by California Supreme Court California
1986 Conviction #2, sentenced to death for Samsoe murder California
1994 You, the Jury Self-published book asserting innocence in Samsoe case
2001 Conviction #2 overturned by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit California
2003 DNA collected, 4 additional murders discovered California
2003 Motion to join Samsoe case with 4 others proposed; contested by Alcala California
2006 Case join granted by California Supreme Court California
2010 Conviction #3, sentenced to death for murders of Samsoe, Parenteau, Lamb, Wixted, and Barcomb California
2011 Indicted for murders of Hover, Crilley New York
2013 Pleaded guilty and sentenced to 25 years to life for murders of Hover, Crilley New York
ANOTHER TIMELINE (MUST READ LINK murderpedia.org/male.A/a/alcala-rodney.htm
year of event Event, victim name Location Alias/Note
1961-64 US Army
1968 Graduated from UCLA
1968 Tali Shapiro, age 8 Rape, Battery; Pleaded guilty to assault, 1971/California
1968-71 Fugitive (available forTate/Labianca)
1968–71 Enrolled at NYU Film School New York, NY John Berger
1970-71 Camp Counselor New Hampshire John Burger
1971 Cornelia Crilley, age 23 Murder; Suspected/New York
1971 FBI Ten Most Wanted List
1971–74 Incarcerated (Tali Shapiro conviction) California
1974 "Julie J.", age 13 Parole Violation, providing marijuana to minor; Convicted, 1974/California
1974-78 Ted Bundy Colorado/Florida/Idaho/ Oregon/Utah, etc. for time-line comparison
1974-77 Incarcerated ("Julie J." conviction) California
1975-77 Son of Sam aka David Berkowitz New York City for time-line comparison
1977 Ellen Hover Murder; Suspected/New York John Berger
1977 Worked as Los Angeles Times typesetter California
1977-78 Hillside Strangler California for time-line comparison
1977 Jill Barcomb, age 18 Murder; Convicted, 2009/California
1977 Questioned by FBI regarding Hover California Rodney Alcala, John Berger
1977 Georgia Wixted, age 27 Murder; Convicted, 2009/California
1978 interviewed as part of Hillside Strangler investigation California
1978 Incarcerated (Possession-drugs) California
1978 Contestant, The Dating Game California
1978 Charlotte Lamb, age 32 Murder; Convicted, 2009/California
1979 Jill Parenteau, age 21 Murder; Convicted, 2009/California
1979 Robin Samsoe age 12 Murder; Convicted, 1980, 1986, 2009/California
1979 Arrested on suspicion of Samsoe murder California
1980 Conviction #1, sentenced to death for Samsoe murder California
1984 Conviction #1 overturned by California Supreme Court California
1986 Conviction #2, sentenced to death for Samsoe murder California
1994 You, the Jury "True crime" book, asserting his innocence
2001 Conviction #2 overturned by 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals California
2003 DNA collected, 4 additional murders discovered California
2003 Motion to join Samsoe case with 4 others proposed; contested by Alcala California
2006 Case join granted by California Supreme Court California
2009-10 Conviction #3, sentenced to death for murders of Samsoe, Parenteau, Lamb, Wixted, and Barcomb California
The CAMARO / ALCALA connection was made here too:kidkenoma.wordpress.com/2019/01/01/update-mr-real-estate/
OTHER SERIAL KILLER TIMELINES
MUST SEE Interactive timelines www.latimes.com/projects/man-in-the-window-crime-map-golden-state-killer-serial/
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 20, 2020 13:14:25 GMT -6
"Roy Rogers and Dale Evans are my favorite stars. Next to James Camaro who is white but dresses like an Indian." Blah blah blah. Everyone assumes "like an Indian" means "like a Native American." But why would it? Why couldn't it mean like a person from India? Or a Swami or a guru or WTF ever? Rodney doesn't look all that Hispanic. I have to be crazy, right? This mug shot was taken when? Notice the embroidery on the "shirt."
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Post by elantric on Oct 20, 2020 13:42:56 GMT -6
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Post by marionumber1 on Oct 20, 2020 13:49:39 GMT -6
Alcala has the training and know how to be a paid hit man, and in my opinion that's what he was. Remember that black trucker fella who was convicted of killing the SOS cult member who moved to California? I thought Alcala did that until DNA matched the convicted offender. Anyways I've been reading the book Zebra and found a hidden gem that makes the whole operation look look like hits. There's also a similarity in the profession of a couple victims so far, maybe more since I'm not even halfway done yet. I'll fill you guys in when I'm done. I think DNA, as useful as it is to helping close old cases, sometimes misleads law enforcement into believing that once they've got a match, they've caught the sole perpetrator and can stop their investigation. Numerous murders where DNA seemingly only implicates one assailant could be group hits in which only one of the perpetrators actually left usable DNA. This is likely true in numerous cases, such as the Golden State Killer murders (though many of the supposed DNA matches there are also questionable), the Atlanta child murders (DNA did identify Wayne Williams but that doesn't take away from all of the evidence of a larger pedophile group being responsible), and the Jill Barcomb murder (in which Alcala was identified by DNA, but George Shamshak had previously confessed to it being a group effort with two other unidentified men, quite possibly his brother Sam Shamshak and Rodney Alcala). And maybe what happened to Dawn Koons is the same: Prentice Foreman took the fall because he is the one who left DNA while raping Dawn, when in fact it was a larger cult crime. Bakersfield was home to various ritual abuse allegations around this time as well as an elite pedophile group known as the Lords of Bakersfield, and Nancy Krebs's uncle Clifford Gordon "Chris" Christoff who denounced her accusations against the Whites et. al. was a sheriff's deputy in Kern County at the same time also.
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Post by elantric on Oct 20, 2020 16:03:02 GMT -6
Just one example of Secondary DNA transference from shaking officers hand near crime scene may have falsely implicated someone
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 20, 2020 16:32:18 GMT -6
Yeah. Don't get me started on "trace" evidence.
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