Post by karis on Sept 6, 2020 14:45:01 GMT -6
From Sue Sharp's autopsy report: 4-13-1981 (with Dennis Forcino present)
This autopsy was on the 13th of April. The medical examiner's job was not to worry about what the victims had been wearing. I doubt Forcino did either. He said it had the "appearance of a blue BANDANA". He didn't wash out the bandana to see what color it was because he would have destroyed the blood evidence on it. Now whether it was a blue one that was tied around Sue's mouth or a red one that should have been on Johnny's head, it surely would have been blood soaked according to the trauma to their heads. But Johnny's autopsy never mentions the red bandana. What happened to it? Did the killers take it also or was it used on Sue.
This is what was reported from dmac's trip to the Keddie room in 2016:
Even though "D" looked at photos he never made it plain what color the bandana was. The way that is worded i would think red. Afterall, Sheila said the blue one was missing.
6 -4-81 Report from Shanks (not Doug Thomas)
WHAT COLOR OF HEAD BAND DID JOHNNY USUALLY WEAR?
A: "SHEILA" - HE ALMOST ALWAYS WORE RED
Q: DO YOU KNOW WHAT COLOR HEAD BAND JOHNNY WAS WEARING ON SATURDAY?
A: "SHEILA" - RED
"RICKIE" - RED
Q: WERE THERE ANY OTHER COLOR HEAD BANDS OR BANDANA'S IN THE HOUSE?
A: "SHEILA" - YES. A DARK BLUE ONE WITH LITTLE WHITE MARKS ALL OVER IT. I LOOKED FOR IT BEFORE THAT SATURDAY, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT. I WANTED TO WEAR IT, SO I LOOKED FOR IT SEVERAL TIMES.
According to Sheila there were 2 bandana's in the house, a red and a blue one. From what I remember they were sold 2 in a pack and were not very expensive.
If Johnny was wearing a the red one and she had looked several times for the blue one that would tell me there were only 2 in the house, according to her.
Where is the conspiracy? She either had a bandana, blue or red in her mouth or she didn't. That wasn't the medical examiners job. Dennis Forcino should know the answer to that. And as far as I know, he hasn't accused anyone of lying on these reports.
Where is the red bandana and what is the importance of it? It is important because it would call into question the theory of the boys or Johnny protecting Sue and of Sue being attacked first.
What color would a red bandana look like if it were covered in blood?
GAG FROM FACE
A facial gag is present consisting of 2 portions of cloth extending
around the lower portion of the face with the anterior portions both
being in the mouth. The under portion of cloth has the appearance
of a blue bandana. The outer portion has the appearance of a nylon
female under garment. Between the two portions, in the region of the
left side of the mouth, exists multiple portions of adhesive tape.
The adhesive tape strips are approximately l/2 inch in width and are
covered with dried blood and run at roughly right angles to the facial
ligatures. The strips of adhesive are up to an estimated 8 inches in
length and 4 of these flap across the left cheek and extend between
the ligatures with tails occuring down to and below the chin in the
near midline or to the left of the midline.
A facial gag is present consisting of 2 portions of cloth extending
around the lower portion of the face with the anterior portions both
being in the mouth. The under portion of cloth has the appearance
of a blue bandana. The outer portion has the appearance of a nylon
female under garment. Between the two portions, in the region of the
left side of the mouth, exists multiple portions of adhesive tape.
The adhesive tape strips are approximately l/2 inch in width and are
covered with dried blood and run at roughly right angles to the facial
ligatures. The strips of adhesive are up to an estimated 8 inches in
length and 4 of these flap across the left cheek and extend between
the ligatures with tails occuring down to and below the chin in the
near midline or to the left of the midline.
This is what was reported from dmac's trip to the Keddie room in 2016:
May 26, 2016#1
D just spent some time in Quincy with Gamberg & Hagwood in the Keddie Room, and got a lot of new information, some of which is clarification of the gags used on Sue.
Layer 1: Her panties. The wounds on her belly indicate they were cut off of her body and stuffed into her mouth.
Later 2: Johnny's bandana. Knotted on the left side of her face and jammed in on top of the panties so her mouth was open dreadfully wide.
Layer 3:: The Tape.
Layer 4: A bra picked up from the house.
D just spent some time in Quincy with Gamberg & Hagwood in the Keddie Room, and got a lot of new information, some of which is clarification of the gags used on Sue.
Layer 1: Her panties. The wounds on her belly indicate they were cut off of her body and stuffed into her mouth.
Later 2: Johnny's bandana. Knotted on the left side of her face and jammed in on top of the panties so her mouth was open dreadfully wide.
Layer 3:: The Tape.
Layer 4: A bra picked up from the house.
6 -4-81 Report from Shanks (not Doug Thomas)
WHAT COLOR OF HEAD BAND DID JOHNNY USUALLY WEAR?
A: "SHEILA" - HE ALMOST ALWAYS WORE RED
Q: DO YOU KNOW WHAT COLOR HEAD BAND JOHNNY WAS WEARING ON SATURDAY?
A: "SHEILA" - RED
"RICKIE" - RED
Q: WERE THERE ANY OTHER COLOR HEAD BANDS OR BANDANA'S IN THE HOUSE?
A: "SHEILA" - YES. A DARK BLUE ONE WITH LITTLE WHITE MARKS ALL OVER IT. I LOOKED FOR IT BEFORE THAT SATURDAY, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT. I WANTED TO WEAR IT, SO I LOOKED FOR IT SEVERAL TIMES.
If Johnny was wearing a the red one and she had looked several times for the blue one that would tell me there were only 2 in the house, according to her.
Where is the conspiracy? She either had a bandana, blue or red in her mouth or she didn't. That wasn't the medical examiners job. Dennis Forcino should know the answer to that. And as far as I know, he hasn't accused anyone of lying on these reports.
Where is the red bandana and what is the importance of it? It is important because it would call into question the theory of the boys or Johnny protecting Sue and of Sue being attacked first.
What color would a red bandana look like if it were covered in blood?