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Post by Omega on Oct 15, 2020 12:20:34 GMT -6
Research into Frank Denaro naturally turned up the shooting of his stepson. I was reading all that stuff at the same time I was rereading TUE. While I sat around waiting to get the actual book from an associate, I re-read TUE as fast as I could, mostly looking for anything related to Arliss Perry. IIRC, it was the "hospital guy" stuff in Maury's book that first rang a bell. "Huh. Wouldn't it be wild if..." And then rechecking those lists of murders, and there were those names again. I knew the name "Denaro" sounded familiar... While we are on the subject of names in this thread, I think the name "Frank Denaro" needs to be clarified.
The claim is that Frank is Carl Denaro's stepfather, but I have stumbled upon research recently that is indicating that "Denaro" is Carl's biological father's last name (father's name is not Frank)
Unless there is some unusual occurrence or coincidence that Carl's mother eventually remarried another man named "Denaro"?
Unlike Neysa and Jerry Moskowitz or Mike Lauria, who were more out front in public and known, most parents of Son of Sam victims remained in the background and out of the public eye. I don't recall hearing much (if anything) on Carl's parents (or step parent)
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 16, 2020 6:55:13 GMT -6
Nice work. Very nice indeed.
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Post by Omega on Oct 22, 2020 14:17:15 GMT -6
After further research, here is my theory of what may have happened with the "Denaro" connections: 1) A Frank Denaro was working at Citibank in the 1970s in a high capacity. He may have, directly or indirectly and innocently, been involved or aware of something going on nefarious with Nugan Hand Bank and money laundering. Frank Denaro is NOT, repeat NOT , related to Carl Denaro in any capacity (or at least I couldn't find a connection) 2) Carl Denaro did have a stepfather. That stepfather's last name was obviously different than "Denaro". His stepfather did indeed work at Citibank. It is not known if he knew of or worked with Frank Denaro back in the day. Citibank was/is a huge employer in the NYC region with thousands of employees. The odds of a direct connection are slim. Going down the line of using Maury Terry's pseudonym approach, I will to refer to Carl's stepfather's nickname as "Russ" 3) Carl's real, biological father was not in the banking business. However, and ironically, in reality, he did share and use the same nickname as Carl's stepfather - "Russ" I think what may have happened here is a case of mistaken identity, as far as Carl Denaro is concerned. Whomever wanted to send a message to Frank Denaro at Citibank, got the family connection wrong. They may have been looking into Frank Denaro's kids and found out that a Carl Denaro has a father (really his stepfather) that works for Citibank, not realizing that Carl's stepfather's last name is NOT Denaro. To add to the confusion, when they were trying to track down the Denaro family they were looking for, both Carl's real father and stepfather used the same nickname of "Russ". They must have been like "This is got to be the right Denaro kid - his father works for Citibank and goes by the name "Russ"". WRONG! They didn't have Google and other resources back in 1976 that one has today! Just a theory to maybe clear up some of the confusion with the "Denaro" name and affiliations.
Who knows?
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 22, 2020 14:39:32 GMT -6
Possible. There are a million Denaro's and Valenti's in New York. Plenty of them are mafia. Frank J Denaro had a niiiiiiice house in Bay Shore, a couple of miles from the Amityville Horror house (I need to do an episode on THAT murder.) Several Valenti's live in that area, too, and and there is at least one Denaro-Valenti marriage there.
Speaking of mistaken identity, remember, the shooter(s) may have been after Rosemary Keenan, and Carl was just unlucky. But that's a stretch.
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Post by Omega on Oct 23, 2020 13:32:26 GMT -6
Frank J Denaro had a niiiiiiice house in Bay Shore, a couple of miles from the Amityville Horror house Off Topic....But, speaking of Bay Shore, it was the home to Ray Buckland's Witchcraft museum for years.
From Michael Aquino's "The Church of Satan" :
"While back in Kentucky I had read Lilith Sinclair’s report concerning Raymond Buckland’s Witchcraft Museum on Long Island. Now that I was in the neighborhood, I couldn’t resist seeing the place for myself. In the November-December Cloven Hoof I recounted the results of my visit:Bay Shore is a most pleasant little town, having a winding main street and residential arteries with an abundance of greenery and careful landscaping. By contrast the famous Buckland Museum was an utter shock. At 6 First Avenue is a rickety, 2-1/2 story house with a gigantic sign bearing the museum’s name hanging from the porch. Half the shingles were absent from the roof, and the yard was heaped with rubbish. The front lawn was extraordinarily ragged, and most of the grass was yellow from water-starvation - a sorry commentary concerning the “nature loving” Wiccans. A frustrated Mail Pouch Tobacco artist had inscribed MUSEUM on the porch roof for the edification of any passing pigeons.
A sign on the front door solemnly warned visitors that the museum was serious business and should not be regarded as a “fun house”. It was well that this was made clear, else we should have been misled by the souvenir counters, trinkets, and campaign buttons saying “I DID A ‘SPELL’ AT THE BUCKLAND MUSEUM”. We refrained from buying one, as Dr. Buckland was inventorying them at the time of our visit"
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 25, 2020 10:04:53 GMT -6
It's sad when Satanists schism. And then Ehrenwald had to go adding insult to injury:
Dr. Jan Ehrenwald, a psychiatrist who specializes in modern parapsychology, terms witchcraft a “Belief in having a supernatural power is part of a primitive mentality. I'm convinced it's a naive delusional system.”
Apparently, Buckland was powerless to concoct a working love potion. He was married at least three times that I know of.
Sooooooooo...it turns out that an over-active coven of "witches" (the first Gardnerian "Wiccan" coven in the US) was brewing (sorry) all kinds of trouble in and around Bay Shore in those days (ca 1962-1980s.) What a coincidence. That coven conjured up (I need help, I know) most of the founders of the other Gardnerian covens in the US. But Bay Shore was the center of gravity. And Frank J Denaro bought a house there. Hmmmmmm... And again, a LOT of Denaros and Valentis there. And suddenly, this mobster (DeFeo Sr's uncle Peter DeFeo was a bona fide caporegime in Costello's mob who helped Genovese otherthrow Costello) moves into the neighborhood and all hell breaks loose. Funny, that. FWIW, Ronald DeFeo Jr told police that his grandfather's car dealership was part of a mob solen car/auto parts/body disposal front operation. And here's something else that's interesting: Peter DeFeo came up through the mob-controlled N.Y.C. District Council of Carpenters. Their members include carpenters, dock builders--and carpet/tile/floorcovering installers.
Speaking of witch covens in Bay Shore, there is a new series of "books" coming out at this very moment: The
Bayshore Witch Legacy. I have no information.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 25, 2020 17:02:11 GMT -6
Professor. I've heard you mention the Reynolds family recently. Is Harmon G. Reynolds part of this family? I'm asking because I ran across the name in reference to him issuing life insurance to civil war soldiers who were Freemasons. These freemasonic insurance companies later evolved into the insurance companies we have today.
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Post by Jon on Oct 26, 2020 6:20:26 GMT -6
And here's something else that's interesting: Peter DeFeo came up through the mob-controlled N.Y.C. District Council of Carpenters. Their members include carpenters, dock builders--and carpet/tile/floorcovering installers. Maybe there's a Yonkers link here? Richard Goldmintz, who was at least peripherally connected to the Westchester cult via his wife Esperanza, the sister of Peter Perez, owned Crown Carpet ("We install, we deliver") on Central Park Avenue in Yonkers. |
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 27, 2020 21:54:02 GMT -6
Aha! I was beating my brains out trying to remember who that was. Yeah. Why wouldn't there be a link? In fact, it explains it perfectly.
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Post by Jon on Oct 27, 2020 22:52:04 GMT -6
Aha! I was beating my brains out trying to remember who that was. Yeah. Why wouldn't there be a link? In fact, it explains it perfectly. Goldmintz also owned a venetian blind business that operated out of the same building. Interestingly, Kelly Morrissey (who disappeared in June 1984 from Lynbrook, NY, where two other girls were murdered shortly thereafter) worked at a venetian blind store. The larger cult case is bizarre enough for this to have been more than coincidence. |
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 28, 2020 9:00:39 GMT -6
The Garment Workers BUILT Co-Op City (and other apartment buildings.) And there are other financial connections between Co-Op City and buildings like the Pratt Institute. Rosemary LaBianca's dress shop was stocked with inventory from a factory owned by the Garment Workers Union. JSYK, that union was as (if not more) mob controlled than the Teamsters or the Longshoremen. How many SOS victims and other characters worked in the garment industry? Berko worked for a HVAC installer. That's Plumbers and Steamfitters. Hollyweird was and is unionized inside and out.
This week's podcast will take a closer look at mafia links to all these cases (and more.)
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