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Post by karis on Aug 21, 2020 8:02:15 GMT -6
We have recently seen files released to dmac by Mike gamberg. How much of it is true is small compared to the story he has weaved which contains vulgar language, innuendo's, character assassination, and outright lies. This "new information" known to Gamberg could not get an arrest in the case for him so how can dmac use it? Well is sounds to me like Mike has withheld information from him that he has known all along did not fit the Marty theory or either Mike hasn't even looked at the files himself.
Fact:
Sheila's print on the lightbulb. (Documented) So what? That doesn't make her a murderer. Johnny and Dana smoked camel cigarettes. (Mike knew along those cigarettes were probably Johnny or Dana's as he let him harass Marilyn about the cigarette cigarettes she smoked. Years ago on another forum VF asked what happened to the document that said Johnny and Dana were seen at a phone booth smoking cigarettes and acting silly) Sue didn't watch her kids. (Documented) Johnny had a pellet gun according to Aunt Jackie. (Sue told her this according to her so i will assume it is true. Once again Mike knew this if he in fact read the files)
Dana thought Sheila's baby could be his. (With around 12 reports tell the same story i will assume it is true)
Blood type O and B. (Don Stoy told FRB years ago most of the blood belong to the victims) This messes up dmac's theory that all were laid out of the cushion area and killed then moved. Mike why didn't you give dmac a heads up on this information?
Doug Albins print on Sue's cigarettes. (Documented and explained) Tissue found at the store garbage bin Type O and B (imagine that) Mike has know this)
Fiction:
Don Davis hated Sue Sheila hated Sue Sheila sent Tina to her death Sheila conspired with Ms Meeks to unscrew the lightbulb so killers could kill family Police reports are lies and busy work..................................
I could go on and on but most of you have read all this. Does anyone believe Don or Sheila told anyone they hated Sue? Really? He has spun a story and everyone is soaking it up. As far as his information on Doug Thomas following this case and having files, Mike G has done the same thing! I am sick of reading "Dmac you have uncovered so much." "Dmac you have done so much for the case." All he has done, with Mike's help is murder the character of many people that have never been accused of this crime. He hasn't uncovered anything that has brought a close to this case. What he has "uncovered" has been there all along and he knows it. It has done nothing to further his Marty theory and police corruption theory. I am waiting on Victoria to write this article and see how it plays out.
I don't know who killed the victims. I have a theory but no facts to back up what i think so it is that, just a theory. With the new information about the lightbulb and the bloody tissue at the store, i am more confused than ever and i don't mind saying it. No wonder the police have still not solved it.
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Post by jmo on Aug 22, 2020 21:44:43 GMT -6
S is for spew because I totally agrre with you on this. So pi$$ed. If there were so many records of Dana thinking the baby was his, why is this just coming to light now? So f'n ashamed of Mike Gamberg. Twelve. Show me. If that's true? Cool. Show me Mike. Dmac. Kept us guessing on who the GD waitress is but you hold this little Ace In The Whole? Twelve??
So, you've proooooovvvved who the killer is. Wait. No. You prooooovvvvved who was behind it all. Sheila. What happened to Marty, Marilyn, Bo, and the neon suits and slinky dresses and the 4 kajjillion LE that covered up for um.....Marty, right?
Just so pi$$ed. I wish I had a list of the people he accused (and still accuses). He's lucky he hasn't been sued. Not saying it couldn't all come down to Sheila. Sounds like we've come full circle to Tom's #1 or #2.
Lynne pointed out that the lightbulb was ON when the pictures were taken. I thought that was a good point! Of course, Dmac came back with "LE screwed it back in" and that felt a little like a square peg in a round hole. But, why only Sheila's print if LE "screwed it back in"? Thoughts?
But, then again, there's Mike. With all the years D and Mike have been going back and forth, for Mike to sit on information, just makes me question his motives. Nah. He's a rat. Poor Dmac. Sounds like he had to quit drinking. Wonder how long it will be before Miss Vicky has had enough of her company. Nobody appreciates a dry drunk.
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Post by kmik on Aug 23, 2020 0:15:01 GMT -6
The info that the cigarette's were Dana's is a bit confusing since Dmac has accused the killers of leaving behind their smokes for years. This is from a 2016 posts after he got back from a visit with Mike and Greg in the Keddie Room:
I remember him trying to trap Marilyn (in her 2016 visit to his forum) about the cigarette's that he was so sure were Marty's. Why didn't Mike tell him he was wrong about the cigarette's? Why would he let him continue on when he knew he was wrong? Is it because Mike has never been through the files and didn't know that information himself or did he just sit on that info for 4 years without telling Dmac?? If either is true, (Dmac may pretend otherwise until he finishes giving Vickie the news article) it will not go unpunished and Mike Gamberg will find himself in the same position as the very ones he's allowed him to slander.
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Post by karis on Aug 23, 2020 1:07:55 GMT -6
Tom came on a forum and took the facts, using the police reports that we had available, and came up with a pretty good theory. A theory that answered for me why the boys didn't talk. But it wasn't or isn't a popular theory.
If dmac wants to put his "information" on his forum, that is his call. Not just anyone can get into that forum. But no, he put it out there on facebook for any and everyone to KNOW. IF that lightbulb means nothing he has slandered Sheila Sharp, and i can't understand how he gets away with it.
He doesn't intent to release the name of the person who gave the boys a ride home because it just may not be credible. He seemed to only believe it himself because Mike said it and it involved Marty seeing Sue. So he ran with it.
Back to the print on the lightbulb.
And, of course, the Big Whammy is Don rushing back to Keddie to “seize the front porch light bulb” and finding murderer Sheila Sharp’s prints on it.
If he gave a date on Don rushing back I missed that. But if the bulb wasn't taken on the morning when thy were gathering evidence, and Don "rushed back" to seize the light sometime later, then I would think he got some information that caused him to "rush" back for it. When they started questioning witnesses, several said it was unusually dark in that area that night.
What else is he sitting on? Nothing has been posted about Tina. What did the Seabolt girls say about Tina? What was Tina's blood type? Is Mike sitting on this or has dmac seen things he is not sharing? Who is Jim the ex? He says he know, but he won't tell. Why?
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Post by snoho17 on Sept 6, 2020 3:10:28 GMT -6
Dana and sheila? So there is a torrid triangle. Just wow! I always pretty much assumed the smokes belonged to the boys. Teens don't adhere to strict brand loyalty, they smoke what they can get! And ooooh someone who lived in the house touched a light bulb. I would love to see Sheilas essay. But mostly wow sheila! From her strange book,she had sex once with Richard (losing her virginity) and got pregnant. I knew she was steering a narrative. I thought it was to protect reputations
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Post by kmik on Sept 6, 2020 6:29:41 GMT -6
Snoho it all sounds overwhelming but I bet Sheila was asked about Dana and the lightbulb but we just haven't seen that. To me the cigarettes appeared to have been Dana or Johnny's because it appears one of the boys grabbed a couch cushion to set/lay on and tossed their cigarette's onto the couch to keep from crushing them (I'm female and I keep mine in my purse but my husband keeps his in his pocket and it's one of the first things he tosses out of his pocket when he comes home).
Sorry I tried to post the essay but it was too big to attach and my mind is too small to resize so I'll type it out just as it was hand printed:
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow
Yesterday... Dolls, house, hopscotch family, cats, fifth grade teacher. Scooby Doo, Little House on the Prairie, bullies, brother picking on me, lighting, growing up, nurse, marriage
Today... flute, sports, organ, cats, foster parents, brothers and sisters tapes, good books movies, Satan, lightning, real dad, going to college, my real sister found, living eternally with God.
Tomorrow... flute, mother, house wife, cats, my husband, my kids, good books, see by kid's grow up Satan, lightning, death, Being in heaven with the Lord
I will work to resize because even with the pic Josh put in the book I'm not clear on what she is answering but it seems to be her likes, disikes, and future goals?
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 18:34:07 GMT -6
Wait, what? Don rushed back for....a light bulb? Because.... sheila told him she'd touched a light bulb at her house? And he did what with it then? Loony ass story
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Post by kmik on Jan 5, 2021 19:31:56 GMT -6
From recent FB post:
Here we have the "counselor" going to PCSO per Josh Hancock's request to give the PCSO an interview on the "confession". Keep in mind Josh said in the documentary that there was never a follow up report by the DOJ so this is why he wanted the therapist to tell his story to the PCSO. MONTHS later Josh Seabold was allowed to see the follow up report by the DOJ (that Josh H. nor the therapist were aware of in 2010). I still have the archived chat where it was told that Bill Elliot was the one who said Josh Hancock did not have all the facts and Josh Hancock and his crew had a falling out with the PCSO.
So if Bill was "noting" that the report by Crim was untrue (although he never talked to Crim) then I'd assume he was saying that the "counselor's" story and Crim's report did not match up - not that he (Elliot) was declaring Crims report untrue.
"Confessions" were not real helpful in this investigations. Please remember Henry T's was dismissed by him telling LE he was tired of being called the "Keddie Machete". The "counselor" felt Marty was being truthful but so did Henry's roommate. Back to square one and the facts.
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Post by kmik on Apr 28, 2021 4:53:15 GMT -6
Recently someone asked to find any source that claims they heard/knew John or Dana would be doing a sleepover because they felt anyone who claims they knew this was lying.
1. Pat Dorris
2. Vernal Mullens
3. Robert Mannies (he did not hear this directly from J&D but he was told this by Vernal Mullens and that's how he was able to tell Richard Meeks the next morning at the Holiday Market)
5. Joey Carvalho (knew by the morning of the murders and was able to inform Richard Meeks)
5. Sheila Sharp
This is off the top of my head and may be more to add to this
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Post by kmik on Apr 28, 2021 17:54:06 GMT -6
Kathy Beckley - the most important name of all.
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Post by getem on May 4, 2021 19:19:56 GMT -6
I don't know if this the right place, but I saw a post about the light bulb. All I ever heard was the killers wore gloves. So the home owners prints were found on it but not the killers? (this is my shocked face) Just wanna smash my head reading about how a light bulb proves Sheila is a killer.
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Post by kmik on May 4, 2021 20:12:31 GMT -6
I will tell you "IF" that proves Sheila is the killer it does nothing to prove Marty Smartt's involvement. Is dmac now going to say that Kathy Beckley's gossip was actually true and Tina was pregnant by Marty? Then how will he explain why Sheila wanted Marty to kill the family because Tina was pregnant by him? Was she jealous? Was Sue, Sheila, and Tina seeing Marty - the man who didn't get along well with women? Oh my Lord they said it all when they said there's alot of possibilities - and what they didn't say is that they have yet to figure any of them out.
I bet there thinking twice about all of that ole "corruption" being the reason this case wasn't solve. There's just too many "possibilities" which is what LE has been scratching their heads over for 40 years. What's wrong with just admitting it?
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Post by hope on May 4, 2021 20:55:24 GMT -6
Haha that was great Kmik! That would tie everything together perfectly. And be about as believable as the rest of it. Thanks for making me laugh : )
You too getem, "smash my face" is right! Lol
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