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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 9, 2020 8:05:59 GMT -6
Camp Hope, up with which Dossenko is tangled, is a Boy Scouts Camp. Camp New Hope, in northwest NC, had a big scandal a few years ago, involving a pedophile employee of the camp. It's also a Boy Scouts camp. Hell, even if he has never been within 100 feet of a Boy Scout, the "music therapy" horsehockey he IS tangled up with is just as bad, if not worse. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if--
There was supposedly a "Manson II" in or connected to the SOS cult. Everyone has concluded that "Manson II" prrrooobably comes down to Bill Mentzer. But Charlie was nothing like Mentzer. I'm not saying Mentzer is innocent; I'm just saying maybe he isn't "Manson II." Based on what we now know about Dossenko, maybe HE is "Manson II."
I think maybe I will "wing" another live episode this weekend on our fascinating Mr Dossenko...
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Post by Omega on Jul 9, 2020 11:37:21 GMT -6
There was supposedly a "Manson II" in or connected to the SOS cult. Everyone has concluded that "Manson II" prrrooobably comes down to Bill Mentzer. But Charlie was nothing like Mentzer.
This thread seems to move around this board like someone in Witness Protection!
My take on "Manson II" was Maury trying too hard to the connect dots again. After all, Manson SELLS! Look at the response you got when you brought Manson into the equation on the podcasts!
The Roy Radin murder brings Mentzer into the SOS equation. Mentzer is a Californian, who fits the age group of Manson's California run. Hence, let's get Mentzer directly connected to Son of Sam.
Not buying it. Sorry.
Interviews I have heard, from people who knew Mentzer say he would never run around with guys like Manson or Berkowitz, but he was with Larry Flynt so if $$$$$$ is involved, anyone can be "friends"!
Some professional (and maybe also an occultist) was brought in to do the Christine Freund HIT - I'm just not sure it was Mentzer.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 9, 2020 12:45:01 GMT -6
Well, the weird thing is, Maury mentioned "Larry Milenko" at all--and here it turns out that Barry Dossenko might be more important than John Carr. And that Dossenko/his buddies might end up being the prime suspects in John Carr's "murder," if it was murder, which I doubt to a considerable extent. That's right, woodchuck chuckers, I'm 51-49 percent "suicide" in the John Carr death. It's clear Maury (and his publishers) did not/could not publish everything he had, for various understandable reasons, and who know, maybe not so understandable reasons. So, maybe Maury "needed" an Arthur Leigh Allen he could hang a few true things on, and that ended up being Bill Mentzer. The Mentzer Brothers seem to be a very solid link to the world of porno, but where's the Minot link to kooky (and worse) Californication New Age crap? Barry Dossenko. Did Mentzer do Freund or any others? Mebbe. But Dossenko KNEW John Carr. Very well. If John Carr, via whoever, needed to rub out a Wall Street twist, who would get THAT call? Mentzer? Or Dossenko? Here's another thing--if I'm right about the motive for the Freund murder, then it's pooooooooooosssssssssible that she or her squeeze MIGHT recognize Mentzer. Or anyone else who worked for Pascal.
Oh, and I swear, this is the last time I move this thread around.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 9, 2020 14:22:33 GMT -6
Does anyone remember when Eddie Murphy was caught engaging in sex with a transsexual? That guy died not long afterward, and Mentzer was the prime suspect. He was a hitman, an occultist, and a cult member. The only ones claiming Mentzer was a standup guy and innocent was his lawyer and ex girlfriend, and Omega lol . I believe his lawyer finally changed his opinion somewhat.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 9, 2020 14:25:28 GMT -6
Omega please go to the KidKenoma blog under Mr. Real estate and read not only my posts, but others who mention the web brain site. That was where I first talked with Mr. Horan.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 9, 2020 15:06:17 GMT -6
i apologize. I'm glad others have seen it. It's my belief that Maury or his nephew made it. Whoever did knew the ins and outs when it came to names and connections. I'm the guy who did the research for "lolfieldlove" in his video about Dahmer and the Process church. What's interesting is it is stated that Serena Heart married Barry Dossenko in 1974. Serena Heart is from Miami Beach Florida, and the early 70s was the time the Process opened a chapter in Miami according to Timothy Wylie. I believe Dahmer was a Process member as well. When he was "kicked out" of the army he got a ticket to Miami because he wanted to live in a nice sunny environment. 10 years later he's in a bar in Milwaukee talking with brother John Paul Ranieri of the Process. The name John Ranieri is in a couple books about Dahmer.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 10, 2020 9:23:05 GMT -6
Sooooooo...these two angels may have MET through the Process...THAT'S interesting. And aaaaaalllll this argle bargle about "Light this" and "something Light" and "Light that" suuuuuuuure sounds like "Lucifer" talk. Some equate Lucifer with Satan; some don't. But the Process puts Jesus, Lucifer, Jehovah, and Satan in one bag. Some Processeans and others believe(d) that every individual person needed to "be" (through various processes, blah blah blah) all four in order to complete the spiritual journey. Some believe(d) it was enough for some members of the Church to be Satanists, some Luciferans, etc. There were FOUR "leaders" of the Minot cult apparently, right? John Carr, Barry Dossenko, Jerry Berg, and Phil Falcon. Is that right? If Barry was "Lucifer," and John Carr was "Satan," was Jerry Berg "Jehovah?" Was Jerry Berg Jewish? For their purposes, anyhoo, Arlis may well have served as "Jesus Christ." That might explain all the time she supposedly spent with these dingleberries. Did they "Manson" (as in, Scientology-like Sophistry bullshit etc) her into "volunteering" to die for HER faith? Did they manipulate her into vowing to die (or at least, that she was willing to die) for her faith? Was that their excuse?
Speaking of tangents, ever read the "memoirs" of "Josephus?" He is most likely a fictional character (he just fits way too many stereotypes) and his "book" is probably an ancient hoax, but according to his "autobiography," he was supposedly one of those comic book "Pharisees" we've all heard so much about who, when trapped in a cave along with a bunch of other Zealots, rigged a round of "draw the short straw" that resulted in everyone offing each other in a mutually assisted murder/suicide pact--and then he walked out alone and joined the Romans he couldn't beat. Again, probably fiction, but--is that what good ol' Barry pulled on his fellow Processeans? Did he play along until Arlis ("Jesus") John ("Satan") and Jerry ("Jehovah") were all dead, and then walk away whistling? Cause it sounds like it came down to Jerry and Barry, until the day two walked into the woods and one walked out. Know what I mean?
PS I wonder where he and "Serena" got the money to set up in North Carolina. I mean, they had just spent several years in the pen. Where'd they get stake money? Did they ever pay their lawyer? Etc?
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Post by Jon on Jul 10, 2020 13:17:51 GMT -6
"Aquarius Hador" of Minneapolis might be able to answer some key questions, if we knew his true identity. Jim Rothstein has fingered "Hador" as a CIA operative and claims that he (Hador) worked with Dossenko, but I don't know much beyond that. I've tried without success to contact Rothstein.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 10, 2020 15:10:48 GMT -6
Minneapolis? That's funny...for reasons I will try to organize later.
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Post by Jon on Jul 10, 2020 17:31:03 GMT -6
Looking forward to it!
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Post by james1983 on Jul 12, 2020 3:56:08 GMT -6
Professor. You forgot to mention one of the most important parts, how Dossenko was involved in LSD studies with an MK ultra Doctor lol. Also I was going to ask you if you seen the picture of the process church "praying" with governe George Wallace before a speech? I'm not sure if it was taken in Alabama or North Carolina.
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Post by ace on Jul 12, 2020 9:53:26 GMT -6
Professor. You forgot to mention one of the most important parts, how Dossenko was involved in LSD studies with an MK ultra Doctor lol. Good god. HOW AM I NOT SURPRISED.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 12, 2020 10:41:04 GMT -6
Dr. Stanislav Grof
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Post by james1983 on Jul 12, 2020 10:43:49 GMT -6
He was no small fish. One of the first doctors to mix LSD with psychology. I'm not sure what his "holographic" studies are, but it sounds interesting. Gonna have to check it out.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 12, 2020 11:35:36 GMT -6
Well, in my defense, I only had three hours, one beer, and too much caffeine. Oh, and if you think that's the "only" thing I forgot to mention, hold onto your wigs...
At the moment, I'm sort of trying to keep myself focused on one thread at a time in each "episode." CIA narcotics smuggling. Crooked detective agency. Satanic porn cult kooks. Operations Artichoke, Ultra, and Chaos/Cointelpro. I think the fact that these "cases" can be tied together in FOUR separate ways means a hell of a lot. And once I get "done" with these, the next step will probably be, "What other crimes have these ratgagging bastards committed?"
Etc.
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