Post by karis on Jun 22, 2020 11:49:03 GMT -6
Myself and kmik are getting togather all the information we can find on Karl Spang. Since that seemed to be the direction Mike was going in when he ran across the bartender story. I wonder if Mike knew this or maybe just forgot?
October 25, 2017: …..he emailed me today about some more Karl Spang reports he'd recently read. Stuff we've never seen before. Bullshit about Johnny and Dana scoring weed from him, then burning him on a deal, which was described as his reason to go out to Keddie...….
Now dmac has once again decided that Karl was lying and had nothing to do with the murders. The only thing he found believable about Karl's story was a bartenders story about Marty and Sue.
I admit I have looked at Karl's story many times and never noticed this.
Here is a two-page report about Karl's experience. The date of the report 5-5-81:
I recontacted Karl S. by phone to confirm that he will take Deputy Wright to Meadow Valley and to arrange a hypnosis session with Sheriff Thomas. Prior to talking to him, however, I talked with his mother. She told me that she was waiting up for Karl on the morning of 4-12-81 and he arrived home around 0100 or 0130 hr. Also there was nothing she noticed unusual about him. She said he told her he was coming home from Quincy when he noticed a black or dark-colored LTD or similar car that had San Rafael on the license bracket along the side of the road (Hwy 70) between Keddie and the Greenville "Y." The vehicle had a flat tire so Karl stopped to help them. He said two people were inside and they well-dressed and so he changed the tire for them because he was dressed in his "grubbies." She said he thought it was unusual that those people were dressed the way they were happened to be at that location with a flat tire (Karl told his mother this that Sunday morning when he got home). His mother said that was about all she could remember about anything he had to say. I asked her if he mentioned a party in Meadow Valley and she said he didn't.
I recently looked back at Karl's mother Beatrice Sanders. I found an article in the FRB. The date on the article was 1979. She and her father-in-law received new canes as she was blind. She had gone blind in 1971 as a result of her multiple sclorosis. Here are a few outtakes from the article.
"when you go blind you go down in a deep well". But with the help of family and friend.....
"Mrs. Sanders explained she has developed her sensory skills to compensate for her lack of sight. I can hear the softest sound even footprints on carpet....
Did she really know what time he arrived home or did he tell her what time it was? How in the world could she tell the police she noticed nothing unusual about him? There is no way she could have described his clothes according to the article.
October 25, 2017: …..he emailed me today about some more Karl Spang reports he'd recently read. Stuff we've never seen before. Bullshit about Johnny and Dana scoring weed from him, then burning him on a deal, which was described as his reason to go out to Keddie...….
Now dmac has once again decided that Karl was lying and had nothing to do with the murders. The only thing he found believable about Karl's story was a bartenders story about Marty and Sue.
I admit I have looked at Karl's story many times and never noticed this.
Here is a two-page report about Karl's experience. The date of the report 5-5-81:
I recontacted Karl S. by phone to confirm that he will take Deputy Wright to Meadow Valley and to arrange a hypnosis session with Sheriff Thomas. Prior to talking to him, however, I talked with his mother. She told me that she was waiting up for Karl on the morning of 4-12-81 and he arrived home around 0100 or 0130 hr. Also there was nothing she noticed unusual about him. She said he told her he was coming home from Quincy when he noticed a black or dark-colored LTD or similar car that had San Rafael on the license bracket along the side of the road (Hwy 70) between Keddie and the Greenville "Y." The vehicle had a flat tire so Karl stopped to help them. He said two people were inside and they well-dressed and so he changed the tire for them because he was dressed in his "grubbies." She said he thought it was unusual that those people were dressed the way they were happened to be at that location with a flat tire (Karl told his mother this that Sunday morning when he got home). His mother said that was about all she could remember about anything he had to say. I asked her if he mentioned a party in Meadow Valley and she said he didn't.
I recently looked back at Karl's mother Beatrice Sanders. I found an article in the FRB. The date on the article was 1979. She and her father-in-law received new canes as she was blind. She had gone blind in 1971 as a result of her multiple sclorosis. Here are a few outtakes from the article.
"when you go blind you go down in a deep well". But with the help of family and friend.....
"Mrs. Sanders explained she has developed her sensory skills to compensate for her lack of sight. I can hear the softest sound even footprints on carpet....
Did she really know what time he arrived home or did he tell her what time it was? How in the world could she tell the police she noticed nothing unusual about him? There is no way she could have described his clothes according to the article.