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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 28, 2020 17:25:50 GMT -6
No, it's a totally different clan of Melchers, believe it or not. No connection. However, there MIGHT be a real estate connection...
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Post by james1983 on Jul 28, 2020 20:24:54 GMT -6
I don't believe there is just one zodiac killer. Robert may have known who killed one of the victims that was attributed to zodiac, but obviously no one knows as there's absolutely zero evidence linking him to one of the murders. The Tate murder on the other hand seems more intriguing because of the glasses, and the murder of Dr. Ohta. I never checked dates, but wasn't the Ohta murder right after the Tate murder? Ohta was Linkletters optometrist, and his sister implicated him on murders I believe. Just another avenue to try and dig for info. I'm not calling them facts.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 29, 2020 7:02:42 GMT -6
Jebus. Jebus, Jebus, Jebus. Forget Manson. Forget Son of Sam. We need to look into the goddamned Linkletter murders...
...and we will. I did not know about the optometrist, either.
I had to do a last-minute videoconference for work yesterday evening. It's a good thing, too, because you guys and myself have suddenly come up with a ton of new stuff I need to sort out before Saturday. I was mainly going to correct two huge misstatements I made last week, any way.
Oh, and we've tracked down Bill Vance. You will NOT believe where he's been living for the past 50 years (although he may be dead by now. He was alive in 2015.) But there's not much doubt about it--"Helter Skelter" was almost entirely HIS idea--not Charlie's.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure I've cracked the Steven Parent murder, at the very least...
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Post by james1983 on Jul 29, 2020 8:04:16 GMT -6
It's always been my personal opinion that Zodiac and the Manson murders were linked somehow, I'm excited to see if any new evidence can be scraped up linking the two. its obvious these murders were later used politically by the government of California. I think here is where things can start getting really interesting. Thanks for the two links.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 29, 2020 11:41:05 GMT -6
I'm tempted to try and go live tonight just because there is so much stuff to go over that we all have dug up in the past week or less. But I made two (or more?) sloppy mistakes on Saturday, so I don't want to do that again.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 29, 2020 11:51:11 GMT -6
Uuuuhhh...I do, now. Okay. We're on!
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 3:14:43 GMT -6
Finally someone takes Rodney Alcalas involvement in this tangled mess seriously. I mentioned him on your YouTube channel a couple months ago. It's my belief with proper research he could be connected to both the Westchester cult and killings in California. I'll say the same about the Hillside Stranglers, particularly Kenneth Bianchi who came from Rochester. I always found his connection to Polanski intriguing, then add the fact he traveled around the country killing who knows how many people. How in the hell did he get on the dating game? Opperman did an interview with an author who wrote a book about Alcala a couple years ago. Professor. Since you did Oppermans show you should ask him as a guest and pick his brain, he knows a lot more about the SOS and the Tate murders than he talks about on his show. Maybe you can pry loose a few gems from him lol.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 30, 2020 4:49:43 GMT -6
For me, the ULTIMATE "So and So was Jack the Ripper/Zodiac/JFK/Moon Landing/9-11/Hitler Alien Autopsy Bodydouble" ridiculousity was tying Rodney Alcala to Tate/LaBianca. I didn't even bother to do any research on Alcala. So, when the name "Alcala" came up (again, from a completely different direction) I thought--"Naaaaaaaaaaaahhhh! Gotta be somebody else..."
But there he is. The only person in the whole world who had a known motive. And there he is, sitting in Roman Polanski's classroom a couple of years later. And not only did Alcala make professional quality gay porn, but it looks like he's directly tied in with the Durston/Rosen crowd, too. And Sharon's inner circle. And it looks like these people have moved heaven and earth to cover their connections to him...
And now, apparently, I have to go back a reread every word Mae ever wrote. No wonder Charlie wanted to blow up the whole rotten stinking world.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 11:29:42 GMT -6
Mae was a great researcher considering she collected her research from print media. I've been listening to her archive shows for a couple years now, and agree with some of what she concludes, but not all. I actually think her research on serial killers was her best work. She also did research on Aquinos ties to Oliver North (North was his boss in Vietnam), and George Bush. I think she was killed because of the stuff she was saying about Bush at the time, and the fact he was running for president. I still believe Linkletter could have been involved as one of the killers at the Tate residence, but there's no proof other than the glasses that was linked to Dr. Ohta.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 30, 2020 11:54:00 GMT -6
Aaaahhhhhh, someone finally mentioned The Killer Prophet. But, noooooo...those are NOT Dr Ohta's glasses. As we shall see on Saturday. I've often wondered if Frazier was connected to "Four Pi."
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 13:02:43 GMT -6
If they're not Linkletters as Mae seemed to think it will be interesting to see who's they really were. I do know the police at the time were investigating to see if there was a connection between the glasses left at the Tate residence and murder of Dr Ohta. Ohta was Linkletters optometrist so I guess Mae tried to put two and two together. It made sense to me, but it's always hard to pin the blame on someone without knowing all the facts. people questioned by police seen two or more suspects which makes sense. I don't think Linley could have killed them by himself.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 13:35:41 GMT -6
If anyone wants to hear the original show where Mae talks about Linkletter it's on WorldWatcher.info on 9-28-80. The person who sent both Mae and the judge a letter claimed Linkletter was in the court sitting in the back "snickering" during the trial, I assume she means the Linley trial. Anyways it's an interesting show.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 13:43:25 GMT -6
Side 2 starting at 3:25
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Post by marionumber1 on Jul 30, 2020 13:44:58 GMT -6
Finally someone takes Rodney Alcalas involvement in this tangled mess seriously. I mentioned him on your YouTube channel a couple months ago. It's my belief with proper research he could be connected to both the Westchester cult and killings in California. I'll say the same about the Hillside Stranglers, particularly Kenneth Bianchi who came from Rochester. I always found his connection to Polanski intriguing, then add the fact he traveled around the country killing who knows how many people. How in the hell did he get on the dating game? Opperman did an interview with an author who wrote a book about Alcala a couple years ago. Professor. Since you did Oppermans show you should ask him as a guest and pick his brain, he knows a lot more about the SOS and the Tate murders than he talks about on his show. Maybe you can pry loose a few gems from him lol. Since you mention it, there's actually a good chance that Alcala could be linked to the Hillside Strangler killings in some way. Initially there were 13 women on the Hillside Strangler victim list, since they had all been murdered and posed in roughly the same manner. Then a Massachusetts prison escapee named George Shamshak confessed to being part of just two of the murders, of Jill Barcomb and Kathleen Robinson, indicating that ( www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1978/04/01/2-la-arrests-cast-doubt-on-single-strangler-theory/413f9c4a-d8ae-44de-b3be-ba74bac7fcd9/) if true "it means police were wrong in linking the 13 deaths to a single killer or murder team". He implicated a handyman friend of his named Peter Mark Jones as the actual killer. Police arrested Jones but released him due to lack of evidence. However, the LAPD continued to take Shamshak's confessions seriously because he purportedly knew unpublicized details of the crimes ( dailyiowan.lib.uiowa.edu/DI/1978/di1978-04-13.pdf#page=3): Shamshak claimed to have made a tape recording of Kathleen Robinson's murder, and said that he was just the chauffeur that drove around three people -- presumably Peter Mark Jones (?), another man, and a woman who later became a victim of the group -- who were actually committing the murders ( www.newspapers.com/clip/51715548/george-shamshak-tapes/): p.30-31 of Michael Newton's Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes ( web.archive.org/web/20200520021626/https://img.fireden.net/tg/image/1459/19/1459193525585.pdf) talks about how the Barcomb and Robinson cases developed afterwards. Although neither Shamshak nor Jones was charged, the LAPD still removed those two murders from the "list of presumed series victims". This was likely because Bianchi's confession happened to exclude those two murders, leaving both cases unsolved. In 1995, Jones tried to obtain records on the cases, only to be told they were "destroyed in an earthquake". And 8 years later, Rodney Alcala was linked to Barcomb's murder by DNA evidence. Though strangely enough, Barcomb was friends with official Bianchi and Buono victim Judith Miller who had been killed 10 days earlier on Halloween. Not too long ago, Peter Mark Jones reviewed a Hillside Strangler book on Google Books ( books.google.com/books?id=DsMjwZgPuOMC&sitesec=reviews), claiming that George Shamshak had inserted his (Jones') name in place of his brother Sam Shamshak's name: Sam Shamshak was a Hollywood actor prominent enough to have an IMDB page ( www.imdb.com/name/nm0787910/), and to have appeared in some well-known shows like NYPD Blue, Seinfeld, and Ghost Whisperer. A news article confirms that George did have a brother named Sam who was an actor ( www.newspapers.com/clip/51767723/the-tampa-times/): Is it possible that George Shamshak's story was mostly accurate, and that Rodney Alcala and Sam Shamshak were working together to murder women in Los Angeles while brother George drove them around? Alcala's connections were in the Hollywood scene and Sam Shamshak was part of that to some degree also. One final note: that Washington Post article I linked above states that Barcomb "came to Hoolywood after a New York conviction for prostitution", which means that, just like her killer Alcala (and possibly also Sam Shamshak if the rumor of him killing women in New York is true), she went between New York and Southern California.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 30, 2020 13:58:49 GMT -6
Very interesting. You mention the stranglers, on the same show at the 17 minute mark she says that Bianchi was setting up high ranking politicians and filming them with the woman that were later killed. It would be something to look into if it's even possible lol. It's crazy how a lot of these killers can be linked. To the very least further research shows they could not have acted alone as the media portrays.
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