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Post by maxnewman on Jun 8, 2020 15:56:15 GMT -6
One more thing I wanted to get to the bottom of. Is there connection between Jerry Hubbard and Roy E. Cameron at Jet Propulsion and L. Ron Hubbard and the Camerons? I note this based on the book On Mars on the Errata (or page 6 of the PDF): history.nasa.gov/SP-4212.pdfHere is the relevant quote that references these people: On p. 235, lines 25-27, the statement that Norman Horowitz, Roy E. Cameron, and Jerry S. Hubbard failed to detect microorganisms in the soil of the dry valleys of Antarctica in five years of research is incorrect. The cited reference (ref. 70) shows that these authors detected bacteria in 86 percent of soil samples examined; 14 percent were sterile.
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Post by ace on Jun 8, 2020 16:36:19 GMT -6
Max, I forgot hat-tip you. That classified ad in your word doc is what set me off on that trail.
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Post by maxnewman on Jun 8, 2020 22:06:04 GMT -6
Thanks, Ace! Max, I forgot hat-tip you. That classified ad in your word doc is what set me off on that trail.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jun 10, 2020 5:54:48 GMT -6
Wow! You guys are doing great! For now, I'll just pop in and add that we WILL get to the diabolical influence of "Yogi Bhajan" and his pedophile "Kundalini Yoga" cult in the US. For now, let's just say he makes "Maharishi" look like a Red Cross volunter.
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Post by james1983 on Jun 10, 2020 10:14:14 GMT -6
Speaking of cults and the intelligence community. I was just reading a politico.com article by David Gambacorta 1/12/2020. It reports on searching through FOIA documents online and coming across "an informant" who called the FBI saying he was contacted by Anton Lavey in regards to asaasinating Ted Kennedy with the Chicago mob in 1980. It just came out 40 years later lol. The FBI visits Lavey, asks him about the supposed plot in which Lavey naturally denies, then case closed. I guess they thought Lavey would come clean if he was in deed guilty lol. What funny is a little later in the decade he's involved in the Richard Ramirez media stunts on national TV.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jun 10, 2020 11:44:38 GMT -6
I read that article. I think the fact that LaVey was such a blatantly obvious phony is important, because it suggests that he was more of a "plant" than a real "satanist."
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Post by james1983 on Jun 10, 2020 12:17:16 GMT -6
im in the middle of doing a book report for you guys on Andrew Crispo. I'll give a teaser. Andrew Crispo (SOS cult member) frequented the mineshaft (gay night club in NY) with Jerzy Kosinski, his lawyer Roy Cohn, and the manager of the Beatles at that time. Quite a few members of the SOS cult frequented that club along with studio 54. Also the DA that prosecuted Crispo in his murder trial was a regular at that club. I believe he resigned because of his Sado masochism coming to light. The club was of coarse owned by the mob lol.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jun 10, 2020 15:14:26 GMT -6
Nice!
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Post by james1983 on Jun 10, 2020 15:22:28 GMT -6
After checking my notes I was wrong on the name of the gay club. They all frequented the hellfire club. The mineshaft was the other gay club Crispo prowled. Beatles manager Peter Brown called Crispo "funny money" because he always wondered aloud where Crispo was getting his funding lol
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Post by james1983 on Jul 27, 2020 23:02:58 GMT -6
I don't know where to post this since there's no Manson section. You mentioned Bill Vance I believe who you said went to school with Art Linkletters son. I know you don't put much weight on Mae Brussell but she reported in the late 70s that Art Linkletters son Robert Linkletters was involved in the Manson Murders. The pair of glasses that was left she claimed belonged to Robert, and that the optometrist Victor Ohta was killed because he was Linkletters Doctor, and could trace the glasses back to him since police were investigating the glasses at that time. Ohta mas supposedly killed by the "killer prophet" John Linley Frazier who was one odd fella. The picture with half his head shaved completely and the other side long proves this lol. Anyway I feel since you brought up Vance and Linkletters together I'd post. I think it could be a key to your theory.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 27, 2020 23:04:42 GMT -6
Oh yeah. Robert Linkletters died in a car crash on September 12 1980. 1 day after the ancient Egyptian new year of September 11. It holds high occult significance.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 28, 2020 6:01:33 GMT -6
No, Bill Vance did not go to Elliott-Porter with Sinatra's and Linkletter's kids. His landlord/roommate at the Venice beach house where Zero bought it went to that school with those kids. Mark Rosen, aka Mark Ross, aka "Aesop Aquarius." When "Vance" got out of Terminal Island, he moved straight into the beach house with Rosen. Then he started taking over Manson's "Family." The links between [Rosen] and the "Manson" murders gets wilder and wilder, as we shall see.
I will go deeper into that in tonight's live episode July 28, 2020.
The thing with Mae is, it's easier to just re-research each of her wild claims from scratch than it is to try and disentangle the chicken salad from the chicken shit. For example, Robert Linkletter and his siblings ARE very interesting--but it's easier (and better) to just re-trace her "investigations" than it is to debunk the 1000 unwarranted conclusions she jumps to. Think of Mae as an over-eager bird dog. When she points, look at what she's pointing at. But for god's sake, you wouldn't give a dog a loaded shotgun.
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Post by james1983 on Jul 28, 2020 6:40:18 GMT -6
I heard you wrong. Some of her stories are wild, but yet people like Alex Constantine has proven a lot of what she said to be true. The Linkletter story was one she was told by a "friend", so you are right on that as there is no evidence to support it. If Vance did go to school him I it would have been something to look further into, but I heard it wrong. I apologize.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 28, 2020 10:23:50 GMT -6
Oh, no, I'm not saying Mae doesn't dig up great info. I said, she throws in a pot full of horseshit and calls it "case closed." But rather than go into all that, it's just easier to poach her information and run it down myself. Like, yeah, she's right about Linkletter (a lot of it) but that doesn't make him the Zodiac Killer. And there's way more to the Linkletter story than she knows. She's like Speed Racer. She starts off on the right track, but then, the next thing you know, she's going 300mph along the bottom of a jungle river. Tonight I will discuss all this and touch on her Robert Linkletter stuff.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 28, 2020 13:16:46 GMT -6
Nope. He was married to Jacqueline Carlin. Who also married Chevy Chase. Sharon Linkletter married a Gordon G Melcher.
Here's something interesting: When Art Linkletter's daughter Diane "fell" out of a window and died, "The husband of another daughter [Dawn] had committed suicide three months earlier." WHAT???
Desert Sun, Volume 42, Number 296, 16 July 1969 Linkletter Kin Shot, Autopsy To Be Held
HOLLYWOOD (UPI)—An autopsy will be performed on John Zweyer, 33, son-in-law of entertainer Art Linkletter, to determine whether his shooting death was suicide or an accident. Zweyer, an insurance broker and husband of Linkletter's daughter, Dawn, 29, fatally wounded himself in the head with a .38-caliber revolver Tuesday at his home.
The family and police versions of the shooting differed. A detective said it was suicide and a family spokesman called it an accidental shooting. The coroner’s office listed the death as a possible suicide pending an autopsy today. “There is hardly the possibility of it being an accident," said a police detective, who noted Zweyer had been despondent over his insurance business. The detective said Zweyer came home about 10 a.m. Later, his wife heard a noise but did not associate it with the discharge of a gun. She went into the bedroom and found a gunlock on the bed. Then she went to the back yard and found her husband’s body by the swimming pool.
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