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Post by louclou on Mar 14, 2020 2:35:56 GMT -6
I have always felt there was just more to this than one guy murdering for thrill satisfaction or whatever. This one as well as couple others. That is interesting about the license plate witness recall. This particular night only one man was witnessed to have been seen. Unless I overlooked it going back over SOS. Witness stated two men and yellow Volkswagen. Seems it was before the killing took place. Not sure but couple hours or so. This leads into another curious part. Supposedly this cult met, gathered at a park(?)in the woods. There was a couple and friend (young) hanging, partying. They either knew DB from seeing one another, previous exchange before or same night. Seeing him this particular night, noticed group of people away but not far from them. Small talk like "hey" "what's up" "wanna beer" then "who are they" DB "some people I know, (they\we?) just killed a girl, crazy huh" scared just going along to get away. Yeah crazy gotta go. He might have offered introducing they declined with no gotta go. These kids were scared and felt like it could have been one or all of them. They maybe had gave or given a ride before and that being how known. It's been awhile but reading it had a ring of truth to me, for what it's worth. Now back to the two men, again not exactly sure but 95% this happened that evening while being seen. At some point one was seen going off towards woods, park(?) Other opposite way. Later killing and fleeing same night possibly. The statement about the two was said because of one of the murders, seeing him at some point with another guy who went another way after they lingered on sidewalk talking, walking in small area until one walked away... Later witnessing one of those men leaving scene of murder. Where these people were parked is there a park, woods, likes of close by? Interesting again the fact LE have mingled on the other side, very reason it enables sprees to continue. Wonder if the reasoning behind blowing off yellow bug (if said at all, doubt) DB vehicle was not a yellow bug. Bundy and him both active same time. Ted political connection(s) Berkowitz military. I'm not saying connected just similarities and POI. Bundy claimed it's "bigger than us" along those lines, "cults" "sacrifice" and of course "black outs" has anyone else heard any, some, lil tiny bit of anything I just rambled about. I get to going, before I know it longggg. Long enough I didn't proof read, so if I get ahead of myself, insert in wrong places, forget something intended please forgive me. I type slow but think fast, giving me false illusion that I put it in.Just let me know "splain lucy" Lou.
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Post by dt2016 on Apr 3, 2020 21:02:32 GMT -6
Professor, you mentioned at times in your podcasts a power point screen but I only see the Stones Unturned screen. Do you have a screenshot of it and can it be posted here in a thread? It would help keep things in perspective for people who think it was only Berkowitz. Thanks
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 5, 2020 6:33:21 GMT -6
Hmmmm....I forgot about that. My original intent was to do a PP for each episode, then edit those into a book. But then I learned that YouTube automatically transcribes videos into subtitles, and I can download those text files and edit THOSE into a book.
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Post by sierra on Apr 12, 2020 11:20:55 GMT -6
Berkowitz is a sociopath. Sociopaths create characters in their mind, and project these characters onto real people.
Berkowitz could have belonged to a death cult with millions of real people as members in his mind, but not one of those real people (neighbors, coworkers, Army buddies, etc) knew they were in Berkowitz's death cult.
This doesn't mean there wasn't a real cult that he or his friends belonged to. His friends could even be pieces of crap as defined by social norms. I am just pointing out that just because he says others were involved in the shootings, doesn't mean they were involved or knew what Berkowitz was doing.
Hope this makes some sense about the mind of a sociopath.
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 13, 2020 12:55:58 GMT -6
Right. That's why I keep shooting my mouth off about all this corroborating evidence that I swear we'll get to soon.
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Post by ace on May 9, 2020 9:43:56 GMT -6
I mention this because it is my belief that these cults today are not influenced by 200 year old Grimoires. It is strictly a bastardization of paperback Black Magic Bibles, comic books, monster movies and other pop culture goodies. Even “so called” serious occultist (snicker) like Peter Levenda pushes his agenda that Lovecraft’s Necronomicon is real! I used to collect comic books growing up in the 80's and early 90's because I was really into the artwork. I miss that buzz I used to get from finding a new Kirby for my collection. Anyway, that world attracted high IQ loners, run-of-the-mill misunderstood loners, and perverts (who were usually behind the counter). Probably still does. In comic book shops you are far more likely to run across pro-occult material than, say, pro-Baptist. And by "far more" I mean very.
I do not put a lot of stock in Peter Lavenda but I kinda tend to believe what "Simon" had to say about the NYC occult scene and the connection to Marvel comics in his book Dead Names.
Speaking of Marvel, I ran across this blogpost in another (Zodiac related) forum. Maybe you guys have seen it.
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Post by Admin Horan on May 9, 2020 16:34:10 GMT -6
That's interesting. It's like Hitler's fascination with Wagner (there were no superhero comic books yet) and fantasies of being Seigfried. Look at the propaganda films. They portray Hitler as a proto-superhero. The films themselves were supposed to "be" Hitler after he was dead. A larger-than-life hero in a comicbook opera. A Hitler worshipper might emulate that kind of behavior on the grounds of, "If thinking big and dreaming big worked for Hitler..."
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Post by cooper on Aug 2, 2022 5:33:20 GMT -6
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Post by Admin Horan on Aug 2, 2022 20:02:43 GMT -6
Every word of that article...wow! Have a pumpkin sticker!
NEW ROCHELLE, N.Y., Feb. 14—An Army sharpshooter twice convicted by courts‐martial, and a good neighbor who would take teen‐aged boys on outings, a Nazi sympathizer who said he hated blacks and Jews, and a parochial schoolboy who would not let an old woman shovel her own snow—these were some of the pieces of the puzzle of Fred Cowan that emerged today. In the hours after Mr. Cowan shot five people and then killed himself, neighbors and friends described him alternately as a “nice man” and “real prejudiced.” His drinking companions of the Galway Bay Bar had heard him talk for years of his hatred of Jews and blacks and they heard him express ardent support for Nazism.
They said they just considered this a sort of eccentricity, and a rather harmless one. A few said they thought he was a bit “weird.”
They knew that he wore a belt buckle with a swastika and an Afrika Korps hat and that among the tattoos on his big, powerful body was a swastika. This they also considered no more threatening than his passion for guns or his dedication to weightlifting. He would sometimes display his huge muscles in front of the mirror in the bar. No Reports of Violence No one had ever known him to be violent, threatening or of ever having been in a fist fight. In the neighborhood, schoolboys. in particular, even those who had seen his guns and his weightlifting apparatus, and his Nazi flags in the house where he lived with his parents, had never felt any fear of him.
Yet Army officials say that Mr. Cowan was convicted twice by special courts‐martial, in November 1964 for being absent without leave and slightly more than a year later for leaving the scene of an accident in West Germany, where he was stationed at the time. Records show he did not serve in Vietnam, was never wounded in battle, and served six months for his Army offenses. The Army would not disclose what kind of discharge he had received.
One of Mr. Cowan's brothers, David, is a fireman, and the other, Jim, works in the post office. Both are married and have their own homes. Fred Cowan never married. He did not seem to like women particularly. This was recalled vividly by John O'Neill, 14 years old, who lives at 32 Woodbury Avenue, near the Cowan house. At one time, he said, when he and some other boys were listening to Mr. Cowan talk about guns, one of the boys asked him if he would rather have a gun or a girl. “He said he did not need girls,” the boy recalled, and then he said Mr. Cowan then said, “if you want to be a man, get a gun.” The boy. said Mr. Cowan once said, after reviling Jews and blacks: “I am the second Hitler.” Tommy Gee, 14 years old, who shines shoes in the Galway Bay Bar, said: “I thought he was all right. I never thought he would do anything like this. He used to take us kids to the auto races in Trenton. He took me to the rifle range. He even let me use his .22. He was always good to us.” Anthony Frustaglia, who has lived next door to the Cowan house, at 40 Woodbury Avenue, for about 50 years, and had known Fred since he was little boy more than 30 years, ago, said: “He was a nice fellow. You couldn't find a better neighbor. He used to sit in the backyard and read. He mowed the lawn and raked the leaves. “When you hear something like this today about your neighbor you get skinned like a chicken.” He told how during the past summer, Mr. Cowan put new green siding on their two‐story house.
A couple of winters ago, he said, when he had gone to the hospital, his wife started to shovel snow.
“Freddy told her not to shovel the snow,” he said. “He took the shovel and did it himself.” Minna Thompson, who is now middle aged and has been a school crossing guard for some 20 years, recalled: “He was always so nice. Even as a boy. I cannot believe it. And such the family.” Mr. Cowan attended Roman Catholic schools here. He spent eight years at Blessed Sacrament Grammar School, graduating in 1957, and was described as a “brilliant, but sensitive child,” by Sister Constance, the principal there. He went on to Archbishop Stepinac School in White Plains, where he received an academic diploma in 1961 and where he was in the top quarter of his class. After one year at Villanova University in a suburb of Philadelphia, he failed to enroll for his second year of engineering studies. [1962] At the Galway Bay Bar, with its pool table at the rear, its American flag, its pictures of Mickey Mantle and trotting horse, Francis J. McKenna said he had known Mr. Cowan for about 30 years, and insisted that he always felt that “one of these days Freddy was going to snap.” But he could not remember a single instance in which Mr. Cowan had ever threatened anyone or had had a fight. Neither could anyone else in the crowded bar. Some people thought it strange that Mr. Cowan had had a sticker on his car reading: “Impeach Carter.” But this they considered another one of his harmless eccentricities.
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