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Post by jmo on Dec 27, 2019 18:18:37 GMT -6
DIABETES KIT
Where is Dana's kit (if he had one with him as we believe he did). Remember when Mama Meeks was talking to Marilyn on line and she was really trying to convince Marilyn that she (Marilyn) had seen needles in the basement of her house? Annnd, she realllyy tried to convince her. Now, how secure was 28? Sounds like cops were walking all over in there? Maybe Dana's needles were left at Johnny's house and after the crime, taken out of Johnny's house. There are discrepancies in what both boys were seen wearing. Did they pop in at Johnny's to change and Dana leave his kit there? Didn't the story about "needles being everywhere in Marty's basement" come from Wade Meeks? I believe that's an embellishment, but how many needles would Wade have to see to think Marty was using needles in his basement? One, two, three? How many would Dana have with him? Who could have gotten needles out of 28 and put them in 26? I think it was around three days in between the murders and when Marilyn went out to get some of her stuff? I could be way off but there are only two mentions of needles. Dana giving himself a shot, and Marty having them in his basement.
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 27, 2019 20:20:35 GMT -6
I had (partially) the same thoughts. It was pointed out to me that the needles in the basement is very questionable. Like marilyn was the ONLY person to see them. However I have 2 thoughts 1) Someone believed his diabetes kit was actually a drug kit so they took it. 2) Someone was withholding Dana's kit until they got what they wanted.
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Post by jmo on Dec 29, 2019 14:54:10 GMT -6
DNA
We were told Justin's DNA was found at the scene (no surprise there) but, wasn't there talk of a registered sex offender's DNA as well?
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Post by kay on Dec 30, 2019 20:50:22 GMT -6
Where was mama Meeks saying this? And when? It’s possible she was confusing different stories together or she could have been lying. Even better, Marilyn could have been lying because apparently there was a time she was saying Marty did it then she switched to saying Marty didn’t
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 31, 2019 6:25:12 GMT -6
Remember--we have no reports or anything else to indicate that police even LOOKED in the basement.
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Post by louclou on Jan 10, 2020 17:21:36 GMT -6
Do you think it's possible that it was taken by the murderers (unless the kids were the ones. If they were involved in on it with whoever's still possiblity)
Could Dana have accidentally left it behind or forgotten, under the influence of something makes that likely.
What significance does it have to lead anywhere.
I've noticed this has come up few times, evidently after the reason it could matter.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 11, 2020 13:46:20 GMT -6
Well, I pointed out on another thread, there are a lot of reasons for thinking Dana was killed somewhere else and brought to Cabin 28 to make it look like the whole thing happened there. So, his diabetic kit (and maybe duffel bag) could have been left there.
Simple.
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Post by louclou on Jan 11, 2020 22:32:40 GMT -6
Thank you Mr Horan. I figured it had been covered. I get in here start reading staying on one subject each time. By the time I joined plenty 411 to look at. This case has attachments for me sentimental. Okay so one more stupid question. Finding Dana's kit, probably his murder location, pointing to killer(s) and or better perspective. Because he was on sitting position and rigor is how that's known. That's really puzzling, making it to me more sinister than it already is. Before hitchhiking home last seen at DX determined could be inaccurate in determining if went home from here or somewhere else?Gets really trippy about car with flat, parking lots,dark windows,church parking lot,men in Black😉 Dana and John seen by this witness giving statement on the trippy 411. Do you think this last or any part of events here happened? Not sure could eventually?
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 12, 2020 7:06:26 GMT -6
Maybe. Or, maybe, someone put him in a "sleeper" hold and didn't realize he was dead for a couple of hours. And panicked.
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Post by kmik on Jan 12, 2020 7:42:12 GMT -6
I'm not a diabetic and have no idea how much insulin or how many times a day a severe diabetic teenager would have been required to take in the early 1980's. We keep referring to a "kit" but how are we so sure he had some big "kit" with him? I don't remember any mention of him leaving the foster home with a "kit" nor anyone besides Kathy who claimed to have seen Dana give himself a shot. We also do not have all of the case files so we cannot be sure that Dana's medicine was not found on him or maybe the police are aware of how often he actually took medication.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 12, 2020 15:49:51 GMT -6
If he gave himself insulin injections, he was a Type I diabetic. He would NOT have left the Dorris home for a sleepover without his kit. To give himself a shot at Kathy Beckeley's house, he had to have his kit with him. She didn't find it after the murders. So, he took it with him.
His kit would have vials of both Humalog and Tantalus insulin, hypodermic needles, alcohol swabs, lancets, and glucose test strips. In those days, about the size of a small shaving kit or small purse.
But that's a good question--is there any confirmation that he was diabetic?
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Post by kay on Jan 13, 2020 15:13:59 GMT -6
But that's a good question--is there any confirmation that he was diabetic? His dad and foster dad both have confirmed he was a diabetic. Sheila also mentioned in a screenshot I’ve seen that she seems to remember Dana gave himself his shot in his thigh or stomach. So I don’t doubt for a minute that he was |
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