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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 15, 2020 11:51:35 GMT -6
Eyler went to his grave swearing he had an accomplice, named Robert David Little. In fact, just like Berkowitz, Eyler claimed that yes, I did kill some of the victims, but not all of them.
Dahmer and Eyler weren't just "gay serial killers." They were into the same leather bodybuilder S&M "gay" stuff as Kenneth Anger and his friends, Pic Dawson and his friends, Berkowitz and his friends...
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Post by james1983 on Oct 15, 2020 15:29:50 GMT -6
What's funny is there was a murder/dismemberment in Wisconsin they first blamed on Eyler then tried to blame on Dahmer later on. The farm shed that Eyler took victims to had satanic symbols on the walls. Little was a Professor at UI or IU can't remember which. Eyler worked for the state helping low income families and the elderly. His lover John Dobrovolskises had a state government job as well. They also found muscle magazines in Eylers home, he was into body building as well. Another friend given as James Williams worked for the department of public instruction. Eyler spent six months as a Pinkerton guard at the Indianapolis general hospital, which I found weird since they do extensive background checks. Eyler had another lover who was in the military, and he wasn't just a foot soldier either, I'll have to go back and get his name, I'm not sure what names are real or fiction as the book doesn't provide an asterisk for made up names as most "true crime" books do. Anyways Eyler wasn't a "loner" at all like they make him out to be. He lived with Little and Dobrovolskises back and forth. In fact Dobrovolskises was married with children and Eyler lived there with him and his family, the wife knew the town men were lovers and agreed to the threeway relationship. his first supposed run in with the law was when he ties a man up and ran a butcher knife through him. What's weird is the judge actually lowered Eylers bail so he could get out with only 1,000$, then Eylers lawyer met the man who was stabbed as he was leaving the hospital and offered 25,000$ if he dropped charges, and he did. My question is why didn't the county or state pick up the obvious attempted murder case? thus was supposedly a time when Eyler was living hand to mouth. What I also found weird was detectives kept a jar of Eylers blood in a strofoam cooler. theres no doubt there were dirty cops in this case, especially in Indiana where they basically tried to sabotage the case by bringing him in early without much proof, then holding him for 12 hours without reading him his rights etc, then released him without charging him for a crime. They actually put him in a cell instead of a interview room. They knew what they were doing was wrong. The whole case is crazy.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 15, 2020 15:31:45 GMT -6
I believe Eyler had more than one accomplice. He probably had a small group of 4 or 5.
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Post by marionumber1 on Oct 15, 2020 15:37:20 GMT -6
I just started reading a book about serial killer Larry Eyler who killed in the Indiana and Illinois area. He hunted for victims the same way Dahmer did,; frequenting gay bars and picking up hitchhikers. If he actually did all the crimes attributed to him, there's no way he acted alone. By the scene of one body found was an old farm garage, they found nails driven into the shed with human flesh attached to them, the victim was nailed to the walls upside down, and dressed like a deer. Needless to say this is the task of at least two people, but probably more. The victims were tortured and raped. Eyler frequented Chicago in the late 70s while in college and afterwards. We know Dahmer and Gacy frequented Chicago as well around the same time. What's also interesting is when Dahmers home was searched they found the book I'm reading now called freed to kill by Gera-Lind Kolarik. I'm doubting these are just coincidences. In your reading of Freed to Kill, have you come across any references to John Norman's pedophile ring in Chicago (that Gacy was connected to)? I was once told by someone that the book mentioned it, but they never provided a specific reference. All I noticed when I skimmed the book a while back was a mention on p.266 of the "Chicken Delight Escort Service", which sounded similar and may have overlapped with Norman's ring but probably wasn't the exact same operation:
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Post by james1983 on Oct 15, 2020 16:55:53 GMT -6
I'm not there yet, only on p150. I'll post the name when I run across it. I'm almost convinced Eyler, Gacy, and Dahmer floated around in the same circles. The murders and their circumstances are too similar. The author even speculates on how a 180 pound Eyler got men bigger than him handcuffed; it mentions the Dean Corl/John Gacy technique of using a magic trick as a pretext for them letting him handcuff them. Also it mentions Eyler gave his victims Pacidyl (a hypnotic) in their beer. The fact that satanism is mentioned makes me wonder if the Process was active in Indiana, we know they were in Chicago and Milwaukee, the two places Eyler and Dahmer both killed in. I'd love to read the case files on Eyler and Dahmer to compare places and names, I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more similarities than what's on the surface.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 15, 2020 17:19:27 GMT -6
I just read on p142 that the 3 bodies they found in Lake Village next to the barn with the satanic symbols and nails with human flesh driven in the walls was sitting on a crossroads, I found that very interesting. Also there was a phone call (supposedly from Eyler) from a payphone to professor Little, the payphone was visible from where the bodies were found by the barn.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 15, 2020 18:34:57 GMT -6
Eylers stepfather Irving was an administrator at Indiana state hospital psych ward in Richmond Indiana. Richmond was the stomping ground of Jim Jomes around 15 years before Eylers first murder in 1979.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 16, 2020 23:25:37 GMT -6
Here's some notes I took from the rest of the book. Very interesting. I believe Little and Dobrovolskis were involved with these killings. They were at Eylers house most of the weekend that Danny Bridges was murdered. Eyler claims Little brought Danny over to Eylers house the night he was killed.................Dr. Frank Smith dated Eyler and proscribed him the Placidyl he used on victims. He proscribed it during the murders up to 8 months after they "broke up".
Eyler lived in fort Myers Florida with his sister in 1979. There he dated Eddie Daniels who later admits to some of the murders.
Sheriff Robert "Mickey" Babcox head of Republican Party in Lake County ILL
1970s computerized operation called "chicken delight escort service".
Nun Catherine Ryan of sisters St. Francis, executive director of Maryville, In charge of the juvenile division of circuit court. Took Danny Bridges to Maryville with the support of Daley.
Ryan took kids off the street and sent them to Maryville ran by Rev. Jim Smyth who has been accused of sex abuse and removed from ministry.
Ryan's boss was Richard M. Daley son of famous mayor Richard J Daley
Maryville was intended to be a Great Lakes version of boystown for boys and girls who were sexually abused by relatives or strangers. Smyth knew at a glance when a boy has been "hustling".
Danny lived with a man above a strip club in Lyons in an area where motorcycle gangs hung out
In Chicago Danny hung out at Joes Juice Bar.
Danny was part of a prostitution ring in High Point North Carolina
NBC flew Danny back to Chicago to work on a documentary about child prostitution and sex abuse.
Danny was a police informant on sex abuse cases. His steady contact was Norma Reyes who worked out of the juvenile court building on the west side.
His months of appearing on the stands against child molesters had a 96% conviction rate
Danny's cousin dated Steve Crockett who was killed and Eyler was accused of the murder.
Danny was held as a sex slave in an apartment basement by "Greg Lang" on north Leavitt street. Its the last time he was seen alive by friend "Sammy".
Danny was part of an NBC special on sex abuse and child prostitution.
Dobrovolskis was with Eyler in the morning meaning he was there the night before when Eyler bagged Bridges body and dumped him in his own dumpster.
Police let Dobrovolskis go because he was "just as much confused as frightened" and he passed a polygraph test.
50 boys from Marville and Rev. Smyth attended Danny's funeral
Prosecutor Mark Rakoczy and Rick Stock visited Dr. Little because they needed to establish that Eyler was alone a short time before Danny was killed. Their reasoning for this is juries become confused if they believe more than one person is involved in a crime, and yet only one man is charged. (The prosecutors purposefully made it a lone killer case knowing others were involved. My words)
Prosecutors said Littles answers seemed rehearsed
Police took pictures of Little to see if he could be linked to any of the victims, they said he couldn't. Only then did prosecutors feel confident that Eylers lawyer couldn't impeach Little from the stand.
Indiana state police stopped the investigations of all the other Indiana victims when Eyler was arrested.
Eyler first met professor Little in 1975 then moved in with him shortly after with friend James Williams.
A vice squad detective entered the courtroom during Eylers trail and noticed two men sitting as spectators who had molested Danny.
The prosecution said no semen was found on Danny and claimed he was brought to Eylers home to be murdered.
Eylers mother Shirley Dekoff worked for the federal government starting in the late 50s to early 60s (didn't specify what she did)
Eyler was sent to a catholic school for emotionally disturbed children in Ft. Wayne at 11.
Irving Dekoff director of staff development at state hospital in Richmond.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 16, 2020 23:29:30 GMT -6
I also believe the reason Bridges and Crockett were murdered was to shut them up from talking any further. Bridges and Crockett knew each other well as Crockett dated Bridges cousin. It was also stated in the book that Eyler frequented the Chicago YMCA.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 16, 2020 23:34:58 GMT -6
I forgot to add that Rev. Jim Smyth being a pedophile wasn't mentioned in the book. He's portrayed as a loving man of God who hates to see children abused and out on the streets. He held quite a bit of power in the Chicago children's services as did the nun Cathy Ryan. Eylers considered himself a devout Catholic and went to basically a Catholic mental facility at 11. His mother worked for the government, and his step father worked at the Indiana state hospital. He first met Larry when Larry was 19.
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Post by elantric on Oct 17, 2020 1:12:47 GMT -6
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Post by james1983 on Oct 17, 2020 18:04:06 GMT -6
Patrick from the programmed to kill (lolfieldlove) is a good guy. He wanted me to do an interview with him about the Dahmer/Gacy info I gave him for that episode. Professor here's another thing you can add to your Clinton podcasts in the future. Larry Eylers defense attorney David Schippers was the attorney who first filed the impeachment papers on Bill Clinton about his Lewinsky affair. I found that interesting.
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 18, 2020 7:34:01 GMT -6
Remember when my former heroes James Randi and Martin Gardner turned CSICOP into a propaganda machine for "false memory syndrome?" There was a LOT of money behind CSICOP all of a sudden. I interviewed Gardner about that for Alternet. Specifically, I cross-examined him over a series of "articles" CSICOP published in their journal The Skeptical Inquirer (I had written an article exposing "magnetic laundry balls" for them that they ended up not publishing because they suddenly became this pedophile defending flack shop) claiming that they "could not find one case of adults accusing their parents of sexual abuse that was backed up by corroborating evidence." I told Gardner I found 700 cases in 15 minutes that were backed up by medical records, school records, and police reports. His answer was, "Well, we researched this the best we could over two years, and we never found any such cases." I said, "Well, here's a list of 700 of them. Are you going to publish it in TSI?" And his answer was, "We've moved on to other subjects." Then I reeeeeeeeeeaaaaally let him have it about him and Randi being my heroes. He mumbled some excuses about big money taking over CSICOP and TSI. Alternet ended up not publishing the interview/article because of massive pressure from the "donors" at CSICOP. And theeeeeeeen it turned out Randi and Gardner were pederasts themselves. IIRC, it turned out they were both members of NAMBLA and Randi was currently facing charges for stalking a 14-year-old boy.
Anyhoo, looking back on it, I suddenly realized something--the "experts" they were quoting (and who were testifying for the defense in some of these trials) must have learned about the idea of "planting false memories" from SOMEWHERE. Know what I mean? And all of this started right after the murder of JonBenet Ramsey. IIRC, some of the same "experts" were involved in police questioning of Burke Ramsey. My notes are looooooooooooooooong gone, but I'll see if I can find the names of those "experts."
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Post by elantric on Oct 18, 2020 9:13:49 GMT -6
This is a video shot in 1994. It presents a widely vilified & disparaged viewpoint within the LGBT community. This group was officially banned from marching in the official 1994 Pride Parade in NYC. Tom Reeves died in either 2013 or 2012.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 18, 2020 18:17:18 GMT -6
"LBGTQ" activist and NAMBLA spokesman Harry Hay use to play the organ at OTO rituals. The gay pride parades and organizations like NAMBLA went hand in hand in the 70s-the early 90s before people started reporting on what those organizations really were. In reality it's one of the goals of gay rights to lower the age of consent, it always has been. In the 70s and 80s young teenagers were always a part of the gay scene in New York, California, Chicago etc. the police turned a blind eye to most of the activity, that's when people like John Paul Ranieri use to hustle at the stone wall inn at 14 years old, and cops could care less.
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