Notes from the Way Back

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: info recieved

I am not in AZ. I have lived in Quincy for the past 25 years. If I recall correctly Marty said Bo's name was John BobeBe and he had a sister that lived in Nappa Ca at that time. Bo was suppsosed to be transferred to the state hospital in Nappa but instead, Marty brought him back here to Quincy from the VA hospital in Reno. Marty was born in Tracy Tenn. He has a brother (last i know in Phoenix)and a sister,father aunts&uncles,also in Phoenix. His mother used to live Yuma Az. Bo was quite a bit older than Marty. At the time of murders my guess is he was around 60. As to sidetrack his story was aired on A&E on American Justice. I knew him a little bit when he lived in Quincy because he dated my ex-step-daughter for awhile. I don't believe he is a suspect. Marty was in the Army and served 2 tours in Viet Nam. That's when the drug use started. It is also true that he has a daughter(Michelle akaMissy, a son Johnny(I believe) and 2 other children. I don't recall his ex-wifes name). His children were in the foster care system for awhile. This was in Salem Or. The only place I can think of that has a picture of Marty after Keddie is in a chico paper. College paper or Chico paper. He was refered to as the Town Crier who stood on the street corner with all kinds of news. The picture is a full body, dressed like the old day pilgram age, holding a paper in the air. Dee Lake should this picture to me years ago (1984-85?). This is all I can remember at this time, sorry. Feel free to ask questions.


Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:a few questions for gypsey

Marty did hate women and yes he did take it out on me and my kids. He did'nt hurt me or my kids physicallly but he was very cruel in other ways. He threatened me with a shot gun one time for example. My daughter did'nt like him, trust him and she was terrified of him. She eventually ran away to Oregon, just before the murders and I let her stay. My mother lived up there as well as her biological father. To my knowledge, he did not have a criminal past, at least no cobictions. He did use drugs however but it hidden from me. He did'nt do them in front of me,except pot. His durg habbit started during his second tour in Viet Nam. Marty did'nt like teenagers as he thought they were smart alecs (a nice way of putting it(,hence Johnny fell into this catagory. He and johnny had words several times. When I first met Marty he was involved with his kids. They even lived with us for a short period of time. They were out of control. Missy (his daughter)was spoiled by him as he thought she was extremely smart. Street smart that is, he used her in some of his escapades. Johnny, his oldest son was prone to violence ie: he hit his little brother in the head with a hammer one time. Like father like son I guess. I should'nt say that but... They were put in a fost home for awhile because Linda was on drugs. Marty and Linda were ordered to pay the state back, Marty did'nt to my knowledge. The kids never referred to Marty as dad,just by his name. I thought that a little strange. In the beginning I was hoodwinked by Marty ( a rose everyday) what girl turns that charm down, I was young and dumb .


Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: a few questions for gypsey

Salem Marty did crank (in the past it was called speed) and something call black beauties. It was not Marty and John who had words, it was Marty and Jan (one of the owners wive's) She was Dougs wife. As to my daughter I don't know why Marty called her but it was a week or two after. She just didn't like him and was afraid of him,so she ran away. She started having problems with Marty when we lived in Burney,before we moved to Keddie. To all on the board. I have a question. Are we trying to solve this case and keep our minds open to the possibility that Marty and Bo are not guilty? What" if," and thats a big "if," the quilty party is still out there? I feel the video that Josh made, needs to be put on National TV. It was 25 years ago and people move around. Maybe someone,somwhere, has talked about this case. I'm going to keep my mind open for self protection as well as my son's.




guitarplayer; you seem to want to be Shiela's advisor and protector, let me ask you this. Don't you think it would be better for her to finally know for sure who did this to her family? You say you would like to see her on a talk show. Boy Howdy!! Now, there is where there will be a lot of questions asked! Is she just going to
sit there blank? I don't think so, if she really truely wants help.




Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: a few questions for gypsey

tend to agree with both of you. I know there were other suspects in this case. I'm not talking about Cuck Walke, or the other person mentioned in the site.

Does anyone know a Leanard Mosely? Supposedly he was a police officer who used to live in Keddie


Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: love boat

The tv was in the living room, I think it was on when I stopped in. I did'nt see any kids. Justin said John and Dana were not there when the four of them were eating popcorn and watching Love Boat.

I think we should consider the possibility that Tina became a target. When a bunch of us went out to Keddie in April, I alone talked to the caretaker. He mentioned that his suspicions were on James Seabolt Sr. That he was into little girls and hid underware in the little fire house (fire hose is kept)in front of his cabin. I was shocked to say the least. I later asked richards mother if this was true. She said, "Yes". I know that the Seabolts are now divorced. And I know that there were some sexual issues with James Seabolt Jr. in 1984 or 1986. I have talked to the person that took him to court. She said he just got a slap on the wrist, and she was beaten up in school by his friends. I will not divulge her name.

Remember it was James Seabolt Sr. that removed the boys from the bedroom window.


Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: how many killers

Maybe it was just one person. Justin said (phone call on easter) that he thought they were in the closet,at any rate, I know you (DM)don't like tv but I A&ETV has the shows like cold case files and forensic files. Those are true crimes. I have seen cases on there, where one person gained control of whole families. If that person knew Sue, she would have let that person in. John and Dana could have heard an arguement and went up-stairs to see what was going on, if they were in the basement.

The Tina thread, Shiela told me, she remembers her mom getting into a dispute with James over something. Ahe could'nt recall just when, but thought it had something to do with Tina.
However, lets not get tunnel vision again, and start jumping to conclusions. That what I did 25 years ago, and it has only caused fear and pain.

Oh, I almost forgot, the reason I mentioned Oroville is, maybe, Sue knew someone from there. That was my thinking at the time.

just pondering....


Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:25 am Post subject: love boat

Question If Tina was the intended target, why not grab her outside? What was the need to kill 3 people, leave 3 people, and make off with Tina? Shiela did not mention the name of the guy Sue had a discussion with over Tina. And she does'nt remember when this happened. I just assumed that she was talking about James Seabolt Sr. In, thinking about that, he would have just molested Tina, but I don't feel he was capable of murder.

Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: love boat

It seems that I have opened a can of worms here. I repeat... It was a misunderstanding on my part about Shiela saying that it was James Seabolt that her mom was having a dispute with. She does'nt remember who it was nor when it was. I apologize.



Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: guilty

When I watched the film, I was blown away at what Zanita Seabolt said. She talked about all the comings and goings at the Sharp cabin. I never noticed anything like that, and it could have been a question that Josh asked her to make her react like she did. However, she was a strict Morman, so if they do judge us like DMac said (dirty gentiles), then I can see where she would get that idea. James Seabolt was not a Morman but as I said she was a very strict one. James just kind of stayed out of her way and she did more taking care of other families than she did her own, (house work and such). There marriage ended in divorce, so I've been told.

pp~; Do you know what or who Doug T's assumptions were?


Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: guilty

I'm sorry DMac It's just when you mentioned it, it made me recall what Zanita said on the film It is correct that she did'nt allow her kids to have a sleepover at outsiders home's, but an outsider(not Morman)could spend the night with them anytime. However my youngest son, and her youngest daughter were very good friends. They were 7 and he was allowed to stay the night, but after a little while, he was not allowed to do that anymore. This was because he was a boy, and it upset both the kids.

As to the reporter, I agree with blueskeyes. But the editor needs to find the guts to correct her articles, or whomever does that.


Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: getting back to the facts

The people you would like to have on this board and should be on this board, ( the Meeks and Shiela) will not post. The truth hurts and they want hang Marty out to dry. That's all I heard from them when they took me out of Keddie! Marty did it! Marty did it!! Marty did it!!! I became blind and had their memories and not my own. That's why I'm hear! To help if I can, to think for myself and hopefully be of some help to others.


Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: outside the box

Does anyone know a Henry Thomas? I was told today that he was a suspect and is now living with a girl from Keddie. This girl lived in Keddie at the time of the murders.

I was told by Shiela herself, that the cops do not keep her very well informed, I felt this quite odd. That is why I posted what I did about her and her family (Ricky and Greg), should be pushy with PCSD. No harm intended:
God bless... gypsey

ps; I also agree Justin should try harder to remember.