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Post by kmik on Jul 15, 2018 20:23:29 GMT -6
It has long been assumed that Johnny's bedroom was in the basement. We have no report stating which room was Johnny's only what Sheila told in the documentary (not saying I think she lied, just not sure if the basement was where he actually slept). Many have long questioned the absence of photos of the basement and see it as part of the "conspiracy" that the basement was not searched and photos were not taken. My thoughts are that either they did search the basement and there was nothing to photograph or they took pictures and maybe Josh took them or they are in the files and have been overlooked much like the Butte County 911 tape.
The Stoy Report described 28 as an "eight room wood frame residence" which would indicate they knew about the basement (living room, kitchen, bathroom, girl's room, boy's room, back porch room, and the basement had 2 rooms. The report states that for 6 days following the murders they searched and collected evidence from inside and outside the cabin. There is little doubt that the basement was searched.
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Post by raemen2 on Jul 17, 2018 5:06:02 GMT -6
Agree, it's nonsensical to believe that the basement was not searched - IMO, immediately after it was understood that Tina was missing. Even if LE was that bumbling not to come up with that idea on their own, certainly, Shelia, Don and an assortment of other adults on the scene might suggest the basement as a starting point in the search. It's also hard to believe that LE did not photograph the basement, irrelevant of what was/ was not found there.
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Post by kmik on Jul 17, 2018 13:52:11 GMT -6
So true. I think it's important to sift through speculation. The Stoy Report indicated 8 rooms (that would include the basement) so they knew it was there. Just because we don't see a crime scene photo doesn't mean it wasn't taken. How many years was wasted on speculation that the Butte 911 tape was missing only to be found right before the anniversary write up in the Plumas News and before ID filmed the show? They were looking for Tina all over so to believe they didn't check all 8 rooms is a bit absurd.
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 28, 2018 20:52:48 GMT -6
Wasn't the hot water heater in the basement? We know they checked it for a license #
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Post by karis on Jul 29, 2018 18:39:04 GMT -6
Yes snoho you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.
On 5-1-81, Sgt. Stoy checked the hot water heater under the Sharp residence. No license number was scratched on it.
The Stoy report said they search inside and outside that cabin for six days.
4-18-81 Dress found UNDER Cabin 28 by DOJ Bradley
I feel sure there are pictures of the basement of that house. Maybe Mike G has not shared those with Dmac but there has to be pictures. We've never seen pictures of the bathroom but we know they exist.
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 4, 2018 21:54:17 GMT -6
So all these documentaries, ghost hunters, amateur detectives visited 28 before it was torn down, and not a one of them checked out the basement or took pics!? Teens dared each other to go in, partied there and no one's seen the basement? !!
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Post by kmik on Aug 5, 2018 18:12:02 GMT -6
A picture of it is in Josh's book.
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 6, 2019 21:42:48 GMT -6
"found #6451 on window sill where John used to sleep, saw wht/grn Blazer at Krois', daughter found clothing in river" I haven't killed this horse enough I guess, could that be part of a license plate number?
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Post by karis on Aug 13, 2019 5:49:01 GMT -6
Snoho that could have been part of a license plate, phone number, ect. I am sure the police checked this out. If the information produced anything important we don't know. We also don't know when it was put there or who put it there. I don't think Johnny, Dana or Sue had time to do this. The only person who left that cabin once the killer(s) entered was Tina.
Phillip Shearer
" At one time he was hiding under the house and he scratched the license number from the pick-up onto the hot water heater. Phillip told of a long fight that ended up at Ganser Airport, where he got away. The three men still had Tina."
The police did not find anything written or scratched on the Sharps' water heater.
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 29, 2019 8:03:26 GMT -6
Nothing scratched into the hot water tank, but there was a number scratched in the basement windowsill
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Post by kmik on Dec 29, 2019 9:51:27 GMT -6
That's right Soho 6451. When Phillip said he was under the house he implied he was under 28. The same wording used to describe where the dress was found "under Cabin28'. I know it was a basement but there was no access to it in the house.
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 31, 2019 9:19:54 GMT -6
But--where's the report on the search of the basement? We have the detailed report on the upstairs. Where's the report on the basement? Johnny had to keep his clothes somewhere. And we only "know" that the water heater was inspected AFTER Phillip's confession.
It's equally foolish to assume that the basement WAS searched, or that it WASN'T searched. The bloody fingerprint on the post near the basement door wasn't found for several days, and then, it wasn't found by police.
It's vital to remember that we simply don't know. In this case, there is an awfully long list of things we simply don't know. We know we can't trust the timelines. We know lots of reports and other documents are not available to us.
But I'm telling you, the answer to the question, "Did police search the basement that first weekend?" is: We don't know. And that's all we know.
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 9, 2020 23:39:30 GMT -6
A picture of it is in Josh's book. Does anyone have access to this?
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Post by kmik on Jan 10, 2020 7:24:45 GMT -6
It's a pic that Josh had in his book of the basement in 2002 - not at the time of the murders. I'll have to get it from book to computer so that may take me a little time.
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Post by jdub on Jan 10, 2020 9:12:37 GMT -6
What are these??
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