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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 12, 2019 5:49:41 GMT -6
Also--a key part of the description of the guy arguing with Sue was that he his legs looked too short for his body--and THAT'S Gamberg. this argument took place within a day or two of Gamberg getting fired--again--for taking home a gun confiscated from a suspect. It's pretty easy to deduce what happened. Gamberg was showing it off to his sons and their buddies. That included Johnny. Johnny told his mom. sue called the police. Gamberg got fired. Gamberg came around to Cabin 28 to confront Sue about it.
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Post by kay on Dec 12, 2019 21:09:06 GMT -6
Please excuse my ignorance of all the PON because honestly there is a million and three of them and I have a hard time keeping up lol, but I thought I had heard or read somewhere that a theory was Richard or wade Meeks was involved? How or why would they be involved? Also I had assumed that was her husband but I’m just now hearing that Glenna was a single mother? I had no idea. So how did they know about all this information about bloody shoes that Marty burned and blood on sues car (that ended up not being true). Does anyone know what happened to sue’s car and if it was tested?
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Post by kmik on Dec 12, 2019 22:42:37 GMT -6
Kay the PON list can be very confusing with all of those names. The Meeks joined a forum after the first documentary and got themselves involved which ultimately made people question if Richard could have been involved (because he was the father of Sheila's baby that was given up for adoption - Glenna admitted in an outtake that I've never seen only read - that she was upset with Sue about the adoption). Certainly the police considered him also. Wade's possible involvement to me would be from him hanging out with Phillp that night and Phillip later claiming to have been there (Phillip was a cousin to the Meeks kids). Also Wade was seeing Marilyn and was supposedly friends with Marty (not sure how that is considered friend if he was seeing Marty's wife but oh well). No doubt the police should have looked at Richard, Wade, and Charles Meeks.
Glenna was divorced from the Meeks man when she landed in Quincy with her sister Barbara (Phillip's mom). She always talked on the forum of "her ex Jim", from Cottonwood, whom she picked up and brought to Quincy with her a few weeks before the murders - this was not the father of Charles, Wade, Richard, Walter or LaRhonda. We have no idea who he was or if he even existed at that time because according to her he went to Keddie that morning to cut wood with Marty and saw Marty burning shoes. Then she later told of Marty standing across from her house, the week after the murders, threatening them and Jim having to sit at the door with a gun. There is no report or statement of any shoe burning in the case files that we have - and if Marty's name was on it I'd find it hard to believe Josh didn't use it. The shoe burning and blood on car were things told years later on the documentary so it's very important to disregard a lot of the junk that was "told" on the documentaries as "fact".
The problem with the shoe burning, and the street yelling is that Jim the ex is not on the PON list (as far as we've researched) and if he was there at the time of the murders I'm pretty sure the police would have talked to him, at some point, since the Meeks were supposedly so close to the Sharps.
Richard was the one that said blood was on the car (and could have been but that's something we don't know). I think the Meeks enjoyed their time of "fame" until it bit them. Go to YouTube Keddie Murders: Richard Meeks - Blood on the car
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 13, 2019 6:21:10 GMT -6
Also, when Wade said they didn't see the boys on their way home from square dance practice at the college, he had to be lying. For one thing, someone called Sue from the Meeks home as soon as Wade and the boys got home and told her than Johnny was bringing Dana home.
So far as "burning a pair of shoes" in a pile of leaves is concerned, Glenna Meeks also insisted it was pouring down rain that day. It wasn't. It was a bright sunny day. Sooooo...And she supposedly drove all the way to Phoenix to pick up "Jim" and bring him all the way back to Keddie. For what? Where did he go? He didn't get a job there. Nobody else in town ever saw him. Marty couldn't possibly have gone "woodcutting" with him that day, let alone in the pouring rain. He just helped Marty burn a pair of shoes and then vanished into thin air.
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Post by kay on Dec 13, 2019 21:37:41 GMT -6
Weird coincidence but I am re listening to the podcast to go through things I’ve missed (I have to do this a lot because I’m extremely add lol) and right as I’m reading both of your replies I hear about wade Meeks and Marty in jail and that wade was sleeping with Marilyn. At this point, if reality TV was around in the 80s this entire town would get their own damn show. What is it with all the adults in this town either sleeping with children (tinas teacher, her molester, Dana and his “girlfriend”) or sleeping with people who are barely legal? This whole thing is so baffling to me. Is this the only way we know about wade sleeping with marilyn or was it kind of known around town at the time and everyone just kept it a secret?
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Post by kay on Dec 14, 2019 2:10:04 GMT -6
I have been looking through the forum for about 30 minutes and can’t seem to find the PON list that I thought was posted before? Was there even one posted and I’m just making this up? Lol if it’s out there can someone please direct me
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Post by camfaults on Dec 14, 2019 2:34:34 GMT -6
These Keddie folks did a lot of finger-pointing, especially Glenna Meeks and Marilyn Smartt. I would like to know more about Glenna Meeks' ex Jim. Was he an ex-husband or a common-law type of "ex"?
So far, from the information I've read, I think Phillip Shearer should have been looked at more for his involvement in the murders. I don't think there was a cover-up by Plumas County Sheriff. If the PCSO was involved, I doubt they would have called in the DOJ. I would like to know more about the drug-dealing that was going on at the Arcade. Was this why Johnny was spending every Friday night at Richard Meeks' house? I am suspicious of Glenna Meeks' phone call to Sue Sharp on the night of April 11. Did Glenna Meeks ever call to inform her of the boys' whereabouts before? Did Johnny Sharp have a curfew? How long had Johnny known Richard Meeks? Did their friendship start before or after Richard impregnated 13-year-old Sheila Sharp?
I keep re-listening to Horan's podcast too, Kay. They did a great job!
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Post by kmik on Dec 14, 2019 18:42:41 GMT -6
Kay the PON list is under "Police Documents" - "Known Statements to Police by Persons of Note". According to Glenna the Meeks had been friends with the Shapes for awhile - she and Sue met each other because their kids were friends. I think the Meeks and Sharp kids were very close even Joel Lipsy made reference to that when he talked to the police.
According to a report Johnny had ran away from home a month before the murders.
Tom, good thought on Wade getting home around the time the phone call was made to Sue's but we don't know if Wade told the police he saw the boys or not on his way home because we've never read his statement.
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Post by kay on Dec 14, 2019 22:08:38 GMT -6
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I am also re watching the documentaries (but keeping in mind everything that has been said about them) and am also noticing that someone identified wade as one of the sketches and said he was a weird guy. It seems like everyone knows something. This is very frustrating
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Post by jmo on Dec 18, 2019 15:36:10 GMT -6
Mickley, David K. Treated Plumas District Hospital for cut hand 4/12/81 due to fight with friend "Lynch" (Shanks/Stoy) When did Richard Meeks meet up with David Figueiro at the arcade? Richard said he was with Steve Durham and Mike Hamilton. When did this knife fight take place? Mickley was 27 years old, right? A knife fight? Angus Lynch would have mentioned that to Meeks, right? Meeks mentions blood on Sue's car but either doesn't know or doesn't say anything about Mickley and Figueiro getting in a knife fight that sends Mickley to the hospital? I would think that would be big news. Anyone know if Richard mentioned this in all his rumering around?
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Post by jdub on Feb 14, 2020 22:03:11 GMT -6
What a strange obituary. It fails to list her parents, predeceased siblings, spouse. For all the praise it gives Glenna about her seven children, it fails to list them by name as her surviving family members. As a genealogist, I will tell you that this is a unique obituary. Should we assume she was on the outs with her children? Should we assume they are all so shady they didn't want their names published? A lot of info was omitted to leave a glowing review of the life of Glenna Meeks.
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Post by jdub on Feb 14, 2020 22:30:14 GMT -6
I found a sad article: Feather River Bulletin.09/06/2017.page19 (Searched "Shearer") Maybe someone can get the article text or image posted here.
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Post by jdub on Feb 14, 2020 22:42:42 GMT -6
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Post by kmik on Feb 15, 2020 17:44:23 GMT -6
That is the saddest thing to me especially knowing she was so close to her sister! My mom had Alzheimer's for years before she died in 2018 and no doubt Glenna was suffering from it or something similar.
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Post by jdub on Feb 15, 2020 19:06:45 GMT -6
Thank You Kmik!! I did hesitate to post it, but,( my apologies to the family), I decided to. Sad indeed! Thanks.
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