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Tina
Jan 4, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -6
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Post by kmik on Jan 4, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -6
I believe (just my opinion) that she told the truth of how she discovered them in 1981. Most definitely the trauma of what she saw combined with what she found out later were what she told in later years. As for what she told in the book I think she and her husband threw the book together very quickly on the heels of the last documentary. I don't believe that Sheila told the police anything that might make her family look bad (in her defense she probably felt that she was protecting their memory but that doesn't help to solve murders). I've said this for years and may be oh so wrong but she is the only one who has ever seemed to want to see this solved.
The story she told in her book of Jaime going inside stepping over bodies - who knows- maybe her husband convinced her to embellish that part? Jamie first said he went in the back door only to change his story to say he never went inside. There was no need to step over the bodies since there was plenty of walking room between the bodies and the wall/furniture.
It's been years since Karis and I got hooked on this case. Since then and a whole lot of going over the info we have just confirms to me that a lot of people in the documentaries were weaving a whole lot of speculation together with very old memories. Regardless of what the documentaries got wrong I still love to watch them! |
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Tina
Jan 8, 2020 1:29:53 GMT -6
Post by camfaults on Jan 8, 2020 1:29:53 GMT -6
I wonder if there was any jealousy between the sisters. Having a baby at 13 had to be scary and confusing. I still have a hard time with Sue sending her away. Sending a pregnant girl away from home to have her baby sounds so 1950s. That's what parents did when they wanted to hide the pregnancy from neighbors to prevent gossip, etc. Another issue to consider is Sheila's state of mind after the pregnancy and separation from her child. Was she suffering from postpartum depression?
Has law enforcement ever provided a reason for why Tina stayed home that Saturday morning while Sue drove Sheila, Ricky, Greg and Jamie into Quincy? And, why did Sheila go visit Alice Thompson while her mother was at the Meeks residence? Did she not want to see Richard? Or were the mothers discussing something they did not want their children to hear?
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Post by kmik on Jan 8, 2020 7:40:53 GMT -6
Girls are nowhere near maturity at the age of 13 and I think that Sue most definitely did the best thing sending her off to give the baby up for adoption. I can't remember if she stayed at a home or at Jackie's but either way she was in Oregon where Jackie was so she wasn't alone she was near family (just a few years earlier they had lived with Jackie for almost a year). I know she said in her book that Sue took her to Oregon in November and in December Sue had her take the bus home for Christmas and in February Sue went there when she had the baby (she was only gone 3 months). I'm sure she mourned to some degree for the baby she left but when she came home her life pretty much went back to normal no baby to take care of and no one asking questions.
I'm sure the police know why Tina stayed home that morning but we don't know. Maybe Sheila only went along to see Alice who lived just across the road from the Meeks? No mention of Johnny or Richard being at the Meeks house that morning and Johnny had spent the night with Richard so it's possible Sue went there to pick him up. If she really didn't want Sheila going around the Meeks she could have left her to babysit Tina but she didn't. I can't imagine there not being some hard feelings either way when Sheila got pregnant but Johnny was still spending every Friday night at the Meeks house and Richard and Walter were seen several time at the Sharps house in Keddie according to Mr. Seabolt (we've all seen the pic of Richard and Johnny playing cards at the kitchen table of 28). |
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Post by kay on Jan 8, 2020 14:38:02 GMT -6
Johnny knew that Sheila was pregnant, but did Sheila or Sue ever tell the kids the father was Richard? Could explain why Johnny wasn’t upset that his 15 year old friend got his 13 year old sister pregnant when apparently he was always sticking up for the family and getting into trouble
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Tina
May 23, 2020 11:48:00 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 11:48:00 GMT -6
Rewatched keddie28's YouTube video posted of Sue's sister's interview.
I thought it was interesting that she mentioned that Tina was taking medication for hyperactivity, but she stopped taking the medication.
From the interview, Sue's sister says she did not believe that Tina was hyperactive.
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Tina
Aug 19, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 10:53:17 GMT -6
May 6, 2018 10:26:17 GMT -4 kmik said: 9:00 – 9:30 pm Tina asked James Seabolt, Sr, what time it was and then she went home, stated Seabolt. Approximate time: 9:30 - 9:40 (copied/pasted from kmik's previous forum post) Although people have speculated who sent or why Tina went home on, I found it interesting that Tina asked Mr. Seabolt what time was it, then left the Seabolt's to go home. Does anyone have Mr. S's timeline? What time did he leave to cut firewood? When did he return from cutting firewood? Where did he go to cut firewood? Did C.W. and H.T. possibly see Mr. S. at the store when they were leaving Keddie? Was he a carpenter? Did Shelia mention that her mother had a disagreement w/ Mr. S.? Were there rumors about Mr. S.? |
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Tina
Aug 19, 2020 15:23:25 GMT -6
Post by karis on Aug 19, 2020 15:23:25 GMT -6
810411-2130a/b Tina asked James Seabolt, Sr, what time it was and then she went home, stated Seabolt. Approximate time: 9:30-9:40
Good point jsusang!! I had forgot that. So unless Mr. Seabolt lied Tina left going back home around 9:30.
SEABOLT, JAMES (SR)
Went wood cutting 4/12/81 before crime discovered, heard nothing night before, see Vicky Rhodes, found #6451 on window sill where John used to sleep, saw wht/grn Blazer at Krois', daughter found clothing in river
<CRIM>/<FORCINO>/ <SHAVER>
It is on the forum somewhere that he left around 4:30am or 5:00am. I just can't find it right now. He was the caretaker (i guess that what you would call it) so yes he was a carpenter.
There was something said about Sue having an argument with him but i'm not sure who it came from so i would discount that.
Good thought about CW and HT. Never thought about that. He definitely left Keddie early that morning according to him. But then Sheila tells in her book the Jamie and his FATHER got the boys out of the window. Who do you believe?
Martel Grimm said in the documentary that she "thought it was James Seabolt. He had a thing with a couple of girls going on down there".
But the FRB reportS an incident with James Sr. for an underage girl. Then the paper retracts it saying it was Jr. So i'm not sure if it was really Sr. or Jr.
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