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Post by kmik on Apr 26, 2018 19:46:20 GMT -6
I think that's the most important thing - we have no idea what Sheila or any of the others (besides Marty and Bo) said. We really don't even know what Marilyn said to the police other than the report but that's not her full statement. We have what she posted on the forum years later (which really amounted to nothing). WHY IS THAT? All we can base our opinions on is what we have and question what we lack.
I've never been interested in the EAR case until yesterday. What really shocked me is that this guy was never on their radar. It's obvious in the Keddie case the police have no real evidence - if so I don't think they would blow their case by revealing what little they have. All they can do is theorize and beg for somebody to come forward. Maybe eventually somebody will.
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Post by raemen2 on Apr 27, 2018 5:52:21 GMT -6
My thoughts are that putting some theories to rest lay in the evidence or lack of evidence LE found in Johnny's bedroom....nothing about that area of the cabin has been seen, leaked, stolen (or whatever that convoluted mess is). Reasons?
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 5, 2020 20:59:57 GMT -6
Im wondering where the story of sheila and Alyssa wanting to sneak out came from? If they did want to sneak out, why sleep in the living room and not the basement? Were they worried Tina would tell?
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Post by kmik on Mar 5, 2020 21:37:39 GMT -6
Just speculation I’ve never read that in any report.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 7:27:53 GMT -6
Did Shelia see the green van that was reported in Dmac's Timeline C by the Seabolt daughters at 9:00 p.m. on April 11, or was she at home? In the timeline, Alysa also reports seeing the green van. SEABOLT, PAULA Saw Sue with Josephson Sat., saw green van front Sharp's @ 2100, sister (Pearl) saw van too, saw green van front Sharp's 4/11/81 <STOY>/<CRIM> Hi, kmik! What is the EAR case?
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Post by snoho17 on Mar 6, 2020 21:30:15 GMT -6
EAR= east area rapist
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Post by kmik on Mar 6, 2020 21:44:39 GMT -6
Yes and I know absolutely nothing about the EAR.
Jsu, I think many of us have wondered if Sheila also saw the green van parked near her house. She was with the Seabolt girls and it appears that all 3 of the girls that she and Tina were with saw the van so I'd find it hard to believe she didn't notice it unless she had gone into her house (she said she went back about 10:00) so maybe they saw it while waiting outside of their house for her to come back (since supposedly the Sebolt girls were not allowed to go over to 28). It's possible Sheila ran over to 28 and back to the Seabolts and never noticed the van. Maybe it only became important to the Seabolt girls when they were questioned by the police. So many questions that we don't have an answer for but hopefully the police do.
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Post by snoho17 on Sept 25, 2020 21:26:19 GMT -6
So whats everyone's thinking on Dana believing he was the father of Sheila's baby? Who'd he tell that too? What kind of dynamic would that create between sharps,meeks,wingates? Or sheila and Alyssa? is there anything concrete about all this?
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Post by kmik on Sept 26, 2020 7:23:33 GMT -6
Truth - who knows but lets say it is: Sheila refered to Alyssa as her "new friend" in her book - Sheila had only been back for a few weeks and Alyssa, I'm sure, had heard all the "who's the daddy" gossip so I don't think that would have affected their new friendship IF Alyssa was really seeing Dana.
The Meeks? I guess my question would be why would they be mad at the Sharps? Because Sheila was giving up Richard's baby or because Sheila was blaming the pregnancy on Richard when there was a chance it was Dana's? I know Josh posted a deleted interview with the Meeks for the documentary and Glenna said, "I was upset with Sue about that", (which I'm guessing meant her making Sheila give the baby up). BUT then we have to remember that by the time of the documentary Sheila's baby was grown and had been reunited with them - so I think Glenna wanted this child to think that Sue made Sheila give her up but that she, Glenna, wanted her all along. There's no indication to me in the information that we have that the Sharps and Meeks had quit being friends (Johnny stayed over there all the time even when Sue was going back and forth to Oregon, and Richard and Walter were seen at the Sharps in Keddie.)
Since Dana didn't live at home the Wingates probably knew nothing about the rumors. Dana already had a baby and I wonder if he even knew or had contact with that child. Most 16 year old boys are not giddy to find out they might possibly be the father of a baby to be. Dmac doesn't seem to be releasing anything but Mike Gamberg's "Notes". Does he really have anyone's interview - and I'm talking paper - not cassette tape?
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Post by kmik on Nov 29, 2020 21:24:35 GMT -6
Dmac recently posted this question:
I'll be the first to say that I believe Sheila said many things while posting on the forums that was very misleading but I don't think she ever said she left 28 with no belongings whatsoever (if she did I don't remember reading it). Ricky insinuated that he did on the cabin walk through but not Sheila. They may have left 28, for the week after the murders without anything, but I highly doubt they left for Oregon without anything (Aunt Jackie already had 6 children of her own to clothe). Where did Dmac think all those photos came from?
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Post by kmik on Dec 1, 2020 19:36:46 GMT -6
Not sure if Sheila ever said that these writings were before the murders but from what Josh wrote in his book, the date she wrote on the assignment, and what she wrote in the poem seem to indicate that they were written after the murders.
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 9, 2020 18:48:56 GMT -6
Kmik, agreed.
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Post by snoho17 on Apr 29, 2021 22:42:58 GMT -6
Sheila does mention her foster family in the above, so I found it odd she put her brother with "bullies" in her fears. After he's dead that's still how she views him? I'd think "normal" sibling rivalries would be forgotten and forgiven after a horrible murder. Also, Alyssa+Dana bugs the hell out of me still. It was her who said they were dating, and could only see each other at the Sharps. Yet Zonita seemed pretty adement about keeping her kids from the Sharp house. I just can't see zonita being ok at all with Dana! Destructive, on probation, impregnated at least one girl, "ladies man". No F'n way.
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Post by kmik on Apr 30, 2021 4:27:11 GMT -6
Unless Zonita didn't know who he was but lets face it if Frank Davis knew Dana used to visit Judith Lynt's cabin, next to the Sharps, I'd find it hard that Zonita didn't notice Dana at Judith’s . I feel like Zonita had her eye on everyone.
As for Alyssa dating Dana I'm just not sure because we've only heard that from Cathy Zimmerman and Alyssa. Sheila said in her book that Alyssa thought Johnny was cute and he is who they talked about that night. Maybe Sheila had no clue Alyssa liked Dana but if the Sharps place was the only place Alyssa and Dana could meet I'd find it hard to believe, if true, that Sheila didn't know.
Oh, and Kathy Beckley thought Alyssa had some connection to Dana enough to believe that Alyssa had a locket Kathy had given to Dana (love to know the story behind all of that).
This is all a confusing, twisted, mess!
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Post by raemen2 on May 31, 2021 11:31:56 GMT -6
What I find most interesting in the poem is ‘real dad’ written under today. What exactly was the relationship between Jim and his surviving children after the murders? The way I read the poem it seems like a thought of endearment and NOT a cold criminal toxic relationship.
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