Post by karis on Mar 20, 2018 6:26:22 GMT -6
This statement comes from another forum:
Here are statements made to, or about Kathy B. I decided to put them in one place in order to see if I could follow the logic of the statement above. (I have trouble understanding how anyone (Kathy, her mother, or the "mutual friend") could keep their secret in 1981 with a twelve year old girl missing.
Timeline A: 5:50p.m.(Pat Dorris/Bradley)
Johnny and Dana left foster home after a visit to go to KATHY B. for a ride to Keddie
Ken Shanks report:
I talked to Kathleen Beckley. She told me on Saturday 4-11 Johnny and Dana were at her house. They were there from 6:30 to 7:00-7:30. Beckley said Johnny and Dana were planning to hitch hike to Keddie. Beckley tried to talk them into staying, but John said his mother was expecting them. She said both John and Dana were sober, they hadn't been drinking or smoking pot. Dana had a shot of insulin while he was at the Beckley house. The only thing they to drink, at the Beckley house, was a tab cola. Neither boy mentioned having any problems with anyone. BECKLEY TOLD ME THAT PAT DORRIS TOLD HER THAT DONNA WILLIAMS HAD GIVEN JOHN AND DANA A RIDE.
*She doesn't mention to Shanks the phone call from her mother to come to dinner nor that SHE knows who took the boys home.
Timeline A: 6:30-7:00p.m.(Kathy Beckley/Bradley)
Johnny Sharp and Dana Wingate arrived at Kathy Beckley's apartment in E. Quincy to get a ride to Keddie. Johnny had a week old black eye, and was wearing red bandana & Dana's blue vest. Dana gave himself an insulin shot while there. Neither were intoxicated.
Timeline A:7:30-7:40p.m.(Kathy Beckley/Bradley)
Beckley's mother called her for dinner & boys said they would hitchhike. Beckley/Bradley
Victimology report dated May 13, 1981
Wingate was recently becoming a "ladies man" with the girls @ school. He was rumored to be having sexual intercourse with a 27 year old unmarried woman in the Quincy area.
*Now it would seem that by May 13, 1981 Kathy would know that the police knew of her relationship with Dana. And we are to believe this information because "Marty shagging Sue" was attached to it? So what if he was, Sue seemed to be "shagging" a few. Kathy seemed to be in possession of information about Marty and Tina not Marty and Sue.
ASMUS, KAREN
K. Beckley said Tina pregnant and Martin Smartt was father
< BRADLEY>
CUDDIO, SHERRY
Denied telling Beckley Tina was pregnant
< BRADLEY>
PETTIS, TRISHA
Dated Dana, didn't know @ drug use, didn't tell Beckley that Tina was pregnant
< BRADLEY>/<FORCINO>
This is a report from Mean Kitty's forum. It was hand written and a little hard to read. I will copy as it was transcribed.
A: In reference to the aforementioned report re: Kathy's encounter with_______________giving him a puppy and his_______________ would eat it for supper _________ not a (l)ach . The conversation took place at FRC.
Kathy informed undersigned she had been told by Trish (pettis) who works at the Plumas Co Health Dept. & by Sherry C.(downtown trailer park) that Tina was pregnant.
B: Tina was pregnant ___________ stated she had been told by Beckley that Sgt Shanks had told Beckley that Tina was pregnant and that Martin (Smartt) was the father.
C: Space #6 Downtown Trailer park stated Kathy Beckley told her that Tina was pregnant Martin (Smartt) was responsible. Ausmus did not know Tina.
*Now if Kathy Beckley was credible in 1981, I would think Tina being pregnant by Marty was more important than "SUE SHAGGING MARTY". It just seems by reading these statements Kathy was the one spreading the "Tina was pregnant" story. Why? She couldn't have been jealous of a 12 yr old girl. After all, Dana had many girlfriends and a baby on the way.
Kathy/ her mother/ the mutual friend/ karl spang
Okay I will try to see if I can get all this straight. When Kathy couldn't give them a ride she told her mother who then called a mutual friend (the bartender ) to take them home.
LEPLEY, JUDY
Bartender Pioneer Bar, K. Spang not there on night of 187
< WRIGHT>
Don't know if Judy is the one who took the boys or not. We are not privy to that information for what ever reason. Karl Spang told his story and changed his story a couple of times. Why was he in Keddie in the first place? Karl did describe following a car into Keddie with a San Rafael license plate. I find that interesting because Kathy Beckley was from San Rafael. Her brother Ed, moved there in 1973 as a high school teacher. Her mother and father moved there in 1976. She had a child born in Quincy in 1977.
So we are supposed to believe that in 1981 Kathy Beckley told the police that Tina was pregnant by Marty Smartt and the bartender told in 1981 that Marty was shagging Sue but NEITHER one bothered to tell the police WHO took the boys home? And Mike Gamberg finds them credible?? Besides the anonymous letter to the school counselor these are the ONLY two people to link Marty Smartt with Sue and Tina.
"The reason I had difficulty believing the bartender's account of Sue shagging Marty is the mindblowing other shit she brought up. She gave John and Dana the ride to Keddie late Sat. Night. The reason it's been secret for 35 years is she didn't want to get Kathy B. in trouble for her affair with Dana."
Here are statements made to, or about Kathy B. I decided to put them in one place in order to see if I could follow the logic of the statement above. (I have trouble understanding how anyone (Kathy, her mother, or the "mutual friend") could keep their secret in 1981 with a twelve year old girl missing.
Timeline A: 5:50p.m.(Pat Dorris/Bradley)
Johnny and Dana left foster home after a visit to go to KATHY B. for a ride to Keddie
Ken Shanks report:
I talked to Kathleen Beckley. She told me on Saturday 4-11 Johnny and Dana were at her house. They were there from 6:30 to 7:00-7:30. Beckley said Johnny and Dana were planning to hitch hike to Keddie. Beckley tried to talk them into staying, but John said his mother was expecting them. She said both John and Dana were sober, they hadn't been drinking or smoking pot. Dana had a shot of insulin while he was at the Beckley house. The only thing they to drink, at the Beckley house, was a tab cola. Neither boy mentioned having any problems with anyone. BECKLEY TOLD ME THAT PAT DORRIS TOLD HER THAT DONNA WILLIAMS HAD GIVEN JOHN AND DANA A RIDE.
*She doesn't mention to Shanks the phone call from her mother to come to dinner nor that SHE knows who took the boys home.
Timeline A: 6:30-7:00p.m.(Kathy Beckley/Bradley)
Johnny Sharp and Dana Wingate arrived at Kathy Beckley's apartment in E. Quincy to get a ride to Keddie. Johnny had a week old black eye, and was wearing red bandana & Dana's blue vest. Dana gave himself an insulin shot while there. Neither were intoxicated.
Timeline A:7:30-7:40p.m.(Kathy Beckley/Bradley)
Beckley's mother called her for dinner & boys said they would hitchhike. Beckley/Bradley
Victimology report dated May 13, 1981
Wingate was recently becoming a "ladies man" with the girls @ school. He was rumored to be having sexual intercourse with a 27 year old unmarried woman in the Quincy area.
*Now it would seem that by May 13, 1981 Kathy would know that the police knew of her relationship with Dana. And we are to believe this information because "Marty shagging Sue" was attached to it? So what if he was, Sue seemed to be "shagging" a few. Kathy seemed to be in possession of information about Marty and Tina not Marty and Sue.
ASMUS, KAREN
K. Beckley said Tina pregnant and Martin Smartt was father
< BRADLEY>
CUDDIO, SHERRY
Denied telling Beckley Tina was pregnant
< BRADLEY>
PETTIS, TRISHA
Dated Dana, didn't know @ drug use, didn't tell Beckley that Tina was pregnant
< BRADLEY>/<FORCINO>
This is a report from Mean Kitty's forum. It was hand written and a little hard to read. I will copy as it was transcribed.
A: In reference to the aforementioned report re: Kathy's encounter with_______________giving him a puppy and his_______________ would eat it for supper _________ not a (l)ach . The conversation took place at FRC.
Kathy informed undersigned she had been told by Trish (pettis) who works at the Plumas Co Health Dept. & by Sherry C.(downtown trailer park) that Tina was pregnant.
B: Tina was pregnant ___________ stated she had been told by Beckley that Sgt Shanks had told Beckley that Tina was pregnant and that Martin (Smartt) was the father.
C: Space #6 Downtown Trailer park stated Kathy Beckley told her that Tina was pregnant Martin (Smartt) was responsible. Ausmus did not know Tina.
*Now if Kathy Beckley was credible in 1981, I would think Tina being pregnant by Marty was more important than "SUE SHAGGING MARTY". It just seems by reading these statements Kathy was the one spreading the "Tina was pregnant" story. Why? She couldn't have been jealous of a 12 yr old girl. After all, Dana had many girlfriends and a baby on the way.
Kathy/ her mother/ the mutual friend/ karl spang
Okay I will try to see if I can get all this straight. When Kathy couldn't give them a ride she told her mother who then called a mutual friend (the bartender ) to take them home.
LEPLEY, JUDY
Bartender Pioneer Bar, K. Spang not there on night of 187
< WRIGHT>
Don't know if Judy is the one who took the boys or not. We are not privy to that information for what ever reason. Karl Spang told his story and changed his story a couple of times. Why was he in Keddie in the first place? Karl did describe following a car into Keddie with a San Rafael license plate. I find that interesting because Kathy Beckley was from San Rafael. Her brother Ed, moved there in 1973 as a high school teacher. Her mother and father moved there in 1976. She had a child born in Quincy in 1977.
So we are supposed to believe that in 1981 Kathy Beckley told the police that Tina was pregnant by Marty Smartt and the bartender told in 1981 that Marty was shagging Sue but NEITHER one bothered to tell the police WHO took the boys home? And Mike Gamberg finds them credible?? Besides the anonymous letter to the school counselor these are the ONLY two people to link Marty Smartt with Sue and Tina.



