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Post by tinkryz5 on Jun 30, 2019 7:47:18 GMT -6
By the way I would like to know the birthplace of Sue, is it Rhode Island or Springfield Massachusetts? Because from what others say she came from rhode island then transferred to connecticut. But from wikipedia her birthplace was Springfield, Mass.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Jun 30, 2019 7:47:53 GMT -6
And that she came from a Military family too?
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Post by tinkryz5 on Jun 30, 2019 7:48:31 GMT -6
And even her birthday is it March 24 or March 29?
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 2, 2019 15:36:27 GMT -6
I can see that happening so if Sue at some point (which would more than likely be before she was bound) went over to Johnny (who would have been on the floor and possibly unconscious/dead) then I would think it was before she was attacked. This is all speculation that she went to Johnny or that she was forced over by the killer(s) but regardless of if she did or not she does have blood on the bottom of her feet (and enough that it was up between her toes) which seems to indicate she stepped into a puddle of blood at some point and this had to have happened before her ankles were bound (which probably means before she was gagged and her wrists bound also). Bare with me I know this is rambly but if she stepped into someone's blood (besides her own) that would mean that Johnny and Dana had already been attacked enough to bleed before she went into the living room - so it just appears to me that she walked into the living room and into this horror.
The theory of Marty and Bo initially attacking Sue in her bedroom because she was ruining his already ruined marriage is crazy.
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 2, 2019 15:45:29 GMT -6
Yeah I don't see why someone would lead sue to Johnny, to what end? But maybe she rushes over to help him, she's grabbed from behind by her biceps, is pulled up and back. Maybe her hands are already bound in front. Somehow she was coerced into being at least partly bound before defending herself. Blood on her soles, but on the bottom of Dana's shoes as well?
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Post by snoho17 on Feb 20, 2020 20:26:18 GMT -6
"Four stab wounds and a puncture type wound occur in the anterior chest." So what would differentiate a stab wound from a puncture wound, the weapon? Or how the wound was administered? The first wounds described seem superficial, not penetrating the subcutaneous fat layer. So do we have A) one person who had to work themselves up to the deeper stabbing or B) A "stronger" (or more experienced or more confident) person having to take over?
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Post by karis on Feb 21, 2020 5:54:00 GMT -6
"Four stab wounds and a puncture type wound occur in the anterior chest." So what would differentiate a stab wound from a puncture wound, the weapon? Or how the wound was administered? The first wounds described seem superficial, not penetrating the subcutaneous fat layer. So do we have A) one person who had to work themselves up to the deeper stabbing or B) A "stronger" (or more experienced or more confident) person having to take over?
Good question snoho. I could be A or B. Or it could be someone that was maybe torturing her.
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 8:50:52 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Jul 31, 2021 8:03:06 GMT -6
Does anyone out there have the entire autopsy diagrams saved? There used to be several pages of diagrams on Sue, Johnny & Dana available online. Josh & MK had them available on their sites. Thanks!
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Post by kmik on Jul 31, 2021 11:09:23 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Jul 31, 2021 13:44:38 GMT -6
Thanks Kmik! There used to be a lot more available online. This link on MKs forum has 6 pages of diagrams for Sue alone,but the attachments are no longer there : ( www.tapatalk.com/groups/keddiecoldcase/sue-sharp-s-autopsy-diagrams-complete-t96.htmlI noticed at least one of them was shown in the ID episode, tried to screenshot it but was unable to read the writing. Josh obviously obtained the full autopsy records on each victim. But guess what the only part of the autopsy has never been made public?...the toxicology reports. So many possibilities are blown off because a report no one has ever seen. There is a reason that report has never been published. Either it was something LE wanted to hold back or something Josh held back at the request of Sheila.
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Post by hope on Jul 31, 2021 13:50:18 GMT -6
Here is the one I tried to screenshot from ID. At least it gives a visual, although still hard to see: I want to read the notations the ME made on the diagrams. Not what is being said in the prevailing theory says. There are some obvious inaccuracies in there based on what the autopsy report actually says.
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Post by druthers on Jul 31, 2021 17:20:26 GMT -6
O, pray tell! I'd love to see what you've come up with! You see inaccuracies where the ME is correct? Priceless!
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Post by snoho17 on Jul 31, 2021 21:11:54 GMT -6
So right here, right now, go ahead and post a readable copy. Then you can school us all
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Post by hope on Aug 3, 2021 16:32:17 GMT -6
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