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Post by kmik on Sept 21, 2020 6:42:12 GMT -6
Dmac said in a recent post that Richard made this box at school and it had a hole in the top where someone had stepped on it and it doesn't appear to have a top in the pic. It's big enough to carry out a hamster but no matter if she took it or it was put back in it's cage this could be what started the whole thing and the cat could have even been part of it also.
Ricky described this box for police to draw this picture and apparently Richard Meeks told police that he (Richard) made the box at school and at some point gave it to Johnny. I don't believe Tina was ever attached to this "box" but maybe she was attached to whatever was put inside the box
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Post by raemen2 on Sept 21, 2020 7:03:11 GMT -6
Thank you, kmik.
Play along with me on this one... the pile of clothing (another stumper at the crime scene) perhaps an attempt to catch/ stop/ corral a hamster that was lose and running around the cabin?!
At the very least, the presence of animal hair on Johnny should/might indicate that he was on the main floor of the cabin when the violence started... he didn’t rush in from downstairs or walk in from being dropped off and was ambushed. Thoughts?
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Post by karis on Sept 21, 2020 8:36:01 GMT -6
great thought raemen. Now I don't know anything about hamsters. I would have to google them to find out! Do cats eat hamsters? Was it a game between the cat and hamster(s) the boys started? The clothing on the floor (meanie posted this way back and it made sense to me) looked like it was where someone emptied a gym bag on the floor. But i could have been used as you said.
I have never believed those boys were sleeping in that cold basement that night. (That was probably a hangout room. I don't believe Sue could afford to completely furnish the downstairs. But in the younger boys bedroom was a cot and bunkbeds.) Both boys had a laceration on the back of the head. They could have been knocked out quickly by one or more persons who picked up a hammer and hit them. Not intending to kill them just stop them. But then Sue woke up.
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Post by jdub on Sept 21, 2020 9:29:55 GMT -6
Wow. Maybe that is where the Hamster went!!
(Yes, a Cat would eat a Hamster)
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Post by kmik on Sept 21, 2020 10:23:24 GMT -6
Yes Ramen I think anything is possible and Jdub I too think a cat would eat or torment a hamster. This scenario would at least explain why there was a sudden uproar in the cabin that night. And yes Ramen someone was probably summoned to help and I think this is where the police get stumped - I believe they think this started within with the people already in 28 but they just can't nail down who came over to help.
Dmac may have to change the name of his book to : "In the Shadow of the Cat" or "Uncaged"
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Post by raemen2 on Sept 21, 2020 11:25:36 GMT -6
The first time I ever witnessed a parent other than mine get angry involved a gerbil ( bigger than a mouse, smaller than a hamster ). I was 12 and my neighbor had 2 gerbils ... we took them out of the cage to play and one of them tumbled from my friend’s hand. That little bugger took off like a bat outta
hell, ran into the kitchen and made a bee line for the fridge. There was a lot of screaming and crying (my friend and I) trying to catch it and a lot of cussing... her Dad trying to get the gerbil out from under the fridge without hurting it, which was a long and tedious process. Just saying... when you’re a kid and you love a pet, emotions can run high!
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 8:47:47 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:52:48 GMT -6
I believe this diagram is of Johnny based on his autopsy report:  "Beneath the wounds labeled 5 and 6 on the diagram on the left side of the individual's head exist 2 round depressed skull fractures. Each is 1/4 inch across, and they are connected by an isthmus of fracture which is also depressed and is approximately 1/4 inch wide. The depression of the superior fracture is 1/2 inch. Brain tissue is protruding from this superior fracture." |
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