Just started reading Dana's autopsy again. There's this:
The face and scalp show marked trauma. The left side of the head shows extending from just above the ear and anterior to posterior a dull red rectangle 4 1/4 x 1 inch in greatest dimension. This mark anteriorly shows a 1/2 circle mark which is 3/4 inch across.
The underlying scalp tissues show marked hemorrhage and a deep fracture line, irregular at its edges, follows roughly the elongated rectangle. It measures approximately 5 inches in length, and portions of bone have been loosened from this fracture and dangle from the scalp tissue after reflecting the scalp.
Extending upward from the anterior portion of this rectangle is another rectangle, this one 2-1/2 x 3/4 inch in greatest dimension. Its superior edge is a 5/8 inch semicircleof laceration in the anterior parietal region. A fracture line extends up to this semicircle zone from the major previously described fracture.
Previously, I'd focused on where it mentions the circle marks, assumed those were hammer wounds. Can't be though, the circles are at the edge of long rectangular bruises. A hammer wouldn't leave a mark like that.
Those wounds are most likely from the butt of the air rifle.
laceration is present in the mid occiput posteriorly. It occurs
approximately l inch above the ear level. It is triangular in shape."
I did a quick glance through at Johnnies and didn't really see anything that wouldn't be caused by a hammer. I'm always looking for the differences in the treatment of victims, but it changes every time! What does make sense is one (living) victim left with one weapon. At least that ratio is consistent. We could be looking for a combat experienced vet or someone who maybe trained with a home grown militia. You do run into 'em in the hills. Rural rugged areas make for the best training grounds. I cant speak for that area of California, but I've known them to be in Or, north east Washington, Western Idaho, and Montana.
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Also 1) a scope would interfere with a rifle being handled in such a way, maybe it was purposely snapped off? 2) A person trained to handle a weapon like that would probably own a real one themselves. 3) if any wounds needed to be "covered Up' it would be these, or any that give clues as to the identity of the attacker. A whipping from a table leg would be insufficient. I need to learn more about the scope. IFF somebody used the rifle while the scope was still attached, and IFF it broke of as a result, OR IFF they quickly snapped it off themselves there could be jagged metal or screws exposed. The scope was Thomas's hold back and his possible "key". It would have been gone over with a fine tooth comb. The scope got out but no results of any tests. A few days ago I was reading an early article and Thomas says they're almost certain the perps cut themselves. Well yeah, think we've all assumed someone would've cut themselves on a knife, and the cabinet door that has blood running down it? That HAS to be a cut on a hand. I just realllly want to know what they've done with the scope since.
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Man snoho, I swear we must share some sort of ESP haha. I was just thinking a lot of those same things.
I read Johnny's after readings Dana's and kept thinking how different it is. Johnny's head trauma does appear more consistent with a hammer. The lacerations are described as "some curved, some straight and some stellate" with circular depressed fractures underneath.
In addition to his neck wounds, a knife was used to slice and stab about his ear. As you mentioned with Johnny hands, could Johnny have been unexpectedly hit with the hammer? Perhaps knocked out by this blow. Several more hammer blows then perpetrator heads to the kitchen to grab a knife. And while perpetrator #1 deals with Johnny, the other offender attacks and bludgeons Dana with the air rifle.
Then Sue's injuries appear to be a combination of both Johnny and Dana's injuries.
And excellent thought about the site/jagged edges possibly resulting in an injury to one of the suspects!
"Man snoho, I swear we must share some sort of ESP haha. I was just thinking a lot of those same things." Hope I've had the same thought more than once!
"Occasional tiny petechiae are present on the upper pons on section. The ventricular
system, the lateral ventricles, show approximation of their edges and pink spinal
fluid is present in the ventricles."
The upper pons is part of the brain stem controlling motor function among other things (raspatory?) I don't know what "approximation" in the lat ventricles means, but I think they're supposed to contain spinal fluid (is he just stating this is normal?) . Anyway we've got three possible reasons Dana would be acting drunk. Dang it, all we want is one! Edit "The appearance of the sample of CSF is usually compared to a sample of water.
Color of the fluid—normal is clear and colorless. Changes in the color of the CSF are not diagnostic but may point to additional substances in the fluid. Yellow, orange, or pink CSF may indicate the breakdown of blood cells due to bleeding into the CSF or the presence of bilirubin. Green CSF may also sometimes be seen with bilirubin or infection."
The doc specifically says pink spinal fluid and not cranial spinal fluid. I'm getting ahead of myself, time to step away. Hope, I will come back to those puncture wounds. Did you see any possible cross hatching in the (maybe/probably) rifle butt wounds?
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The marked zone of fracturing over the left parietal temporal region extends deeply down into the petrous portion of the temporal bone on the left side as well as through the left orbital plate and sphenoid wing.
Further fractures extend across the midline to the right petrous ridge forming a hinge type fracture.
"Hinge fractures are defined as crushing injuries, such as compression of the head between the ground and a heavy object (ie, a car tire). Transverse hinge fractures extend across the dorsum sellae of the skull, and can separate it into two."
"'Hinge’ fractures occur when the linear fracture passes across the middle cranial fossa, separating the skull base into 2 halves, and may be caused by a heavy blow to the side of the head (e.g. in motorcycle accidents)" It is also known as the Motorcyclist’s fracture.
This is interesting:
Moritz17 notes that if the head is free to move with the impact, the fractures tend to be linear or incompletely depressed, whereas if the head is immobilized (ie, against a solid surface) heavy blows will result in comminuted fractures with inward displacement.