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Post by kmik on Jul 13, 2017 15:33:56 GMT -6
It's easy for me to believe Greg might have assumed it was normal noise but their room was too close to the living room and their door partially open not to be able to discern horseplay from panic. Shelia said in a 2010 post that Ricky has never discussed it but she felt he might remember something. She also said she thought Greg was too young to remember anything.
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 13, 2017 16:52:29 GMT -6
Why wouldn't Ricky have said anything to Sheila in all these years? Or to LE?
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Post by kmik on Jul 13, 2017 17:47:33 GMT -6
Mk's forum is now back up. Can't thank her enough!! Please read the post made by DMAC under "what Justin said" and this was just 3 months ago. Proof that he hasn't had an internal battle about outing Justin. He thought we were sick for even discussing it!! Just can't get his theory to line up.
I've written a response but MK now has to approve post before they are posted.
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 13, 2017 18:55:58 GMT -6
Does MK's forum have a new name? It's not coming up in my Google tonight.
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Post by kmik on Jul 13, 2017 19:15:50 GMT -6
I don't know because I have it on my favorites but it must be under the same thing.
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 13, 2017 19:17:17 GMT -6
I just remembered that that's where dmac called me all kinds of names. I think I'll have to pass. I'm not into being verbally abused again.
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Post by kmik on Jul 13, 2017 19:46:55 GMT -6
MK is approving all post made on her forum so I don't think she will allow that again. We are staying here on Zodiac's forum but just glad she put it back up so all can see what he was posting just a few months ago. Many people do not know about this forum and Dmac isn't telling so if her forum is back up people will be aware that this forum exists.
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 14, 2017 3:47:48 GMT -6
I wish more people would come here. I like the open conversations.
BTW - I'm sure some of my posts are either repeats or may not make sense. I used to be able to put thoughts together but as I go through the various cancer treatments, I tend to get dumber by the month. Please forgive me if some of my posts sound stupid. I just can't put my thoughts in writing right now. Temporary chemo brain (or so they say).
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Post by kmik on Jul 14, 2017 7:51:33 GMT -6
We love it here and don't worry we repeat ourselves often.. Just good to know you are able to go through treatment and may God bless you!
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 14, 2017 9:25:22 GMT -6
Thanks.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 14, 2017 10:53:07 GMT -6
I forgot to mention one other thing: Ricky's story has never changed. Sheila, Justin, and just about everyone else have told different stories, then, and now. But not Ricky. On April 13, he said he slept through the whole thing, and he's never contradicted himself.
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Post by kmik on Jul 14, 2017 11:03:19 GMT -6
Probably better that he stuck to his original story. I just can't see him sleeping through that but it's possible. Maybe he was pretending to be asleep. In an old post either Glenna or Marilyn said that The boys got in the closet with Greg to keep him quiet because he was crying. Now a lot of stories may have come from Justin but I'm pretty sure that Shelia was sharing information with the Meeks during the documentary filming and while married to Richard.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jul 14, 2017 11:32:06 GMT -6
Well, my basic point is, the crime might not have been all that loud, especially if there was no shouting. Just because it looks horribly violent doesn't mean it sounded horrible voilent. When I was ten, I could easily have slept through something like that, or at least, rolled over and went back to sleep.
Let me give you a counter example: When I was in college, I shared a house with another guy and a new roommate, a Japanese girl we just met. Early in the semester, he and I came home one night from partying with the neighbors and without even thinking about Keiko being in bed, we were up until nearly dawn cooking and carrying on, banging pots and pans and listening to music and whatnot. The next morning, we sobered up and realized what we had done and apologized to Keiko. She told us that she had grown up in a crowded Japanese house with several brothers, and had been lying in bed too scared to fall asleep--until we came home, making a loud commotion like her brothers. She said she fell asleep immediately and never woke up.
Same thing could have happened when the older brothers came home...
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Post by kmik on Jul 14, 2017 11:52:59 GMT -6
So true and just because I don't believe it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Post by cancersucks on Jul 14, 2017 14:18:17 GMT -6
That could be it. Ricky was a lot younger than Keiko and had probably been out running, playing, riding bikes, etc. Plus, if he was used to 4 siblings and their friends, maybe noise was normal to him. Maybe the murders were quiet.
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