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Post by speaktruth on Oct 3, 2020 14:16:41 GMT -6
Here's Hal Snook in 69. WTG Admin  Whoran, you nailed the elusive Zodiac 30 years before he never killed! Brilliant undetective! |
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Post by speaktruth on Oct 3, 2020 13:30:10 GMT -6
seriously? Dmac has already shown pictures of the evidence bags on the doorstep. Or are they gophers, hamsters, or rats? DMac shows photos showing the hamsters were alive the murders. I guess they were adopted, guessing from all the photos.
The cage with live rats shows up by the door in one photo then disappears from the top of the footlocker. Animal Control was the overnight security guy, so if DMac should be talking to anyone it should be him. Or should he talk to the flake who said Dana died in a chair by the phone, fell forward, then tied his dead feet to dead John's with his dead hands? Your guru has a screw looser than Marty's. His logic is... not.
I don't understand much here. the main thing is to tear down DMac at all cost.Well, that can't be too hard, he's made himself a target.
You can'tthrow out the baby with the bathwater, and DMac is both. he makes his mistakes and even apologized too much. This case is passed me, I don't get half of it. I know that. Maybe I can add some advice: don't throw the baby and bathwater out. DMac has done so much 4 this case, but you all want to sink him instead of improve on what he'd done. That's not fair, and Tina, Sue, Dana, Johnny don't want another fight when truth is justice.
If truth is justice.
the nitpickling. You want to see all files before Marty is a suspect, then you want DMac to stop showing files because they're old and meen nothing. Talk only to these people who talk to noone about the case but lie when they do. But there words mean nothing in 2020 because memories? Only trust old reports. which don't matter unless it's a new version from an old memory. The hate is so bad here!
How can I help when all you do is bash? A shame, I thought this was hear to be open to ideas. I don't stand a chace, unless I hate DMc. I don't like the guy, but I hate noone, and he's done more work than all of you put together. And at least he put Josh in his place! Take his strengths and balance them with his weaknesses. Improve on what he can't seem to get, don't ruin what he's got right.
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Post by Omega on Oct 3, 2020 5:52:51 GMT -6
Margerie Diehl I believe. I remember that because the last name Diehl came up researching the SOS in New York. Margerie was involved in illegal abortion rackets in New York. I doubt there was any relation, but I remember wondering at the time. Different spelling of last names. Margerie Diehl vs. John Diel (Christine Freund's boyfriend - 4th SOS shooting)
Names can change over time from their origins, but highly likely no relation here.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 2, 2020 21:28:04 GMT -6
The occult and the Episcopal church has been going on for a long time. The cathedral of St. John the divine in New York is covered in occult symbolism. It's where the occult establishment in NY use to go, in fact when the church wasn't holding "Christian" events they held meetings and such for the theosophical society in the basement of the church. It's a branch of the Anglican Church which at one time in the late 19th century had close to 50% of their bishops or priests involved in the occult. Me and professor were discussing this on another thread while back. The wealthy elite of the east coast were mainly episcopalians. Read the book called "the power of their glory". It's free on archive.org.
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Post by kmik on Oct 2, 2020 20:17:26 GMT -6
And if there's a question of what day the photo was taken here is a black and white and one with Sue's car still in the backyard:
 
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Post by kmik on Oct 2, 2020 19:53:22 GMT -6
Maybe this is the answer to Vickie's brilliant question:
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Post by james1983 on Oct 2, 2020 17:38:22 GMT -6
I don't watch much television, mostly just read some on my free time. The only shows I do watch are documentaries. Another documentary that left me wondering was the one about the McDonalds massacre.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 2, 2020 17:35:21 GMT -6
Yep. Margerie Diehl I believe. I remember that because the last name Diehl came up researching the SOS in New York. Margerie was involved in illegal abortion rackets in New York. I doubt there was any relation, but I remember wondering at the time. The shame is we've only heard that story coming from the detective that worked the case. I'd love to read all their files on that case.
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Post by marionumber1 on Oct 2, 2020 15:24:31 GMT -6
I guess "crime scene" isn't the right word for it, perhaps "cover-up scene" is better. Like you, I think they were there in the early morning helping stage a crime scene at the Ramsey home, to make everyone believe that she had been killed there when it actually happened elsewhere. Then they either left and were called right back in keeping with the cover story, or perhaps they never really left at all. In any case, I do think that part of their reason for the Whites, Fernies, Fr. Holverstock, and Dr. Beuf wanting to be there into the late morning/early afternoon before JonBenet was found is that they wanted to have an explanation if any forensic evidence linking them to the staged crime scene turned up. There could have been other reasons too, like handling Patsy.
We definitely do have different thoughts on Linda Arndt. I'm curious, what makes you think she wasn't honest? Personally I feel like she was one of the few cops in the Boulder PD who was honest, which is why her reputation was destroyed the most out of anyone there. She had what I thought was a good instinct about John Ramsey, and also extended her suspicion to everyone else in the house when she noted that no one but her seemed to care about 10 AM passing with no phone call. Plus, she even reported fearing that her life was in danger from high-level officers in the BPD like John Eller and Tom Koby, which is very telling. I think she was hung out to dry that morning by the department and made to handle a "crime scene" entirely on her own with tons of people milling about, despite repeatedly calling for backup.
Tal Jones is a very interesting character in all of this. He is the son of OSS and Army intelligence officer Albert Hedding Sprague who ended up remarrying to Alyce Christoff (Nancy Krebs's mother), making Tal Nancy's step-uncle. Tal, who was living in Boulder, got involved in the Ramsey case from the very beginning, joining the online forums to post primarily Burke-did-it theories as "Spade". Per one account, Tal was working as a paralegal in the Boulder law office of Thomas Cecil "Doc" Miller (then-boyfriend of Ramsey family friend Judith Phillips), and came into the office the day after JonBenet's murder to announce that Fleet White had told him Burke killed JonBenet. Likely due to his association with Miller, Tal boasted of being "well conected to the darker side of Boulder's political/judical network", which apparently involved "drugs and blackmail". Tal even bragged about having Tom Haney, a former Denver cop who was assisting the Boulder police, as an inside source. When Nancy Krebs was considering coming forward, Tal was one of the people who approached her and tried getting her not to. His subsequent attacks on Nancy and continued pushing of RDI (largely BDI) narratives online made many people see him as Fleet White's henchman of sorts. Reportedly, Alyce even said at one point that she wouldn't be surprised if Tal (her stepson) was involved in murdering JonBenet.
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Post by anyhoo on Oct 2, 2020 14:00:12 GMT -6
I don't have any specific knowledge of the church, but like you, I developed a suspicion that it was some kind of meeting ground for a pedophile group/cult after researching the case for a while. My suspicion was that the decision to call in the Whites, the Fernies, Father Rol Holverstock, and Dr. Francis Beuf to the Ramsey home that morning was to pollute the crime scene, allowing for any forensic evidence of their presence (likely from the staging done that night into the early morning) to be explained. There are signs that all of them were acting in lockstep, like Linda Arndt's observation that none of them cared about the 10 AM deadline passing with no phone call, and Dr. Beuf, who appears to have covered up JonBenet's long-term sexual abuse, supplying Patsy (not a patient of his!) painkillers. So to find out that every one of them other than the Whites was part of the same church in Boulder certainly raised red flags. One old Justice Watch post from 2000 even speculated along these lines: IMO the Whites, the Fernies, Rolland Hoverstock, Dr. Beuf and others did not have to be called over to the house on the morning of 12-26-1996. I contend that they were there much earlier, like around 2 to 3 AM helping John and Patsy to stage a fake crime scene at their house to hide the truth about where JBR actually met her death. IMO they were not there to pollute the crime scene, which was in a completely different location that they had all come from but they were there to stage a false crime scene and also to help support Patsy who was very upset about her daughter's death (much more so than John was). I question Linda Arndt's honesty and integrity for a variety of reasons. I have heard about this Tal Jones name before but I did not give it any significance. Do you know anything about Tal Jones? |
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Post by anyhoo on Oct 2, 2020 12:56:54 GMT -6
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 2, 2020 11:31:40 GMT -6
BTW, have you seen "Evil Genius," about the Pizza Bomber? That one gets fucking WILD. Wilder than Talhotblond.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 2, 2020 11:08:35 GMT -6
There was a lot of strangeness going on in that short video clip. i would like to see more of it, I'm sure it was edited for public consumption.
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Post by marionumber1 on Oct 2, 2020 10:36:32 GMT -6
I don't have any specific knowledge of the church, but like you, I developed a suspicion that it was some kind of meeting ground for a pedophile group/cult after researching the case for a while. My suspicion was that the decision to call in the Whites, the Fernies, Father Rol Holverstock, and Dr. Francis Beuf to the Ramsey home that morning was to pollute the crime scene, allowing for any forensic evidence of their presence (likely from the staging done that night into the early morning) to be explained. There are signs that all of them were acting in lockstep, like Linda Arndt's observation that none of them cared about the 10 AM deadline passing with no phone call, and Dr. Beuf, who appears to have covered up JonBenet's long-term sexual abuse, supplying Patsy (not a patient of his!) painkillers. So to find out that every one of them other than the Whites was part of the same church in Boulder certainly raised red flags. One old Justice Watch post from 2000 even speculated along these lines: |
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Post by anyhoo on Oct 1, 2020 20:30:27 GMT -6
Unfortunately I cannot see the post on WebSleuths because I have been permanently banned by Tricia the administrator of that site for expressing opinions that Tricia has long been against. I do not want to get into that though. I believe that Patsy has been a victim of Monarch mind control just as I believe that JonBenet was a victim of Monarch mind control. I created a post about this on my Blog. strangerinajewishworld.blogspot.com/2020/08/programming-and-jbr-murder-i-feel.html |
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