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Post by hope on Oct 8, 2020 14:10:16 GMT -6
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Post by elantric on Oct 8, 2020 12:49:17 GMT -6
Yeah. That's why no one has proven ONE single, solitary sentence of my book wrong in five plus years. But, that doesn't stop shit for brains Tom Voigt from sneaking around this website under fake names trying to claim it's "ridiculous," "impossible," "implausible," "completely shot down," blah, blah, blah. When all you do, shit for brains--I mean, Voigt--I mean, shit for brains--is prove that you CAN'T prove one single solitary sentence wrong. All ANYBODY has to do is QUOTE one, single, solitary sentence or paragraph from my book and SHOW that it's wrong with EVIDENCE and not horseshit. Not the whole book. Just ONE thing. One. How hard is that? Apparently, it's "impossible." More on Tom Voigts claims amp.reddit.com/r/ZodiacKiller/comments/foq68y/what_has_made_tom_voigt_move_cjb_to_an_official/www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/tom-voigt-the-sorrento-connectionzodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/richard-gaikowski-the-wrong-man/tom-voigt-the-good-times-switchboard-revisionist-history/ |
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 8, 2020 8:07:35 GMT -6
Yeah. That's why no one has proven ONE single, solitary sentence of my book wrong in five plus years. But, that doesn't stop shit for brains Tom Voigt from sneaking around this website under fake names trying to claim it's "ridiculous," "impossible," "implausible," "completely shot down," blah, blah, blah. When all you do, shit for brains--I mean, Voigt--I mean, shit for brains--is prove that you CAN'T prove one single solitary sentence wrong.
All ANYBODY has to do is QUOTE one, single, solitary sentence or paragraph from my book and SHOW that it's wrong with EVIDENCE and not horseshit. Not the whole book. Just ONE thing. One. How hard is that? Apparently, it's "impossible."
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Post by hope on Oct 8, 2020 7:44:36 GMT -6
Yes, I agree as well. One would think if that DNA hit belonged to MMB we would have heard more about it. That is the only place I have seen this 2nd DNA hit/match mentioned. That leads me to believe it must belong to Rick, Greg, or Tina. Or someone who admitted to being in the cabin before the police arrived, such as uncle Don.
I do have a question, regarding Justin's DNA hit. It was touch DNA found on the tape, correct? Couldn't that also mean that he touched the tape after the fact, possibly to try to remove it? He admitted to being with Sue and trying to stop the bleeding. I believe it was said his DNA was in a spot that made it apparent he participated. But I suppose he could have touched the tape while attempting to remove it but then reapplied it? Unless it was on multiple areas/layers of the tape or at the ends several times, showing he had ripped the tape during the commission of the crime? Just some thoughts I've had.
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Post by elantric on Oct 8, 2020 5:28:03 GMT -6
United States of America v. James J. Bulger is a sweeping and revelatory documentary film that follows the trial of the infamous gangster James “Whitey” Bulger, using the courtroom action as a springboard to examine accusations of multi-faceted corruption within our nation’s law enforcement and legal systems.
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Post by speaktruth2 on Oct 7, 2020 21:02:29 GMT -6
Yes, that's exactly what you have. Rarely are you remotely accurate, or concise. And why would I read your moronic drivel when your core argument is ridiculous and vapid? Your writng on this "forum" shows haw insane your "theories" are, and a sideways glance at how others familiar with Zodiac have completely shot down your impossible implausibles tells most to avoid your feeble-brained ideas. As all the cases you claim to be expert in, you claim all of them were poorly handled and your the only one in the room smart enough to figure them out? Sorry, Charlie, but Graysmith is Bright Boy compared to you.
And I thought insults were below you. Can't be, as your ideas alone are insulting to anyone with an IQ above safe fridge temp.
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 7, 2020 3:26:18 GMT -6
The phrase, "Jesus H Jumped Up Zombie Christ on Flaming Rubber Crutches!" is thrown around a lot these days, but you my friend, take the cake. This is stunning. Thanks a million!
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Post by august on Oct 6, 2020 22:47:37 GMT -6
The obviously underutilized Joan Wildebush in her 1962 High School photo. She later married a friend of Crockett (shown in the other photo with Paul Watkins and Poston) named Robert Berry. Oddly, they didn't marry until 1997. Poston was a good guitar player, much like many others who associated with Manson; and even some of the women had musical talent. Attachments:
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Post by august on Oct 6, 2020 22:32:20 GMT -6
Brooks Poston, whom Charlie entrusted watching the Barker Ranch during much of the middle of 1969 along with Juanita (Joan) Wildbush, was - BEFORE MANSON - seeking OTHER truths. Like with a fella named Jim Jones up in Ukiah. Attachments:
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Post by kmik on Oct 6, 2020 13:40:40 GMT -6
No I had not seen that. The comment is 2 years old so that would have been in 2018. Just my thinking but all of these people are getting older so if the police had a dna hit in 2018 I'd think there would have been some major developments in the last 2 years if it was someone besides the kids. But who knows |
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Post by kmik on Oct 6, 2020 13:31:21 GMT -6
Yes it is nice to see these reports and although I could not understand Mike turning this stuff over to him it does answer a lot of questions that we've all had. Here's Vernal, who was supposedly a good friend of Dana's, telling this story about Dana thinking the baby might be his - and regardless of if it was or not he obviously had been with Sheila too. I wouldn't really think a lot of young guyswould want to be the father to anyone's baby and Dana already had a baby with Robert P's sister (don't know if he claimed it)
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Post by hope on Oct 6, 2020 9:57:49 GMT -6
Yes, sadly anyone with an interest in this case has been chased away or insulted. Probably afraid to be named a suspect. People cannot even discuss the case on Reddit or YouTube. Speaking of YouTube, have you guys seen this comment?  |
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Post by hope on Oct 6, 2020 9:15:28 GMT -6
Yes, that's a good point and makes sense. If they helped set the table they most likely ate dinner there. It is nice to see these new reports. I was always interested in seeing what the people living in the group home had to say.
The new information coming out about Dana & Sheila is interesting as well. Like wow. It could certainly change the dynamics between the kids, as well as the adults. I know you touched on this previously, but how did Johnny feel about 2 of his friends being with his sister? How did Richard feel about Dana & Sheila? Did he know about it the entire time or find out sometime afterwards? When and where was all this stuff going on? Had mama or Sue heard these rumors. Were there other people involved in these love triangles that could have had jealousy issues? How does Tina fit into all this, we've heard more than one person mention "Tina was a fast little girl". Its sad, she was just a little girl but it is obvious these kids were behaving older than their years. So many questions!
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Post by james1983 on Oct 6, 2020 8:51:24 GMT -6
Astronomy and astrology only have one thing in common, and that's mapping out planets and stars. Astrology goes way beyond that. Astrology claims people's lives are determined by which sign they were born under. The easrliest astronomers were the first people who looked up into the night sky.
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Post by james1983 on Oct 6, 2020 8:46:02 GMT -6
I believe alchemy and chemistry were two seperate fields of study. The alchemist of the 16th and 17th centuries like Jacob Boehme all ridiculed those who thought they could literally turn lead into gold, they called them "profane". Alchemy is nothing but allegory on the beliefs I stated above. It's about refining the real "philosophers stone", the "holy grail", and the "water of life". They were talking about the human soul, or psyche (mind). It has a lot more to do with what we'd call psychology today. Carl Jung wrote numerous notes on alchemy and Gnosticism, in fact Jung was an admitted gnostic. The same goes with Sigmend Freud. Lead also has other meanings, it also represents base society. It turned into what's known as social alchemy. A big mover and shaker in this form of alchemy was Zionist Hegel who formed the dialectic of two opposing sides which refer back to the positive/negative hermeticism. Even Mesmer used alchemy in his approach to mesmerism. The "fluid" that Mesmer thought was crucial to his hypnosis was electricity, which brings us to shock treatment used in psych wards. It also brings us to the word chaos as in the shock doctrine used to hypnotize society by "terrorism", "bombings", "covid 19", or any other form of the "strategy of tension" used in Italy and Vietnam. One story from the book called the phienix program by Douglas Valentine goes kinda like this, the northern Vietnamese had a local legend that a lot of people believed about a vampire that lived in the jungles close to their villages. What Phoenix troops did was kill a couple enemy troops, hang them upside down in the trees, put holes in their necks, and drain all their blood. The locals of coarse were scared shitless thinking it was the jungle vampires. Michael Aquino, Oliver North, William Colby, and yes even Senator John DeCamp was involved in doing these things. It's psychological warfare. It's done in every country to its citizens.
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