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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 5, 2020 11:26:02 GMT -6
From Jack Johnson: Here is another rather shocking blog regarding agri giant Cargill (nominally headquartered in Minnetonka but their main headquarter is TRADEX located in Switzerland) . The head of their pension plans as well as being a member of the Minnesota state finance committee "Kerry Brick" was allegedly arrested by RCMP during a child sacrifice ritual in Montreal. Now I have no idea if this is true but were I Kerry Brick or Cargill I would sue these blogs.By the way a man named Pearsall Helms used to run Cargill and he was the brother of the late Director of the CIA Richard Helms. Minnesota is chocked full of the Helms family members and their off shoots.
mncorruption.com/minnesotas-international-grain-cartel-satanic-child-sacrifice-cult-bust/
American Crystal Sugar needs to be investigated. No way you can have 4 drug dealers working at your plant and not know it. And one of them is the grandson of the former Secretary of Agriculture under Jimmy Carter (how many serial killers were active during Carters years in office--LOTS!) Of course I am more interested in breaking the satanic aspect of this cult.Yeah. And one need not point out the links between Cargill and the Department of Agriculture. |
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 5, 2020 11:12:28 GMT -6
More stuff on Barry Dossenko, Sugar Beet farmer: No one ever mentions Barry and Serena Dossenko of North Dakota as being a part of the Son of Sam cult. www.newspapers.com/clip/23648577/serena-barry-dossenko-sentenced/bismarcktribune.newspapers.com/clip/23648463/serena-barry-dossenko/I notice (always read the whole paper if you can. You never know...) that authorities got around to charging a "Michael Berg" with burglary the same day the Dossenkos' plea bargains were accepted and they were sentenced. Jack Johnson Thanks for your reply. However I don't know what you're trying to say. My point was the Dossenko's were a part of the Son of Sam / The Process Church of the Final Judgement killing machine. Other than that I had no other reason for linking the old news reports. The Stones Unturned PodcastWhat I'm saying is, was the formal charging of Michael Berg (related to Jerry Berg? See what I mean?) PART of the plea DEAL the Dossenkos entered into? You have to BUY your plea bargain with SOMETHING besides just "saving the cost of a trial." They must have turned on somebody. Michael Berg was formally charged with a previous crime on the same day the Dossenkos signed their plea deals. Very rarely is that a coincidence. Believe me. Jack Johnson Youre saying the Dossenkos "snitched" someone out to get their plea deal? Another interesting historical factoid. The Dossenko's used to promote these meeting selling the idea of organic food. Interested persons would buy a ticket and listen to the experts. With them they had a Fargo ND Doctor, sort of a New Age Doctor but a real doctor who lived a while in Northern California in the 1960's (Prime time Manson and Zodiac Killer) . Now I have forgotten his name and further cant recall how I found him. Anyway I found his grandson. His grandson had been arrested and charged with running a drug ring along with this 26 year old kid Noah Bergland who just happens to be the grandson of Jimmy Carters (Has any President presided over more serial killers-- Atlanta Child Murders, John Wayne Gacy, Jim Jones, Son of Sam and the list goes on) Secretary of Agriculture!!! They ran this drug operation out of American Sugar (cannot for the life of me remember the exact company name) because there were 3 other people arrested that all worked at this "beet" sugar refinery. Could there be a better place to manufacture Meth? We should ask Walter White aka Bryan Cranston ( By the way Breaking Bad lead met Charles Manson at Spahn Ranch when he was 13 and he was also a Scientologist and in the early 1990's he often appear on TV show Seinfeld and Seinfeld is alo Scientology). I traced other members of this drug crew and one of the fellas had a previous conviction for murder and torture. But the grandson of the Secretary of Agriculture does not just jump into drugs. This hints to me that these Son of Sam, Manson, et.al are generational. Here is the story of Noah Bergland the grandson of Bob Bergland who was Jimmy Carters Secretary of Agriculture. His buddy was the grandson of Son of Sam linked barry Dossenko's doctor partner in organic foods and other new age cures. www.grandforksherald.com/2178068-east-grand-forks-man-pleads-guilty-forming-drug-trafficking-ring#:~:text=%C3%97-,FARGO%20%2D%2D%20A%2026%2Dyear%2Dold%20man%20who%20used%20to,and%20continuing%20criminal%20enterprise%20charges. Jack JohnsonGet this. I really found something. The new age Doctor (see my post above) that was partnered up with the Dossenko's (they were busted in 1991 having a meth lab underground on their farm property) was named Briggs. His grandson also last named Briggs was arrested with the Grandson of former Secretary of Ag. "Noah Robert Bergland" an employee (along with 3 other co defendants) of American Crystal Sugar where he was in charge of packaging (I bet he was). When you go to the timeline for American Crystal Sugar, go to the year 1966 and you see a Charles Briggs is named President of the Sugar beat Cooperative. WE GOT EM! We got a piece of the Son of Sam operation out of Fargo/Moorhead, Minot (Arlis Perry death) ND Historical Timeline American Crystal Sugar www.crystalsugar.com/cooperative-profile/history/Jack JohnsonBrian Briggs sentenced to 15 years for drug ring. He is not only the son of Dr. Griggs the new age doctor with the Dossenko's he is the grand son of Charles Briggs the former President of American Crystal Sugar where the drug gang could have been producing meth and packaging it. The Briggs connection to Dossenko is interesting due to the Dossenko's connection to Son of Sam. www.ice.gov/news/releases/minnesota-man-sentenced-north-dakota-10-years-federal-prison-running-multi-state-drugThe Stones Unturned PodcastSugar beets. THAT"S what he was organically farming in North Dakota. Sugar beets. FWIW, I was born in Brush, Colorado. Our high school mascot is The Beetdiggers. I'm wondering if I read somewhere that Bill Vance was raising sugar beets in his northwest Missouri organic commune. Sugar beets. Yes, Jack, you have uncovered something, all right. Forget pumpkin stickers. You get a pumpkin PIE. Jack Johnson No I wouldnt think so. Here is a link to a blog that about halfway through mentions the North Dakota aspect of the Son of Sam cult. The sugar beet aspect seems to me to be this company with connections and people running drugs. criminalgenealogy.blogspot.com/2016/10/son-of-sam-connections-in-north-dakota.htmlIn this blog he mentions a Dan Carlson of Sonic Bloom and I was able to find a website by Dan Carlson who died in 2012. dancarlsonsonicbloom.com/About.htmlDan was linked to the Dossenko couple. He was a character witness after they were arrested for running a drug farm and Dan also went round preaching the gospel about organic farming. I think when you are talking about organic farming you're in that realm of ENVIRONMEMTALISM which Charlie Manson espoused. Speaking of Bill Vance here he is. www.charlesmanson.com/family-members/william-cole/Jack Johnson Speaking of Bill Vance aka Bill Cole here is a reference. Like the Dossenko's he likes Organic Farming. QUOTE: After Manson’s murder trial, Bill Cole was living in western Missouri with Baldwin, Family member Claudia Leigh Smith and a young man from Simi Valley, California. They were running an organic farm and Cole was registered as a minister for an organization called ‘Youth-for-Life’ which promoted a philosophy of ‘total acceptance of all churches and beliefs with no prejudice at all’. A reporter for the local paper came out to interview them, talking with Smith and Weaver. After the first of four articles appeared about the farm, local law officials received a phone call from Hinman investigators Whitely and Guenther. |
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Post by kmik on Nov 4, 2020 21:13:31 GMT -6
If it's this hard for us, 40 years and tons of info later, than just imagine how hard it was for LE at the time of the murders - even through the '80's.
Karis and I had one desire when we joined this forum: To get people to see that the "evidence" against Marty Smartt was based on rumor and speculation. We wanted to know who committed these murders even if it was Marty Smartt, but we were well aware of the many other POI's whose stories are very questionable.
Chuck and Henry. Yes, Chuck had old cuts on his hand when questioned weeks later but that just makes me go back to the "acid party". If Chuck - or any of his family - had a party near Keddie then some of these questionable people may very well have been there. But how do we work them into the murders in 28? Doug Thomas seemed to think the murders were drug related based on what he said on the documentary. That is why there was such a public plea for young people to come forward with info.
Then again from all we've been told there was no trace of anyone being in that cabin other than the people already there yet we do believe that someone had to have been in 28 or come to 28 to help.
Steve leaves me shaking my head. What was he doing at Mrs. Alvey's so early in the morning trying to get out of town? Why did he leave her sisters house abruptly after the tv show airing the Keddie murders? The sad truth is while LE was chasing down campfire rumors a very good POI was fleeing town and it wouldn't be known for years and many PON's later. So sad that Mrs.Alvey, for whatever reason, did not tell this at the time of the murders and let the police decide if it was relevant or not. |
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Post by hope on Nov 4, 2020 19:55:15 GMT -6
Me too Snoho! I've been been checking out the wayback machine myself the past couple days. Keeping track of anything interesting I come across and will make a post soon. Gamberg's thoughts sure changed drastically over the years.
And I agree with you too jmo. That is something I come back to as well, that and his brother. Reading through the old posts there were people from the area who thought chuck was involved. Plus the whole "keddie machete" thing. However, chuck apparently passed the lie detector, regarding involvement or knowing who was involved (I know those results can be unreliable though). And i also go back to Steve h, his behavior is highly suspect and what you would expect from someone involved. Add in his sister & refusal to take a polygraph during her murder investigation + knowledge of location & leaving the area immediately after keddie. Too many suspicious people.
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 4, 2020 18:51:32 GMT -6
Its that time again where I go back over a bunch of stuff and jump in the way back machine. It appears Gamberg felt strongly Daniel French was the best suspect at one point.
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Post by Omega on Nov 4, 2020 5:38:28 GMT -6
Found only the basics of a story in the Sacramento Bee from April 30th, 1981:
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Post by jmo on Nov 4, 2020 0:19:20 GMT -6
K is for knife.
One person reported for having knife "wounds" that were healing.
Not Mardy. Not Bo. Not Marilyn. Not Sheila. Not anyone else that we know.
Just that one guy. The one that was off the chain. Wrote years later on fb how to take a needle out of an arm safely. Yeeesh
I feel we've all gotten bogged down with the Dmac (compiracy much?) and Gam (shameful, and Mike, if you're reading this you should be ASHAMED with your lack of EVERYTHING).
I refuse to believe every single cop from start to finish was in on this. Ridiculous. Just ridiculous.
Soooo----getting back to what matters: Who killed Sue and her family?
K is for knife. Also knife wounds. And knife scabs.
Why only one report of this? Because maybe it's important---not too many "Holy crap this guy I know had knife scabs" out there. Kinda big. idk I keep coming back to it though.
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 22:02:26 GMT -6
MANTEE S.O. (BARENTON, FLORIDA)
Info William B. Leonard, might be S/ our case, Det. Steve Litschauer sending info
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I've looked for this guy before, wondering why he'd be considered a suspect. Never found much, so just dripping it here. " According to court records, Leonard argued he did not deserve the death penalty because new evidence shows he suffered mental health problems at the time he stabbed Joseph Wright with a prison-made shank.
The new mental health evidence indicates Leonard has poor impulse control and may react violently and uncontrollably when he feels threatened or if intoxicated or frightened, according to court records.
At the time, Leonard was in prison for killing two people in Mineral County. Wright was also serving a term for murder, according to court records."
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 18:34:07 GMT -6
Wait, what? Don rushed back for....a light bulb? Because.... sheila told him she'd touched a light bulb at her house? And he did what with it then? Loony ass story
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 18:21:15 GMT -6
Oh jesse, I've tried to find him as a registered S O in Clark co, no luck. I found one site that says he was locked up in Monroe correctional facility near tumwater, wa. Monroe is about 100 miles NE of there. His DOC # doesn't exist. So was he released without having to register? Seems odd. I recall people losing their minds over hackers at the time and claiming someone inserted incriminating files onto his computer. As far as I can tell he's still in Vancouver but not registered there.
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 17:25:00 GMT -6
I believe a little later in 81
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 16:44:59 GMT -6
Interesting! Today I learned that the NATIONS #1 LSD producer (in the day) called Mountain View base camp. Although this person was there in 1988, I wonder if the lab was there prior. 7 years is a looong time to be able to keep a lab in one place but there certainly seemed to be more "acid parties" per capita, in the area then what I'd expect.
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Post by elantric on Nov 3, 2020 16:27:25 GMT -6
What year?
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 15:57:22 GMT -6
I've tried before, but can't find much on this. Seems like these 2 started in Canada and went on a south bound joy ride.
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Post by snoho17 on Nov 3, 2020 15:09:23 GMT -6
Ugh!!! Steve Howard does jump out because of his odd behavior, Karl S. Had such an unbelievable story, Walke and Thompson would have known camp 18, Thompson "keddie machete" in keddie that night. Arrrhg!
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