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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 10:20:03 GMT -6
Anothersection of the "love letter" originally posted by Jhancock on November 14, 2010 
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Post by james1983 on Nov 9, 2020 10:13:48 GMT -6
William Sloane Coffin Jr. Was a member of skull and bones, affiliated with the CIA in the late 50s, was an ordained episcopal priest, and was also affiliated with the fake peace movement in the 1960s. He was the leader of the Riverside church, and also part of the church of God. He's the guy who helped hijack the peace movement and lead people toward peaceful destruction (kabbalism). His college credential are very impressive as he inherited millions when he got older from his wealthy father who died when he was a child.
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Post by james1983 on Nov 9, 2020 10:02:37 GMT -6
Hinckley lived directly across the street from a Scientology center in Hawaii. Not a serial killer that we know of, but an important killer none the less.
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Post by james1983 on Nov 9, 2020 9:57:33 GMT -6
Alfred Hunt Howell Jr. Holds a patent for agricultural farming that was used in Mexico. Can't remember what it was exactly.
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Post by james1983 on Nov 9, 2020 9:47:05 GMT -6
Bill Mentzer was involved with all those people back in the 1980s
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Post by james1983 on Nov 9, 2020 9:39:06 GMT -6
The generative "force" is the same thing as what I mentioned. When paired with Hesod it becomes "the union of opposites", basically sex worship as sex is the means of harnessing this generative illuminating "force". It's also known as desire or the libido that Kurt Cobain famously sang about.
Annie Besant took over the Theosopical society after Blavatsky died. She was a member of the Fabien socialist society in Britain. There were many famous members including H. G. Wells. Wells was taught by "Darwins bulldog" T.H. Huxley. H. G. Wells taught Huxley's grandchildren Aldous and Julien. Theosophy and Wells wrote extensively about "the world brain", basically a world encyclopedia of information that all nations could agree on. Theosophy took it a step further and imagined a literal world brain where everyone in society has the same outline of history, thought the same, and had societies interests at heart instead of individuality. It's the perfect description of the Internet.
The two founders of Eselan claimed to have known Aldous Huxley having first met him in January 1962, and claimed he was the inspiration for Eselan.
I really don't look at occultism as "gobbledegook". There's reasons for its existence. I believe the main reason is it's the religion of the wealthy and elite, and second it's used as a way of conditioning (brain wash) society to instill a double minded way of thinking. Most occultists empathize opposites. It's basically what George Orwell termed in his book 1984 as "double think". Someone can hold to opposed ideas at the same time and think both are true. Freedom is slavery, darkness is light, right is wrong etc. what's also interesting is the bible talks about the same thing. "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil", "if the light in ye be darkness, how great is that darkness", and "the double minded man is unstable in all his ways".
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Post by jack on Nov 9, 2020 9:13:04 GMT -6
In Y2003 there was a case against LAPD officer Kelly Chrisman who allegedly tapped into LAPD computer and sold private information on Hollywood stars. His girlfriend at the time Cyndy Garvey sued him. Cyndy had been married to LA Dodger star first baseman Steve Garvey. Cyndy Garvey once said "the biggest cocaine dealers in Hollywood during the 1980's was OJ Simpson, Steve Garvey and Bruce Jenner. In this case Chrisman the officer charged is being defended by that knot head attorney Chris Darden.
Paparazzi-shy celebs have one more reason to worry they're being watched.
A Los Angeles police officer allegedly used department computers to look up confidential info on high-profile residents like Jennifer Aniston, Meg Ryan, Drew Barrymore and Halle Berry, reports the Los Angeles Times.
The cop claims he was just following orders, but a lawsuit recently settled by the city of Angels for $400,000 suggests that the man in blue was tapping into the personal info to sell celebrity tidbits to the tabloids.
Now, city officials are taking stock of their potential legal responsibility, and the LAPD is investigating if Officer Kelly Chrisman's computer searches were conducted for profit.
Chrisman allegedly pulled up law-enforcement records on hundreds of people from 1994 to 2000, including Courteney Cox Arquette, Sean Penn, O.J. Simpson, Kobe Bryant, Larry King, Pamela Anderson, Lara Flynn Boyle, Farrah Fawcett and Cindy Crawford.
Chrisman admits he pulled the files from the police database, sometimes from his patrol-car computer and other times from a desktop terminal at his Westside station, but he says the research was all part of a project assigned to him by department brass to track and maintain a map of celebrity residences in L.A.'s tony Westside. However, the LAPD denies the project existed and has filed misconduct charges against Chrisman, which could get the officer kicked off the force.
Chrisman, 34, has denied any allegations of misconduct.
Citing the ongoing investigation, an LAPD spokesperson said the department would "not comment at this time."
The peeping-for-pay accusations were exposed in a lawsuit filed by the officer's former girlfriend Cyndy Truhan, ex-wife of former Dodgers ball player Steve Garvey. Truhan accused Chrisman of tapping into LAPD computers to get the secret skinny on her and others and then selling the info to the tabs for a handsome profit.
While LAPD investigators failed to find a sufficient motive for the star-struck searches, according to officials quoted in the L.A. Times, unauthorized computer access goes against department regulations and doesn't require a motive. Meanwhile, city council members took the matter seriously enough to pay the $387,500 lawsuit, without admitting wrongdoing on the part of Chrisman or the LAPD, and ordered an inquiry into the city's liability for the allegedly illicit computer use.
In the meantime, Police Chief William J. Bratton has placed Chrisman on home duty (aka paid leave), while LAPD officials canceled his system password and blocked his access to confidential records after the investigation began.
However, Chrisman's attorney Christopher Darden, infamous co-prosecutor in the O.J. Simpson murder trial, denies his client made any money off selling department secrets. "There's really nothing in those records to sell to tabloids," Darden told the L.A. Times. "He didn't do it. That's that."
The info Chrisman had access to that might make a gossip rag drool includes addresses of the rich and famous, criminal records, birth dates, driving records, vehicle registrations, Social Security numbers, restraining orders and the occasional unlisted phone number.
Given that we'd all like to get a peek at Halle Berry's driving record or to place Jennifer Aniston's digits on our speed dial, the data from the U.S. Department of Justice is regulated by federal and state laws as accessible by LAPD only for duty-related reasons. An online warning reminds users that a violation can result in criminal prosecution.
The LAPD learned of Chrisman's curious computer habits after Truhan alerted them in 2000 that her former boyfriend had used his position on the force to stalk her by tracking her new number and address. In the suit, Truhan also claimed that while the two were dating, Chrisman physically threatened her if she ever told anyone that he was moonlighting as a gossip maven for the National Enquirer.
According to sources quoted by the L.A. Times, Chrisman's phone records, pulled by the LAPD, show several calls placed to senior Enquirer reporter Cindy Solomon, who refused to comment on their relationship.
Calls to the National Enquirer were not returned.
Based on their findings, LAPD investigators tried to prosecute Chrisman in April 2001, but the district attorney's office declined to file charges, because the one-year statute of limitations had expired. Instead, Truhan's accusations sparked an internal-affairs investigation.
Chrisman's main defence to the disciplinary board is that he was acting on 1995 orders from department brass to create a computerized map pinpointing the VIPs living in the area he patroled, including celebs, CEOs, sports figures and other important people. Among those on Chrisman's cartography list: Sharon Stone, Dylan McDermott, Kim Delaney, Mickey Rourke, Dionne Warwick and Berry Gordy.
But an investigation found no evidence of the mapping project Chrisman claimed to be working on, and LAPD officials denied the tracking assignment.
"I don't understand why you were running these people," Captain James Rubert, head of the disciplinary board, was quoted as saying in the hearing transcripts. "You were in the police car? And you are running people that...aren't a threat to the community, aren't victims of crime, aren't asking for your assistance--going about their daily work like everybody else."
"I wanted to know who lived in my area," replied Chrisman, according to the transcripts. "If there is a potential problem, I could keep a list myself?and I did."
Currently under internal investigation for domestic violence against Truhan and misuse of LAPD computers, Chrisman's next hearing is slated for April 15.
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Post by jack on Nov 9, 2020 9:01:19 GMT -6
Look at this March 23, 1970 UPI news report. It states clearly that then private lawyer Ira Reiner (he will become District Attorney for Los Angeles) is a friend of Charles Manson.
Monday, March 23rd, 1970 1 LOS ANGELES, Mar. 23 – As the Sharon Tate murder case moved slowly toward trial last week, the prosecution gained a new star witness and Charles Manson gained a new lawyer — who has never tried a case.
Manson, the leader of a nomadic band of young people accused of killing Miss Tate and six others, fired his court-appointed attorney and hired Ronald Hughes, a bearded man of 35 who passed the bar only last June.
The district attorney’s office, meanwhile, was moving to counteract Manson’s maneuvers to unhinge the case they have been constructing against him and four of his “family” members.
A fifth follower accused in the killings, Charles Watson, is still fighting extradition from Texas and probably will be tried separately. Manson and the four followers—Susan Atkins, Linda Kasabian, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel—are scheduled for trial on April 20.
As pieced together from several sources who wish to remain anonymous, here are the recent developments in the celebrated murder case.
The family members were indicted by a grand jury last fall mainly on testimony given by Miss Atkins, who also published a first-person article describing the grisly murders.
Shortly thereafter, Manson began exerting what is apparently a tremendous hold over his followers. His strategy was to gather all the family members under a common defense so none of them would testify against each other.
First, Miss Van Houten dismissed her court-appointed lawyer and selected Ira Reiner, a friend of Manson’s. Then Miss Krenwinkel suddenly stopped fighting extradition from Alabama and agreed to return to Los Angeles to face trial.
“It was incredible,” said a person close to the case. “Manson got Krenwinkel back with one phone call.”
Last month, Miss Atkins met with Manson. Within days she fired her attorney, Richard Caballero, and announced that she would repudiate her grand-jury testimony and refuse to take the stand at the trial.
Manson acted as his own attorney for several months until the court declared him incompetent to do so and appointed Charles Hollopeter to represent him. But Manson fired Hollopeter last week when the lawyer suggested that his client take a psychiatric examination; at that point Manson appointed Hughes, an old friend.
The district attorney’s office was reportedly very concerned about these developments. They have some physical evidence, such as fingerprints and a gun believed to be the murder weapon. But they would have a much better case, particularly against Manson, if they had first-hand testimony.
According to Miss Atkins’ public statements, Manson instructed his followers to kill the occupants of the house rented by Miss Tate, but never appeared on the scene
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Post by jack on Nov 9, 2020 8:56:51 GMT -6
Abigail Folger's mothers obituary from 2007. It confirms that she had the chance to have come into contact with Charles Manson as she volunteered her time at the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic. www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=ines-mejia-folger&pid=91307799Also I dont know if this is well known but Killer Cult President Jimmy Carter, his Drug Czar , Peter Bourne was also employed in 1967 at the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic. By the time Peter Bourne and Jimmy C. got into the WH, Jimmy's town of Atlanta was exploding with dead children.
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 8:50:52 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 8:47:47 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 9, 2020 8:41:46 GMT -6
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 9, 2020 8:21:02 GMT -6
Uh, you know you can edit your posts, right? Yes, it's pretty likely that the "black virgin" Mary's are probably "Queen of the Night," etc. "Holy blood, Holy Grail" gets a lot of the religious history of Western Christendom right. The circled crosshair, like the swastika, is also used to represent the "black sun," a potent creative force. It's also a hundred (or a thousand) other things. If the gobbledegook about the Moro/Tad-Tad death cult in the 408 is the least bit significant (and I think it's VERY significant in the Death Angels/Zebra Murders case) then it was prrrrrobably the "black sun." The Moros, like the Thuggees, were essentially gnosticism masquerading as "Tibetan Buddhism" masquerading as Islam, the way Christian Science Mormonism, etc masquerade as Christianity. And they worshipped the power of the Black Sun.
FWIW, we got a good look at the 2017 total eclipse here. No photograph or movie effect could come within a thousand lightyears (get it?) of doing it justice. I've seen a lot of awesome things. But I've never seen ANYTHING like that eclipse. I've "seen" partial eclipses. They're nothing. You can only "see" one through special protective lenses. You can only safely look at an annular eclipse the same way. But that Black Sun is a complete and total mind-blower.
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Post by kmik on Nov 9, 2020 8:06:53 GMT -6
It's hard for me to say what I think happened because there's a lot in this case to take into account - and I'm like Hope in that my theories change all the time. I can definitely see the drug angle and Doug Thomas said that on the documentary and I could see either boy being a narc. But the boys could have been picked up by anyone from 6:30 - midnight questioned, tortured, killed, and dumped long before they made it home to 28 plus the killer wouldn't have risked having witnesses around to deal with even if his original intent was not to kill but just confront. Anyone who knew Johnny good enough to know where he lived knew he lived in a house full of people. If it was some random pedophile why would they choose to leave the boys? Why choose to leave witnesses?
I understand very little when it comes to autopsies but hasn't it been said that Dana was the least injured of them all? Sue is the one who was able to fight back so I can see her being gagged because she walked in on what was happening and wouldn't stop screaming so she was gagged to shut her up.
To think about what these people went through before they died is heartbreaking. To think about what the surviving kids went though is beyond heartbreaking and traumatic and very understandable that a child would simple choose to forget and not have to revisit. But these kids are adults now and this case 40 years old so I don't think it's heartless to say that they should tell what they know if it's only that they were told by Tina to get into the closet - but they have yet to do that which leaves many to believe they knew who was in the house and why. To remain silent, due to fear, until Tina was found dead is understandable but that does not answer why they refuse to talk about it now - especially with Dmac calling Sheila and liar and killer you'd think if they knew something they would at least step forward for their sis.
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Post by johnreno on Nov 8, 2020 23:12:31 GMT -6
I hear you Hope, and fundamentally agree. The issue I have with “Tina as the focus” theories is that if she did have a willing love/friendship with any man old enough to drive a car, the abduction would be too easy. I’m not seeing any history that suggests Tina was so resentful of Sue that she had to arrange this level of mayhem to escape her family. Yes way too many pedophiles per capita in this quaint little town, but if Tina was the goal, the cabin 28 incident was totally unnecessary.
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