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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:57:25 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:54:35 GMT -6
Original Police Document + Transcript - Dennis Forcino's Crime Scene Report  81-1644 supp pq 1 of 4 4-17-81 187 P.C. MURDER HAMMER/KNIFE 4-12-81 at approx 0930 hrs. Sgt Brubaker and I were contacted by Deputy Thrall at Antelope Lake and advised of a triple homicide at Keddie. Sqt. Brubaker and I responded to Keddie and to the crime scene at cabin #28 Keddie. We were briefed by Sgt. Shaver, Assistant Sheriff Shanks, and Dep. Klement. We entered the house and saw three bodies lying in the living room. The body closest to the door was identified as John Sharp, age 15 years. The second body into the room was identified as Dana Wingate, age 17 yrs. The third body was identified as Glena Sharp, age 36 yrs. I was at the scene for a short time before I went back to Quincy with Sqt. Brubaker to pick up another camera and investigation Kit. Sqt. Brubaker and I then went back to tho scene to assist with the investigation. I assisted in takinq the photographs for awhile and was advised by Assistant Sheriff Shanks and Sheriff Thomas that I was to Transport the bodies to Sacramento to the Coroners Office at 4400 V St. where the atopsies (autopsies) would be performed by Pathologist Dr.Rooney on 4-13-81. I transported and delivered the bodies to 4400 Y St. where I removed them from the body bags and tagged them for identification. 4-13-81 I attended the Atopsies (autopsies) which were performed by Dr. Rooney. I collected evidence as Dr. Rooney removed it from the bodies. I marked the evidence placed it in paper bags. I took photos of the evidence and the wounds as the Atopsies (autopsies) progressed.I finished my investigation at the Coroners office at approx 1930 hrs. I then delivered one item of evidence to DOJ Sacramento and started toward Redding to deliver the other items. D.Forcino #1D2 D.Forcino |
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:49:41 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:40:41 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:38:21 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 23:36:01 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 22:55:56 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 11, 2020 22:19:48 GMT -6
I'm very sorry you had to go through something like that John. Glad to hear you and your brother are ok. And you are right, in situations like that protecting family is priority.
I too believe Sue came out trying to protect her family. The lack of defensive wounds on John and Dana definitely seems like they were taken by surprise. Didnt expect things to take such a turn. I think yours is a very plausible scenario, especially when you take into consideration:
• The multiple reports of John & Dana at the least smoking weed
• Several people claiming stolen drugs (acid being specifically mentioned) were the reason the murders happened.
• Reported past incidents of drugs (weed) being stolen & blamed on Johnny
• Don & Nancy Davis both told PCSO Johnny was difficult/out of control, got into fights at school and smoked drugs.
• Dana's pants being partially unzipped
• Johnny's wallet being found thrown behind the sofa
We know PCSO claimed no drugs were found in the victims system yet we have never seen the actual report confirming this. Police departments withhold information all time, its possible they just didn't want it out they were seriously looking into drug angles.
I still feel someone in Tina's periphery could have been responsible. However, something with the boys is up there as well. And I agree, people out there know more than they have said, especially perhaps the people close to Dana & living in the group home at the time.
It would be nice to hear more about this "confirmed ride home" of the boys' that night. Why has this person not been named, are they not credible? Why would Kathy not want to ride them home herself as she promised? I dont buy that she didn't want people to know about she & Dana. Seems people already knew about the affair, Dana & Johnny were at her place that day, why not ride them home as well, why call a family friend to do it? Why wait 35+ years to come forward with that information? Everyone knew police were looking for the person who rode the boys home so the could hopefully eliminate that scenario. I doubt PCSO would think a woman, on her own, could commit the crime, so I cant see her being that concerned of being responsible for the crime, (especially if she was bartending that night?).
I know the Meeks & Marilyn are completely unreliable but wasn't Gamberg's wife in the college computer class with this mystery woman, Sue & Marty? Wouldn't Gamberg's wife have also known or suspected Marty & Sue were having an affair at that time? There are no other reports of Marty & Sue having an affair (other than the anonymous note to the HS counselor). People from Quincy used to be on the old forums, yet this rumor never came up from anyone else?
And finally, it is too bad PCOS did not seem to follow up on the Howard lead. Or if they did we have never seen any reports of it. I'd love to hear what he had to say & find out his whereabouts that night. He may just check off all the marks - older (at least than Tina, John & Dana), supposedly knew all the victims, involved in the drug scene, suspect in a similar murder of a young girl (his own sister), left the area immediately after & behaved strangely afterward.
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Post by james1983 on Nov 11, 2020 18:26:35 GMT -6
All the Kabbalah is is an interpretation of the Babylonian Talmud. It's claimed by people who believe in it to be dated to the 3rd century, which is obviously false. The farthest it can be traced back is to the 13th century "rabbi" named Moses De Leon. There's no difference in its teachings than any other occult philosophy, just the verbiage is changed around. I agree it's all garbage, but it shouldn't be underestimated, too many prominent people believe it's. That's my only point in even commenting about it.
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Post by mysteriouscourtier on Nov 11, 2020 13:35:22 GMT -6
I'll go ahead and start making a point I'm going to get around to eventually, anyway: An awful lot of this "cult murder" stuff (especially from 1969-1989) swirls around an awful lot of murders that are quite simply obvious mafia-related hits. And by obvious, I mean, every time investigators come upon evidence of mob involvement, they shut down the investigation and hold a press conference to announce something like "Psycho!" or "Cult!" Professor Horan - I just wanted to say, that I think this is an astute observation. Thank you. Before it was decided to pin the Adam Walsh abduction & murder on Ottis Toole, I did sometimes wonder - if there was no evidence of a crazed sex predator involved, could this have been a "message" to one of his family members? And, sadly, we've had some examples of this here in recent years. Where the younger sibling of a youth involved in gang drug-dealing, who is welching on his debts, is targeted in a drive-by shooting or abducted, murdered and dumped. Police are aware of the underlying connections, but if they were not, these might seem mysterious motiveless targeting of random children. They are not, though. |
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