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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 2:20:11 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 2:09:50 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 2:05:12 GMT -6
Original Police Document - Additional Evidence Sheet: Car, Chunks of Wall, etc:  |
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Post by johnreno on Nov 12, 2020 1:41:13 GMT -6
Thanks Hope. Yes it was difficult in the moment, and it took a while for us to feel normal again. This was the late 90s and gang apparel was the fashion for many teens and young people (with no gang affiliation). It took a good six months before the hair the back of my neck to not respond to the sight of a “gangster” in the checkout line.
The thing is, my brother and I both agree that had we been alone we would have responded differently. Neither of us wanted to be the cause of harm coming to the other. I think muggers especially are aware of this dynamic and often seek out couples and pairs. We were attacked by a group, but I think even solo attackers learn they have an edge when victims are wary of provoking harm to a loved one. Which brings me back to the profiler’s mention of control in cabin 28. On the surface it looks like chaos, but this guy is confident. He’s done it before.
On your other points: my basis for calling Dana and/or Johnny as the primary focus is largely because they were feral kids. If Sue and/or Tina were the focus, the attackers could have come by, almost literally, at any other time of the day or night and not had to contend with two able-bodied teenagers. I know this raises the question that Johnny and Dana could have been confronted elsewhere, but it puts emphasis on the issue of who gave the ride home, and why. If Johnny was suspected of stealing drugs, maybe there was motive to search his residence.
Agree with you on the toxicology report on ALL victims. Let’s see it.
As above, Tina could have been targeted, but she was also feral (unsupervised) and even a garden variety child predator could have easily absconded with her. No need for 3+1 murder mayhem.
The ride home is weird. Kathy B is reported to have a place in E Quincy, but her parents house is a 2 min walk (through the Downtown Trailer Park) from the gas station where J&D are reported to be hanging out on 4/11. The confusion and concealment here is frustrating. I don’t believe any woman was involved in this crime (much less Sheila).
Any rumor about sex between Marty and any other person outside his marriage I take with a grain of salt. Marty was obsessed with Marilyn, and ironically moralistic despite being a grifter himself.
The Howard angle. Totally agree. There are so many common points of contact, from Kathy H, to Lynette M, and (finally?) cabin 28. Do we have anyone in Yuba County who could run Kathy’s DNA, do they even have her DNA? I know it was early days, but if they have her clothes, maybe something?
Btw, Gary M is not on my list for any of these crimes, but at what point do you have to ask yourself “why am I one degree away from the stabbing deaths of 5(6) people, including my own sister?” Who are the people in common with Gary and the victims?
Just my observations. If I missed something, please correct me.
JR
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 1:24:10 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 1:04:30 GMT -6
Police Search Report of Marty Smartt's Property re: Land Disturbance on the Property. Per report the disturbance appeared to be due repair work performed to a pipe connected to the septic tank.  |
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:52:48 GMT -6
I believe this diagram is of Johnny based on his autopsy report:  "Beneath the wounds labeled 5 and 6 on the diagram on the left side of the individual's head exist 2 round depressed skull fractures. Each is 1/4 inch across, and they are connected by an isthmus of fracture which is also depressed and is approximately 1/4 inch wide. The depression of the superior fracture is 1/2 inch. Brain tissue is protruding from this superior fracture." |
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:37:09 GMT -6
Original Police Report + Transcription - Kathy Howard comparison to the Keddie Murders See also these two threads re: Steven Howard & Monty Baxter: • zodiackillerhoax1986.freeforums.net/thread/155/steve-howard• zodiackillerhoax1986.freeforums.net/thread/181/monte-monty 187/207 Homicide/Kidnap Hammer/ Knife Sharp/ Wingate C28 Keddie 7-1- 81, I have reviewed the homicide case in which Kathy Howard was murdered in 1973, refer case 7737113 PCSO. Included in the similarities between that case and this case are: 1. The young age of the victim. Howard being 14yrs old and (with the exception v/ G. (Sue) Sharp) the victims of this case are very young. Tina being 12 yr. 2. The method of use to kill. Howard was beaten and stabbed. She had two round ( approx. 5/8” ) depressed fractures on top of her skull . From the drawing by the pathologist it appears to me that they could have been made by the use of a hammer or similar object. Her throat was cut as if attempt was made to cut the jugular. She was also stabbed in the eye. In the Sharp case, the victims were beaten about the head with a hammer and they were stabbed/ V/J (John) Sharp showed evidence of his throat being cut as if an attempt was made to cut the jugular. . V/G Sharp was stabbed in the throat. In both cases the major center of violence was to the head. 3. Treatment prior to death. In both cases there was abuse prior to death. 4. Clothing. In both cases the victims were dressed when found Items that were NOT consistent include: 1. Bindings. In the Sharp case the victims were bound by tape and cord. Reporting officer: D. Stoy |
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:26:06 GMT -6
Original Police Report - Possible relevance of Feather Falls / Child Procurement Info From An Confidential Informant  |
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:17:31 GMT -6
Original Police Reports - PCSO Stoy's Evidence & Photographic Report Pages 7-9:    |
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:14:38 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:04:45 GMT -6
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Post by hope on Nov 12, 2020 0:01:31 GMT -6
Original Police Report - Stoy's Crime Scene Report. There should be 8 pages to this report but I could only locate 4 pages. Pages 1-2:   |
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