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Dec 18, 2019 13:56:20 GMT -6
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Post by jmo on Dec 18, 2019 13:56:20 GMT -6
Or...maybe Sue was the "right" girl but Marty was the "wrong" guy. We have Baze and Josephson at the bar vying for Sue's attention. Those weren't Marty's stompin' grounds.
Rumor started by Judy Lepley, Pioneer Bar (Greenville *Russell, David. *Maple Leaf Bar.)
Dmac:PCSO were told Marty and Sue were having an affair, were seen together at the bar. Gamberg, years later.
Reported Marty was possesive and jealous towards her.
Mike spoke to the source from 1981. Then verified it with another person. Gamberg wife?
-Note to high school couselor. Handwritten notebook paper. Everytime I read the word "handwritten" I get queazy.
-Josh's producer spread rumors of Marty and Sue.
Bars
Back Door bar.
see *Jack Brown, Manager
see *Jan Albin, Back Door Bar.
see *Kathy Andreas, waitress at Back Door Bar.
Pioneer Bar. Greenville.
see *Judy Lepley. (Started) rumor about see *Affair, Marty and Sue
Maple Leaf Bar.
see *Patrons
see *Michelle Curran. "Mickey"
see *Russell, Dave: Bartender at Maple Leaf Bar. MLB is 22 miles from Keddie.
see *Mitchell, Alton: Male bartender? 3 other people/Kathy
Bartenders
see *Judy Lepley
Pat Sloaterman got her info from Algers.
How the bartender ended up giving J & D a ride to Keddie: *Kathy Beckley had no gas so she called her mother who called the bartender. (They were friends.)
Gamberg: 3/25/15: "After the homocide I was employed as a bartender at the Back Door Bar". see *matches see *Mike Plyer #16
**Female bartender + Karl wasn't there + Marty was seeing Sue =
**Marilyn, Sue, and Linda Gamberg had a typing class together.
**Sue, Marty and (the bartender) were in another typing class together.
**Bartender says Sue and Marty were an item in Nov 1980. Sue dropped out after 9/18/80. see *Reid, Russell, Feather River College.
Baze, Joe Reno
Met Sue at the Pioneer Bowling alley 6 weeks prior to 4/11. He invited her to his place. She invited him to dinner at her place the following night.
Saw her two times. Talked on the phone a lot.
see *Pioneer Bar/Patrons
Said the only trouble either J & D had was with Steve G. (Bradley)
4/12 3:45 Joe Baze returns home to EQ from Standish (Brubaker)
Is he the cause of Josephson's jealousy? Pioneer Bar?
Born Jan 26, 1937 died 5/22/1982
3:45 Joe left Q enroute to girlfriend Helen Johnson's in Susanville (Bradley) he had been married 3 times. Divorce to be final end of April (Brubaker)
He invited Sue over the first time he met her.
4/12 10 am? Joe returns from Susanville to his sister's home in Standish. Got back to Q @3:45 Sunday pm (Brubaker)
Joe and Helen close down the Pioneer Bar. Stay at her home/Susanville
Joe Baze leaves EQ to take his kids to his sister's. Irma T. in Standish and then to Helen's. Then to Pioneer Bar until 2 am. (Brubaker)
Said Sue disagreed on religion and things. He didn't want to see her any more. But it wasn't over his drinking. (Brubaker)
Did Joe see/know Karl Spang? Pioneer Bar.
Could Sue have been the right girl and Marty the wrong guy? Or, both? Wrong girl, wrong guy?
Mike worked at Keddie bar 1982. (Just after 4/11)
Mike was given access to all the murder files at the same time Josh "stole" them from the office. (Josh replaced/with copies)
As special inv Gam took over a small room in the sheriff's offices and began sifting through the evidence which included 12 or more boxes and a "freezer full of stuff", all stored in various places around quincy. He also obtained access to evidence collected in Butte County, where Tina was found.
Dmac: I saw a file that was clearly an original file. I then got as many documents out of him that I could.
Dmac: I even coaxed him into giving me the original-and only known- tape of the interview between Bo and Crim/Bradley.
Dmac: Once it was clear he wasn't going to send anything else, I exposed him. I removed everything from his site-the main site and the forum.
Dmac: It took a year for Gamb to approach me about the stolen files. I'd put the files away for safekeeping in a "cool, dry place" and it took me months to find the files.
Gamb: Back when I found the tape, I found a folder in the same box. Filled with photocopied reports I'd never seen before.
Dmac and Gamberg might have had access to documents and files, but any rumors out of PCSO came from Gamberg. JMO
Rumor started by Judy Lepley, Pioneer Bar (Greenville *Russell, David. *Maple Leaf Bar.)
Dmac:PCSO were told Marty and Sue were having an affair, were seen together at the bar. Gamberg, years later.
Reported Marty was possesive and jealous towards her.
Mike spoke to the source from 1981. Then verified it with another person. Gamberg wife?
-Note to high school couselor. Handwritten notebook paper. Everytime I read the word "handwritten" I get queazy.
-Josh's producer spread rumors of Marty and Sue.
Bars
Back Door bar.
see *Jack Brown, Manager
see *Jan Albin, Back Door Bar.
see *Kathy Andreas, waitress at Back Door Bar.
Pioneer Bar. Greenville.
see *Judy Lepley. (Started) rumor about see *Affair, Marty and Sue
Maple Leaf Bar.
see *Patrons
see *Michelle Curran. "Mickey"
see *Russell, Dave: Bartender at Maple Leaf Bar. MLB is 22 miles from Keddie.
see *Mitchell, Alton: Male bartender? 3 other people/Kathy
Bartenders
see *Judy Lepley
Pat Sloaterman got her info from Algers.
How the bartender ended up giving J & D a ride to Keddie: *Kathy Beckley had no gas so she called her mother who called the bartender. (They were friends.)
Gamberg: 3/25/15: "After the homocide I was employed as a bartender at the Back Door Bar". see *matches see *Mike Plyer #16
**Female bartender + Karl wasn't there + Marty was seeing Sue =
**Marilyn, Sue, and Linda Gamberg had a typing class together.
**Sue, Marty and (the bartender) were in another typing class together.
**Bartender says Sue and Marty were an item in Nov 1980. Sue dropped out after 9/18/80. see *Reid, Russell, Feather River College.
Baze, Joe Reno
Met Sue at the Pioneer Bowling alley 6 weeks prior to 4/11. He invited her to his place. She invited him to dinner at her place the following night.
Saw her two times. Talked on the phone a lot.
see *Pioneer Bar/Patrons
Said the only trouble either J & D had was with Steve G. (Bradley)
4/12 3:45 Joe Baze returns home to EQ from Standish (Brubaker)
Is he the cause of Josephson's jealousy? Pioneer Bar?
Born Jan 26, 1937 died 5/22/1982
3:45 Joe left Q enroute to girlfriend Helen Johnson's in Susanville (Bradley) he had been married 3 times. Divorce to be final end of April (Brubaker)
He invited Sue over the first time he met her.
4/12 10 am? Joe returns from Susanville to his sister's home in Standish. Got back to Q @3:45 Sunday pm (Brubaker)
Joe and Helen close down the Pioneer Bar. Stay at her home/Susanville
Joe Baze leaves EQ to take his kids to his sister's. Irma T. in Standish and then to Helen's. Then to Pioneer Bar until 2 am. (Brubaker)
Said Sue disagreed on religion and things. He didn't want to see her any more. But it wasn't over his drinking. (Brubaker)
Did Joe see/know Karl Spang? Pioneer Bar.
Could Sue have been the right girl and Marty the wrong guy? Or, both? Wrong girl, wrong guy?
Mike worked at Keddie bar 1982. (Just after 4/11)
Mike was given access to all the murder files at the same time Josh "stole" them from the office. (Josh replaced/with copies)
As special inv Gam took over a small room in the sheriff's offices and began sifting through the evidence which included 12 or more boxes and a "freezer full of stuff", all stored in various places around quincy. He also obtained access to evidence collected in Butte County, where Tina was found.
Dmac: I saw a file that was clearly an original file. I then got as many documents out of him that I could.
Dmac: I even coaxed him into giving me the original-and only known- tape of the interview between Bo and Crim/Bradley.
Dmac: Once it was clear he wasn't going to send anything else, I exposed him. I removed everything from his site-the main site and the forum.
Dmac: It took a year for Gamb to approach me about the stolen files. I'd put the files away for safekeeping in a "cool, dry place" and it took me months to find the files.
Gamb: Back when I found the tape, I found a folder in the same box. Filled with photocopied reports I'd never seen before.
Dmac and Gamberg might have had access to documents and files, but any rumors out of PCSO came from Gamberg. JMO