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Post by ace on Dec 21, 2020 14:53:34 GMT -6
On the other hand, I'm not totally convinced that Maury's efforts were entirely honorable all the time, either. His book was a major factor in ginning up the "Satanic Panic" that was then conveniently debunked. Ah, later sections of The Ultimate Evil make more sense in light of the Satanic Panic. He would have been writing the book at the height of that. I picked it up around '92 after the Panic had mostly died down.
You reminded me of something that I haven't seen any threads on. Remember the FBI Vault drop on The Finders? If not, The FBI's official Records Vault Twitter account uploaded a bunch of documents related to The Finders, a child abduction ring, in late 2019. On pages 48 and 49 of section 1 is info on a separate matter, the McMartin Preschool case. Heads exploded, mine included.
Now, how much of the Satanic Panic was legit, how much was pearl clutching over Ozzy Osborne t-shirts or how much was just another chapter in Operation: Scare The Shit Out of Everyone I can't say for sure. I do know it was good for ratings.
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 22, 2020 7:27:47 GMT -6
Jebus. I had no idea. I will start a board on MMPS right now.
My hunch (and that's all it is at the moment) is that the "Satanic Panic" was a Standard Operating Procedure whenever the truth starts to come out--instead of trying to cover up, go ahead and blow the story so far out of proportion yourself that you can then "debunk" it. Perhaps the same principle as shooting two random high school girls coming home from a movie in order to cover up the fact that other shootings are related to the mafia, or whatever.
Am I suggesting that Maury Terry was a willing participant in such a plan? Maybe not. Maybe he was just enabled and encouraged. "Let's put this guy all over your TV network..."
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Post by scout on May 30, 2021 19:17:16 GMT -6
Jebus. I had no idea. I will start a board on MMPS right now. My hunch (and that's all it is at the moment) is that the "Satanic Panic" was a Standard Operating Procedure whenever the truth starts to come out--instead of trying to cover up, go ahead and blow the story so far out of proportion yourself that you can then "debunk" it. Perhaps the same principle as shooting two random high school girls coming home from a movie in order to cover up the fact that other shootings are related to the mafia, or whatever. Am I suggesting that Maury Terry was a willing participant in such a plan? Maybe not. Maybe he was just enabled and encouraged. "Let's put this guy all over your TV network..." Future LA Mayor James Hahn was one of the named McMartin suspects. His father was the most powerful local politician in LA. The final prosecutor of the McMartin case was like another Bugliosi cover-up artist, seemingly. Ira Reiner was that prosecutor, and he previously served as Susan Atkins' defense lawyer, working with Bugliosi. He simply dropped 90% of the charges in the McMartin case for no reason, and then it was hung juries on the remaining charges. He also prosecuted the Richard Ramirez case, but I don't know of any prosecutorial misconduct from that case. Reiner and James Hahn knew each other very well, and every time Reiner got promoted, it was James Hahn who took over Reiner's old job. "He was the Los Angeles city controller from 1977 to 1981, and was the Los Angeles city attorney from 1981 to 1984, both times being succeeded by James Hahn." Another named suspect was this lady, a school board member: "Roberta Weintraub, a nationally-recognized leader in education and philanthropy, passed away peacefully on January 1, 2019. A tireless champion of young people, particularly those in underserved communities, Roberta became known for her outspokenness and willingness to take on important issues, however controversial." www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=roberta-lynn-weintraub&pid=191192022en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hahn#:~:text=%28August%202018%29%20James%20Kenneth%20Hahn%20%28born%20July%203%2C,he%20was%20defeated%20in%20his%20bid%20for%20re-election. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_ReinerThe pedo ring was flying the kids out of Hawthorne Municipal Airport, which combined with neighboring LAX housing the bulk of the US aerospace industry. Apparently the guy who built the preschool, McMartin senior I believe, was an employee of Howard Hughes' aerospace company. So I think the theory is that the cult was tied in with MIC/aerospace/top secret clearance stuff. Maybe OTO like Jack Parsons types, I don't know. Off topic but before I forget, Ghislaine Maxwell's sister Christine Maxwell married the son of Frank Molina, the satanist/communist co-founder of Jet Propulsion Lab along with Jack Parsons. Back to McMartin, in the cover-up book "Anatomy of The McMartin Trial", they even admit that Ira Reiner specifically selected jurors who declared themselves highly skeptical of the charges against the Buckeys. But the author of that book brushes it off like it's not significant. OH, and the first McMartin "debunk" book was written by a married couple of child pornographers, the Eberles. Their book was the basis of Oliver Stone's HBO propaganda movie "Indictment". And the script for that movie was written by a dude named Abby Mann, whose stepson was Israeli special forces. Abby Mann PAID A PROSECUTOR to quit the McMartin case, and to take his files with him so they couldn't be used in the case. Abby Mann on writing about the McMartin preschool trial Abby Mann on the "Atlanta Child Murders" The Eberles pedo porn mag:
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Post by scout on May 30, 2021 19:32:35 GMT -6
Another named suspect was another preschool owner nicknamed "Wolfman", Robert Hamill Winkler. Worth noting that the next big satanic pedo ring in the news after McMartin was at a Chicago Jewish Community Center. And just 5 years ago, a case identical to McMartin popped up in Jerusalem, Israel. Ira Reiner, Abby Mann, Roberta Weintraub, and Winkler all have that affiliation. Maybe the Eberles too. But looking closely at the books and big news articles about McMartin, the two big trends are either that same tribal affiliation, or the McMartin writer would go on to defend pedophilia in some form. Uncharged McMartin Case Suspect Found Dead NOV. 14, 1985 An uncharged suspect in the McMartin Pre-School molestation case has been found dead in his Long Beach apartment, authorities said Wednesday, but the cause of death has not yet been determined. Foul play is not suspected. Robert Hamill Winkler, 35, a sometime oil rigger and handyman who was free on bail while awaiting trial on unrelated child sexual abuse charges involving a Torrance baby-sitting service, died in the early hours of Nov. 6. However, his death was not disclosed until Tuesday when he failed to appear in court with co-defendants Timothy Paul Ricketts, 19, of Lomita and Angela Darnell, 22, of Torrance. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-11-14-me-2362-story.htmlFunny how the news buried the fact that one of the McMartin suspects was busted on separate pedo charges at the same time! The Chicago Rogers Park JCC 1984 mass sexual molestation case, and why those currently attacking the Awareness Center are ignoring it jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2005/05/chicago-rogers-park-jcc-1984-mass.html
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Post by scout on May 30, 2021 21:45:02 GMT -6
www.lukeford.netVicki's 1989 Oprah Appearance I speak Thursday afternoon, May 12, 2005, with a woman who (according to two sources) was in the audience of Vicki's appearance as "Rachel" on the May 1, 1989 Oprah show. Woman: "I had already heard everything before from Vicki so that wasn't shocking to me. Oprah was the one who mentioned that Vicki came from a Jewish family. I know that that was not something that Vicki wanted to put forward on the show. I knew that that would blow up." Luke: "What do you think about the veracity of what Vicki said? Most people would find it hard to believe." Woman: "In 1984, I learned that my little girl, who was four-years-old, was being sexually abused at a Jewish preschool in Chicago [Rogers Park JCC]. I was the whistleblower on that case. They interviewed over 80 children and found that as many as 20 had been sexually abused. "Once I found out what had happened to my child, we took her out of school and got her into therapy. My daughter and several other children began making allegations against their teachers and widespread pervasive abuse involving child pornography and bizarre ritualistic activity. "When I met Vicki, we met through her connection with VOICES in Action (Victims Of Incest Can Emerge Survivors). I was getting involved with the organization Believe The Children, which had been founded by some parents in California who were involved in similar cases, in daycare center, even though they were not Jewish preschools. "I was hearing bizarre accusations from my child and Vicki was recalling similar events from her childhood. I had no reason to doubt [Vicki]." Luke: "You have no doubts there was definitely this type of ritual abuse at the school?" Woman: "There was definitely sexual abuse and physical abuse of the children. As far as the ritual abuse, it's hard to say. Did they really kill babies? I don't know. I do know that the children were convinced that they were killing babies. It may be that they were acting something out with dolls or maybe the children were drugged and led to believe things were happening. There was costuming and special effects involved. I can't say for a fact that they killed a baby. I can say for a fact that my daughter believed that they did." Luke: "Do you find Vicki's reports about her childhood ritual abuse credible?" Woman: "I do because they are not inconsistent with what I heard from my own daughter and what I also heard from a lot of other survivors." jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2005/05/chicago-rogers-park-jcc-1984-mass.html
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Post by Admin Horan on May 31, 2021 8:55:08 GMT -6
Jebus. Okay. Oooooooookay. Every time I think I've killed this website, another Buckaroo comes along and sets my head spinning. Outstanding! Thanks very much!
At this point, I need to dump a spoiler--the actual Process Church of the Final Judgment is, like Carlos the Jackal and Aaron Rodgers, wildly overrated. Not a total myth, but more of the piece of scotch tape holding a hundred dollar bill together, than the hundred dollars itself. They're not "the" cult everyone has been looking for. Soooooo...don't let a lack of association with the Process (or any other specific cult) go ruling anybody out.
In terms of percentage of population, the Orthodox Jewish community has an even BIGGER problem than the Catholic Church when it comes to being infested with pedophiles. Israel has long been a haven for "persecuted" Jewish pedophiles fleeing prosecution in their home countries. And Mossad, like Chinese state security, operates child porn websites to trap potential spies.
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Post by marionumber1 on May 31, 2021 12:43:34 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, scout! I'm so glad there are other people out there who are interested in digging deep into McMartin, and particularly its broader connections. While I believe Ross Cheit has done a valuable service with his book The Witch-Hunt Narrative in proving that abuse really did take place, I think his perception that only Ray Buckey was guilty while the other charges were trumped up still falls short of the mark. To my mind, there would not be such a massive institutional refusal to admit even Buckey's guilt if there wasn't something more to the case. Like you, I found it quite interesting that high-level Los Angeles political figures such as James Hahn and Roberta Weintraub were identified by the children. Ira Reiner is someone I've been suspicious of for many reasons, including the Manson connection like you say; one article ( New York Times, "State Gets New Star Witness in Tate Murder Case and Manson a New Lawyer in Pretrial Maneuvers", 1970/03/23) in fact calls him "a friend of Manson's". I had no idea he willingly chose a juror who was skeptical of the charges, but that doesn't surprise me in the least. One little-noted fact about McMartin is that Reiner was actually identified by the kids as an abuser. From p.289 of Children for the Devil by Tim Tate: Chuck Norris was also identified, and I have actually heard, though have yet to confirm, that he ran a martial arts studio right by the McMartin school. It's interesting you bring up the Jewish Community Center case too, because there is a cover-up artist who was involved in McMartin, the JCC case, and the Finders case: Dr. Nahman Greenberg. From Alex Constantine, "McMartin Preschool Revisited Part III", 1996: Also mentioned in Constantine's article is an indication that McMartin was tied in with the local aerospace industry, like you alluded to: And indeed, Ray Buckey's father Charles Buckey was an engineer for Hughes Aircraft: ( Mary A. Fischer, "RAY BUCKEY: An Exclusive Interview", 1990/04):
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 12:45:09 GMT -6
Jebus. Okay. Oooooooookay. Every time I think I've killed this website, another Buckaroo comes along and sets my head spinning. Outstanding! Thanks very much! At this point, I need to dump a spoiler--the actual Process Church of the Final Judgment is, like Carlos the Jackal and Aaron Rodgers, wildly overrated. Not a total myth, but more of the piece of scotch tape holding a hundred dollar bill together, than the hundred dollars itself. They're not "the" cult everyone has been looking for. Soooooo...don't let a lack of association with the Process (or any other specific cult) go ruling anybody out. In terms of percentage of population, the Orthodox Jewish community has an even BIGGER problem than the Catholic Church when it comes to being infested with pedophiles. Israel has long been a haven for "persecuted" Jewish pedophiles fleeing prosecution in their home countries. And Mossad, like Chinese state security, operates child porn websites to trap potential spies. Son of Sam prosecutor Eugene Gold (Brooklyn DA) scurried off to Israel and promised to get therapy there, after Tennessee dropped his child rape charge after he admitted to it. In the Son of Sam case you had Berkowitz partying at Roy Cohn's house, and Roy Radin's house, both Jewish. Roy Cohn I believe even admitted to running a gay pedo blackmail ring for the CIA. And quite clearly he was using Process Church kids, perhaps among other kids. So when pedo Jew Eugene Gold was covering up the Son of Sam pedo ring, he was in part covering up for his fellow tribesmen in Roy Cohn (Super-Zionist) and Roy Radin. And I believe Ron Sisman was Jewish too. Sisman would have been one of the first dominos to fall after Berkowitz if they investigated honestly. And the Studio 54 guys, also tied into it. Both Jewish. And remember that while behind a lot of this stuff lies the "mafia", the Italian mafia was actually controlled from above by the Jewish Meyer Lansky types. Meyer Lansky basically consolidated all of the Italian (and other) mafia families into "The Syndicate", and Lansky ran it like a corporation. Then Lansky scurried off to Israel like Eugene Gold and so many others. Last night I found a great tie-in of J Edgar Hoover to this Process Church/mafia/Roy Cohn web of child sex traffickers. John Carr's fellow high school freshman was quoted in Maury Terry's Ultimate Evil, but he ALSO gave other interviews at other times that simply leave out the Process Church angle of the pedo prostitute ring: www.cavdef.org/w/index.php?title=Son_of_Sam_murders#Organized_crime_enterprises
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -6
Welcome to the board, scout! I'm so glad there are other people out there who are interested in digging deep into McMartin, and particularly its broader connections. While I believe Ross Cheit has done a valuable service with his book The Witch-Hunt Narrative in proving that abuse really did take place, I think his perception that only Ray Buckey was guilty while the other charges were trumped up still falls short of the mark. To my mind, there would not be such a massive institutional refusal to admit even Buckey's guilt if there wasn't something more to the case. Like you, I found it quite interesting that high-level Los Angeles political figures such as James Hahn and Roberta Weintraub were identified by the children. Ira Reiner is someone I've been suspicious of for many reasons, including the Manson connection like you say; one article ( New York Times, "State Gets New Star Witness in Tate Murder Case and Manson a New Lawyer in Pretrial Maneuvers", 1970/03/23) in fact calls him "a friend of Manson's". I had no idea he willingly chose a juror who was skeptical of the charges, but that doesn't surprise me in the least. One little-noted fact about McMartin is that Reiner was actually identified by the kids as an abuser. From p.289 of Children for the Devil by Tim Tate: Chuck Norris was also identified, and I have actually heard, though have yet to confirm, that he ran a martial arts studio right by the McMartin school. It's interesting you bring up the Jewish Community Center case too, because there is a cover-up artist who was involved in McMartin, the JCC case, and the Finders case: Dr. Nahman Greenberg. From Alex Constantine, "McMartin Preschool Revisited Part III", 1996: Also mentioned in Constantine's article is an indication that McMartin was tied in with the local aerospace industry, like you alluded to: And indeed, Ray Buckey's father Charles Buckey was an engineer for Hughes Aircraft: ( Mary A. Fischer, "RAY BUCKEY: An Exclusive Interview", 1990/04): Thanks for the welcome Mario! And glad you're also interested in the McMartin case. I didn't know Chuck Norris had a karate studio in Manhattan Beach. Interesting to note that the other big Hollywood karate star, Bruce Lee, was close friends with Jay Sebring, and I think he trained Tate and Polanski as well. Entirely plausible that Bruce Lee was in the Process with Sebring/Tate/Polanski. And Chuck Norris' break out film role was a fighting scene with Bruce Lee. I believe they were good friends. Not surprising in the least that Ira Reiner was a named suspect, though I can see how that would make a lot of people skeptical of the children's claims. But pretty crazy how a named McMartin suspect was ACTUALLY busted for being part of a daycare pedo ring, and the police ACTUALLY found black robes/satanic stuff in his house, and the media STILL declared that the WHOLE McMartin case was without merit. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-11-14-me-2362-story.htmlI think 1 or 2 co-founders of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation were also proven to be pedophiles. No surprise there either. Not sure if you knew this, but the ADL was created to defend the "good name" of a Jewish pedophile rapist murderer, Leo Frank. B'Nai B'Rith (Blood of the Chosen) is the Jews-only masonic brotherhood that started the ADL. Leo Frank was president of the Atlanta chapter. He was a child sweatshop factory owner, and he would regularly have child rape parties in the factory with his B'Nai B'Rith buddies. Then one day, after a fight with his wife, he said, "I'm saving my kisses for somebody else". He went to the factory, and 13 year old Mary Phagan walks in to pick up her tiny paycheck. She rejects Leo's advances, and he kills her and rapes her corpse. Leo Frank tried to blame a black guy, then he tried to blame another black guy. But the jury, which included Jews, saw right through his bs and found him guilty. Then the rich NY Jews paid off the governor to remove Frank's death sentence, and Leo Frank was living in his own entire floor of the prison, with no bars and his wife was allowed to hang out there all day. Kinda like Jeffrey Epstein's treatment in prison, where he was allowed to leave all day every day and have sex. Anyway, the upstanding leading citizens of Marrietta, Georgia dragged old Leo Frank out of his jail cell, and hung him from a tree near Mary Phagan's house. This caused the entire US Jewish community to wage war against the white South ever since, as we see with every depiction of a Southern white on TV and movies. The Jews started the ADL to defend Leo Frank's "good name", and they started the NAACP as well. Then in the 80s the Jews even made a Broadway play defending Leo Frank's Innocence, called "Parade!", mocking the "backwards" South for their "anti-Semitism" in finding Leo Frank guilty. Of course it won a Tony Award. In 50 years they'll probably make a Broadway play defending Woody Allen and/or Roman Polanski. Back to present day, and Sacha Baron Cohen's father was the president of the UK chapter of B'Nai B'Rith, which explains Sacha Baron Cohen's entire career. And now we see Sacha is a passionate spokesman for the ADL, demanding that Facebook/Zuckerberg censor any and all criticism of Jews and Israel. B'Nai B'Rith is from the Sabbattean/Frankist/Kabballah/Jewish Mysticism branch of Judaism. CHECK THIS OUT: Sabbatean Frankism As The Paradigm Of The Modern Left – The Rebbe Blog by The Rebbe Blog archive.org/details/SabbateanFrankismAsTheParadigmOfTheModernLeft-TheRebbeBlog/mode/2up The Frankist Jews created the Jewish schizm with Orthodox Jewry that led to the "Jewish Reformation" and the creation of "Reform" and "Conservative" branches of Judaism. That's right, those branches were literally created by quasi-Satanic Frankists. The Rothschilds were early members of Frankism, and the other rich Frankist Jews pooled their money into the Rothschild family, and they financed Adam Weishaupt's takeover of Free Masonry. So even with the Process Church, many decades later, we see that one of their leaders was a Jewish guy whose daddy was the biggest media mogul in England. Sonny boy changed his name to "Hugh Mountain". He was the editor of the Process Magazine, among other roles within Process Leadership.
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 13:24:24 GMT -6
The "Stonewall Riots" at the Stonewall Inn in NYC are now remembered as being sacred and historic, like MLK Jr crossing the bridge in Selma. So interesting to see a Process Church child prostitute taking part in the riots, and indicating a big Stonewall Inn role in the sexual exploitation of runaway children.
"New York Times, "Gay Marchers Celebrate History in 2 Parades", 1994/06/27: "One of the passengers in the Mustang was John Paul Ranieri of Milwaukee, who said he was on his first return visit to New York since the Stonewall clash, during which, he said, he was beaten two nights in a row and had to receive five stitches after a police officer hit him with a flashlight. "The only way I can describe this experience is that it is like a Vietnam vet going back to Saigon for a reunion," he said. "It's not exactly a pleasant experience." Asked how he felt to see police officers lining the route, he said, "I still cringe. But what I find amazing is that they're protecting us today."""
And Stonewall Inn was close to a Process Church bookstore in Greenwich Village, and it was close to Ron Sisman's house as well.
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Post by marionumber1 on May 31, 2021 15:00:26 GMT -6
One thing I should say: I am interested in exploring these cases wherever they lead but, barring something earthshattering, do not agree with big-picture proclamations that make out our systemic corruption to be a primarily Jewish problem. (Or a leftism problem for that matter; I am a left-winger myself, though with very little affinity for what passes as modern-day leftism.) Beyond the awful hatred that such a viewpoint can inspire towards the vast majority of Jewish people who are not in any way part of this activity — I know you have just highlighted a particular problematic element within Judaism, and of course the existence of a problematic element within is something that can be said about nearly every world religion, but that distinction is often lost — it is an overly reductive way of looking at the world. The-powers-that-be are made up of many different groups allied for a common cause, with Jewish supremacists/Zionists being just one. And I think a common strategy of TPTB is to seed disinformational narratives that admit to their own existence but try to make the cabal seem as if it is solely made up of just one of the factions comprising it. In many cases, I believe the overt signs which get interpreted as evidence that Jews are running the show really indicate that Jewish people have been chosen as fronts for the wider network. For instance, I don't know if it can be fairly said that the Jewish-American mafia coopted the Italian-American mafia: Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano were partners in the consolidation of the mob, and their real backers appeared to be the official US corporate/political establishment that helpfully instituted Prohibition to enable their rise to power and has backed their rackets to this day through various arms of the intelligence services. The Bronfmans, a Jewish family deeply involved in those Prohibition rackets, were for much of the time the cutout for a major British liquor corporation. With regard to the US business establishment itself, the Rothschilds, powerful as they are, were among many other old-money families like the Rockefellers, Morgans, and Mellons that were not Jewish, yet the Rothschilds in particular are elevated to a level of importance that I have yet to see backed by any reliable source. The financial firm AIG which shows up in connection with many intelligence operations such as the Mena drug trafficking and 9/11 was run for years by Hank Greenberg; but Greenberg was the handpicked protege of AIG's founder Cornelius Vander Starr, a non-Jewish OSS officer whose company was likely involved in laundering the proceeds of Chinese and Southeast Asian drug money since its inception. Jeffrey Epstein's intelligence ties tend to get presented mainly as Israeli, but he has just as many to US intelligence: he was hired to his initial teaching job by OSS agent Donald Barr, his likely handler Les Wexner was involved with CIA drug trafficking front Southern Air Transport, he was a prime suspect in the murder of Mossad/KGB/MI6 agent Robert Maxwell after which he seemed to become Ghislaine's chaperone, and he used a plane tail number previously belonging to a crashed Plan Colombia plane of US military/intelligence contractor DynCorp. Some of this spy intrigue can admittedly be interpreted in various different directions, but I think that's part of why we need to be careful about assuming that these operations are Jewish plots at heart even if that is the outward appearance. This is a massive spiderweb full of US spies, Israeli spies, mafias of various ethnicities, business leaders here and around the world, ......., and it's hard to know precisely who is pulling whose chain, if anyone truly is. I don't want this to come across as a hostile welcome especially since you've been coming in with so much valuable info; still, I am quite sensitive to the way Jewish people are commonly talked about in the parapolitical research world and wanted to be upfront about my own take. That information on the Leo Frank story is intriguing; I'd only vaguely heard of the story before, but from how you describe it, it is yet another tragic instance of these elite pedophile rings whose exposure by a small number of honest local individuals was ultimately sabotaged from on high. I will have to do a lot more investigation of that case. If the ADL was in fact formed because of "discrimination" against a Jewish pedophile who was protected due to his wealth and connections, well, it's harder to imagine a bigger fuck-you to society. The ADL, for what it's worth, partnered with US spooks like "former" CIA officer and SFPD intelligence officer Thomas Gerard during its infamous 80s/90s spying scandal, ensuring that both entities got valuable things out of the arrangement.
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 15:53:42 GMT -6
One thing I should say: I am interested in exploring these cases wherever they lead but, barring something earthshattering, do not agree with big-picture proclamations that make out our systemic corruption to be a primarily Jewish problem. (Or a leftism problem for that matter; I am a left-winger myself, though with very little affinity for what passes as modern-day leftism.) Beyond the awful hatred that such a viewpoint can inspire towards the vast majority of Jewish people who are not in any way part of this activity — I know you have just highlighted a particular problematic element within Judaism, and of course the existence of a problematic element within is something that can be said about nearly every world religion, but that distinction is often lost — it is an overly reductive way of looking at the world. The-powers-that-be are made up of many different groups allied for a common cause, with Jewish supremacists/Zionists being just one. And I think a common strategy of TPTB is to seed disinformational narratives that admit to their own existence but try to make the cabal seem as if it is solely made up of just one of the factions comprising it. In many cases, I believe the overt signs which get interpreted as evidence that Jews are running the show really indicate that Jewish people have been chosen as fronts for the wider network. For instance, I don't know if it can be fairly said that the Jewish-American mafia coopted the Italian-American mafia: Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano were partners in the consolidation of the mob, and their real backers appeared to be the official US corporate/political establishment that helpfully instituted Prohibition to enable their rise to power and has backed their rackets to this day through various arms of the intelligence services. The Bronfmans, a Jewish family deeply involved in those Prohibition rackets, were for much of the time the cutout for a major British liquor corporation. With regard to the US business establishment itself, the Rothschilds, powerful as they are, were among many other old-money families like the Rockefellers, Morgans, and Mellons that were not Jewish, yet the Rothschilds in particular are elevated to a level of importance that I have yet to see backed by any reliable source. The financial firm AIG which shows up in connection with many intelligence operations such as the Mena drug trafficking and 9/11 was run for years by Hank Greenberg; but Greenberg was the handpicked protege of AIG's founder Cornelius Vander Starr, a non-Jewish OSS officer whose company was likely involved in laundering the proceeds of Chinese and Southeast Asian drug money since its inception. Jeffrey Epstein's intelligence ties tend to get presented mainly as Israeli, but he has just as many to US intelligence: he was hired to his initial teaching job by OSS agent Donald Barr, his likely handler Les Wexner was involved with CIA drug trafficking front Southern Air Transport, he was a prime suspect in the murder of Mossad/KGB/MI6 agent Robert Maxwell after which he seemed to become Ghislaine's chaperone, and he used a plane tail number previously belonging to a crashed Plan Colombia plane of US military/intelligence contractor DynCorp. Some of this spy intrigue can admittedly be interpreted in various different directions, but I think that's part of why we need to be careful about assuming that these operations are Jewish plots at heart even if that is the outward appearance. This is a massive spiderweb full of US spies, Israeli spies, mafias of various ethnicities, business leaders here and around the world, ......., and it's hard to know precisely who is pulling whose chain, if anyone truly is. I don't want this to come across as a hostile welcome especially since you've been coming in with so much valuable info; still, I am quite sensitive to the way Jewish people are commonly talked about in the parapolitical research world and wanted to be upfront about my own take. That information on the Leo Frank story is intriguing; I'd only vaguely heard of the story before, but from how you describe it, it is yet another tragic instance of these elite pedophile rings whose exposure by a small number of honest local individuals was ultimately sabotaged from on high. I will have to do a lot more investigation of that case. If the ADL was in fact formed because of "discrimination" against a Jewish pedophile who was protected due to his wealth and connections, well, it's harder to imagine a bigger fuck-you to society. The ADL, for what it's worth, partnered with US spooks like "former" CIA officer and SFPD intelligence officer Thomas Gerard during its infamous 80s/90s spying scandal, ensuring that both entities got valuable things out of the arrangement. Even newer information is showing that white Americans are about the 5th or 6th highest earning income group in the US, and the top 4-5 earning ethnic groups in the US ALL benefit from Affirmative Action special treatment, while whites collectively face literal systemic discrimination in the form of Affirmative Action. The entire Marxist/Communist/Trotskyite/Cultural Marxist movements inside the US were created and dominated by the Jewish community. And they downplayed and dismissed it the whole time. Now we have Critical Race Theory being promoted even by the Biden Administration, and white kids are systemically indoctrinated to be ashamed of being white, and indoctrinated to commit to "ending whiteness". If you are indeed a good person, and being a good person is more important to you than being a leftist ideologue, you can see the big problem here. And you can understand the deafening silence of all the "good Jews" in defense of the white majority of this country. The entire Jewish community is united in promoting the radical demographic transformation of the USA and every European country. Just as the slow-motion genocide of the Palestinians is denied and downplayed, no element of the Jewish American community objects to the slow-motion ethnic cleansing of white people in the US and Europe. Promoting the demonization of whites and the "ending" of whiteness are literally the definition of one of the steps of genocide. 90% of violence between whites and blacks is black-on-white violence, but our media/academia/politicians all refuse to report/criticize the epidemic of black-on-white violence. They don't even admit it is a pattern. Instead, they promote the illusion that there is a one-sided race war waged by whites against blacks. By doing so, they are trying to incite even MORE black-on-white violence. And again, this concealing of the black-on-white violence is one of the definitions of a stage of genocide. If your reaction to these facts is to sarcastically say "boo hoo, oh whites are really sooo oppressed", consider the possibility that any current white success occurs DESPITE all of this systemic persecution. New DNA science shows that Sub-Saharan Africans are between 4-19% descended from a "mystery ancestor". They can't even identify which humanoid or hominid that Sub-Saharans are so significantly descended from. And blacks/Sub-Saharans are the ONLY humans who have ZERO Neanderthal DNA. And then I find out that all the early promoters of perfect racial equality just-so-happened to be Jews. No doubt from the Frankist branch of Jewry that brought us Karl Marx and the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory. So tell me, where are the "good" ones that speak up in defense of the white majority of the USA that are systemically demonized by the media, academia, and politicians? Where are the "good" ones who don't blame white people for low black academic performance, and high black crime rates, and high absent father rates? Have you noticed that now the Left is trying to ban words like "father" and "mother" from schools? Have you noticed that dismantling the "nuclear family" is/was part of the official BLM agenda? They finally deleted it from the web site. Did you notice that BLM just-so-happens to be run by two Jews, one of whom was a Weather Underground terrorist who set off a bomb in the Capitol Building in DC? Did you notice that the black leaders of BLM admitted to being "trained Marxists"? Who do you think was training them? www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_RosenbergI used to be a leftist too, and a big Bernie Sanders fan. Then I realized Bernie was just a Jewish-supremacist and proud ethnic nationalist, and everything his does is motivated by "Is it good for the Jews?" And Bernie absolutely HATES white people as a race. The only "good whites", in his mind, are those that are committed to eradicating whiteness. Which turns out to be the reason Bernie's ancestors were persecuted in the first place. Polish/German Jews were running communist revolutions inside Germany, at the exact same time the disproportionately Jewish Soviet generals were committing massive genocide in the Ukraine and Poland with the Holodomor. Ukranian refugees fleeing the Holodomor fled to Germany and told the Germans all about it. And the Communist Revolutions inside Germany were about merging Germany with the USSR, so that the Germans could be genocided too. Ever notice that Jews were kicked out of 109 places, but refuse to accept ANY responsibility at all for these failed relations? Ever notice that with all this anti-white rhetoric, hostility, and violence, led in large part by the Jewish community, that there's ZERO Jewish vocalizing about how wrong and racist this all is? Oh that's right, whites can't be victims of racism, because (THEY) changed the definition of racism to mean "Power Plus Privilege". By their own definition, anti-Semitism is impossible in the USA. Just look at the graph above. I'm still waiting on a real Jewish Enlightenment, but that might be an oxymoron, considering all of Jewish identity is based on being "The Chosen Ones", and "Tikkun Olam", which means "repair the world", which really means Jewish Man's Burden, aka casual Jewish supremacy.
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 16:06:12 GMT -6
"Jews are running the show really indicate that Jewish people have been chosen as fronts for the wider network." Just be honest and admit that it's open season on whites, and it is increasingly illegal to even criticize Jews/Israel/Jewish power. You know who rules over you by who you are not allowed to criticize. Pointing to every gentile collaborator you can think of doesn't mean the power is truly shared. And most of the modern gentile power players appear to be sexual deviants or otherwise blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein types. Think Trump, the Clintons, and even Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. Every subsequent administration's cabinet is more and more Jewish, and more and more outspoken in their loyalty and enthusiasm for Israel and Jewish power. While Obama and Netanyahu didn't personally get along, Obama dragged the US into Syria on Israel's behalf, and toppled Libya and put Sarah Bronfman in charge of US-Libya Commerce. And her husband was being lined up to become the junta "president" of Libya. Obama even stated that if he wasn't black, he would want to be a liberal Jew. Trump obviously LOVED Israel, and his administration was run in large part by the tribe. www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-donald-trump-administrationBiden? His top 10 advisors are just about entirely Jewish. All the Jews Biden has tapped for top roles in his new administration From secretary of state to attorney general, a diverse cross-section of American Jewry is set to fill seats at the incoming president’s Cabinet table and elsewhere in government www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-for-top-roles-in-his-new-administration/Of course the Times of Israel can brag openly about all of this, but in the US, the State Department's new definition of Anti-Semitism practically makes it illegal to state the exact same facts. Because Jewish power is nothing more than "an old anti-Semitic trope". Thus, Jewish power becomes forever more unmentionable in polite company, and is declared to be impossible. No blackmail going on here... It was Lynn Forester de Rothschild who introduced Bill Clinton to Epstein in January 1993, right after Clinton was innaugurated: nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-case.htmlEpstein's handler, former Israeli PM Ehud Barack, going into Epstein's house. Ehud Barak - Architect of 9-11 September 11, 2009 www.bollyn.com/ehud-barak-architect-of-9-11/Photo taken by Jeffrey Epstein, of Prince Andrew and sex trafficked Virginia Roberts. Andrew was in charge of weapons sales for the UK: Now we have Prince Harry going nuclear on his own family, and who does he secretly meet with upon return from Prince Phillips' funeral? None other than Ms Annenberg, the matriarch of the super-powerful Annenberg family, long-time partners with the CIA. The Annenbergs were/are another "Anglo-Zionist" Jewish mafia family, like the Bronfmans and Crowns and Pritzkers and yes the Rothschilds, going back to their financing of the first Opium War on China, through the Sassoon family. AKA Vidal Sassoon's family.
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Post by scout on May 31, 2021 16:40:36 GMT -6
"If the ADL was in fact formed because of "discrimination" against a Jewish pedophile who was protected due to his wealth and connections, well, it's harder to imagine a bigger fuck-you to society." Yes indeed. And what's interesting is that the Leo Frank case made the South realize that Jews could just buy off their justice system, and rape and kill their white children at will. So THAT'S why the KKK was re-established right after the Leo Frank case. It had nothing to do with racism against blacks. And ironically, it appears that it was Jews who created the KKK in the first place around the time of the Civil War. The Lyndon Larouche book "Dope inc. Britain's Opium War Against the U.S." www.pdfdrive.com/dope-inc-britains-opium-war-against-the-us-e34536777.html... states that B'Nai B'Rith International and the World Jewry network basically bet their money on the South winning the Civil War. Recall Juda P Benjamin was the Confederacy's SecState and SecTreasury. Part of this investment in the South winning the war was to create the KKK with a token gentile or two. And I believe there's evidence of John Wilkes Booth meeting with B'Nai B'Rith in DC right before he killed Lincoln. Interesting that the recent Spielberg Lincoln movie was written by probable Mossad asset Tony Kushner, who also wrote the Mossad-friendly movie "Munich". He also wrote "Angels In America", which depicts Ethel Rosenberg as an innocent Angel, a literal Angel. And AiA bashes Roy Cohn as a Jewish traitor/"moser", for prosecuting the Rosenberg Trials. No mention of Roy Cohn running a CIA pedo blackmail ring ala Jeffrey Epstein, of course. Nope, Cohn's big sin was prosecuting the Rosenbergs and not letting them off the hook for being Jewish. So whether it's the passionate support for Leo Frank, or the passionate support of the Rosenbergs, or the passionate support of Jonathan Pollard (now free in Israel), or the passionate support for Woody Allen and Polanski, we can see that "fuck you to society" everywhere.
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Post by Admin Horan on May 31, 2021 16:52:43 GMT -6
Okay. That's enough of that.
There's a lot of conclusion-jumping, rumor-mongering, and innuendo in this "thread." But, there might be facts, as well. I'll leave it up as is until I can edit it.
I don't care if you have a Nobel Prize in Proving White People Are A Picked-On Minority. I don't care if white people ARE a picked-on minority. I don't care if Jews DO "run Hollywood." I don't care if Jews DO "run the world." This website has nothing to do with that. At all. And I'm not arguing about it. At all.
I don't need a million "fans." I don't need "theories." I don't need "people" grinding axes. I need facts.
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