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Post by elantric on Oct 28, 2020 2:26:08 GMT -6
Speaking of cocaine fiends, watch an old pre-Code movie called "Smart Money" starring Edward G. Robinson (as "Nick the Barber.") The girls working in the hotel (and the one who comes around to hit up Nick for a C-note to get an abortion in the first fucking scene) are exactly the girls "Cocaine Fiends" is warning teenaged girls not to end up as. Smart Money 1931 (ENG.SUB) Edward G. Robinson ok.ru/video/1054164191896Look for Boris Karloff in the 1st 15 minutes.
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Post by Admin Horan on Oct 28, 2020 8:52:27 GMT -6
Boris Karloff didn't need monster makeup. He looked scary AF in every movie.
"I've always been a sucker for women!" --Nick the Barber
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 2, 2020 9:00:57 GMT -6
From Jack Johnson: I just recently found out that there has been a story floating around for years that Art Linkletter's son Robert Linkletter was the "Zodiac" killer. Now whether that's true is another story but with all the books, movies, radio shows about the case I have never heard that allegation if only to debunk it. They said Bob Linkletter was at the Tate home along with his sister Diane Linkletter and left his glasses. Diane Linkletter was said to have jumped out her apartment window 2 months or so after the Tate killings. A Hollywood actor Ed Durston was in the apartment with Diane and Ed is said to have been considered a prime suspect in the Tate/Labianca murders and was questioned over several days by LAPD. Ed would later go on in the 1970's to produce hardcore gay porn and one of the actors in his "Manhole" gay porn movie would also be cast in a Clint Eastwood 1976 movie "Enforcer" which was based on the Zodiac character. The gay porn movie Manhole appeared once at it's NYC opening and was pulled and never seen again.
Below is UPI's news release of the 1980 car accident that took Robert Linkletters life. It states the family planned to ask the court to assign Bob's sister "Sharon Melcher" as executor of her dead brothers estate. And if you were wondering , yes Sharon Linkletter had married record producer Terry Melcher who recorded Charles Manson.www.upi.com/Archives/1980/10/08/Art-Linkletters-35-year-old-son-killed-last-month-in-a/4104339825600/In my statement posted above I wrote about Bob Linkletter being the Zodiac and his sister Sharon's marriage to Terry Melcher the son of Doris Day and Manson's record producer. I also mention an actor Ed Durston. Look at this Johnny Carson episode of the TS. His guest is Doris Day and seated to Day's right is Carol Wayne who Ed Durston is suspected of murdering while in Mexico in 1986.
At the 6:16 minute mark Johnny Carson mentions his producer Freddy deCordova. As a side note Cordova's wife was the benefactor to Michelle Phillips of the Moma's and Pappas which included Mansonites John Phillips and Mama Cass Elliot. The de Cordova family are sephardic jews residing in Jamaica and they are one of the leading financial and political family's of Jamaica. In 1980 the de Cordova family got into the jamaican marijuana export business in a big way. One of there employees is C W singer Willie Nelson. If you watch Willie and his boys from the mid 1970's into the 1980's they often sport yellow T-shirts emblazoned with the word JAMAICA. Those in the know understand the message.
Terry Melchers father (Doris Day's husband) Martin Melcher practiced the occult Christian Science
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science
From Wiki: Melcher died on April 20, 1968. According to Day's 1975 autobiography, Melcher's physician informed her that Melcher suffered from an enlarged heart. Melcher practiced Christian Science and elected not to seek medical intervention until his condition deteriorated.
Doris Day would sue her and husband Martin Melcher's lawyer Jerome B. Rosenthal. Mr. Rosenthal's brother was notorious mobster/gambler from Chicago Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal who was portrayed in the movie Casino by Robert De niro.
Look at Rosenthal's obituary from Y2008. There is no mention of family just a refutation of Day's charges of the miscue of his fiduciary obligation to Doris Day. It cost his insurers $6 million.
www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=jerome-bernard-rosenthal&pid=107026040
1980 local news report Doc Anderson, Doris Days personal psychic
Quote from DD Doris Day blatantly stated: “From the very beginning I thought the concept of sins and sinning was repugnant.” As evidenced by Day’s belief system, this concept invariably leads to the espousal of New Age philosophy, which militates against the doctrines of Christianity. She related her idea of God as being identical to that of the occult:
“I feel that God is my very being and God is the life of everything around me. So I don’t have to seek God. He’s right here. I don’t pray. I just realize God.”
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 2, 2020 9:11:57 GMT -6
Carson was nothing. It was ALL Fred DeCordova. He had more blackmail on Hollyweird--including Johnny Carson--than anybody else ever had or ever will have. DeCordova made BIG show biz people get on their knees and BEG to be on the show. And he didn't always say yes. Not even Sinatra could just come on the Tonight Show any time he wanted.
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 2, 2020 10:24:32 GMT -6
So?
PS I forgot to mention that, remember--Mae Brussell ALSO claimed that the Linkletters had something to do with Zodiac. Which I need to look into someday real soon. And the poooooooooooooossible tie-in to the Tylenol poisoning case...
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Post by elantric on Nov 2, 2020 11:25:33 GMT -6
Sooooooooooo....was Sharon (Linkletter) Melcher married to Terry Melcher or Gordon Melcher (not related to Terry) - who you mentioned she was married to in the Marjorie Cameron thread?
Your posts in that thread:
Post by Admin Horan on Jul 28, 2020 at 3:16pm Nope. He was married to Jacqueline Carlin. Who also married Chevy Chase. Sharon Linkletter married a Gordon G Melcher.
Jul 28, 2020 18:25:50 GMT -5 Admin Horan said: No, it's a totally different clan of Melchers, believe it or not. No connection.
I can find zero evidence Sharon Linkletter married Terry Melcher
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 2, 2020 16:46:00 GMT -6
Good. That clears that up. Only 10,000 more vague "leads" to go. That we know of. So far.
Here's what we know that IS interesting. So far:
1. Mark Rosen, of the Venice Beach house where Zero saw the Light, with Bill Vance in attendance, knew the Sinatra kids and Linkletter kids very well. Well enough to kidnap Frank, Jr.
2. On July 15, 1969, Diane Linkletter's brother-in-law John Zweyer was Zeroed while lounging next to his own swimming pool.
3. October 1ish 1969 Diane Linkletter [apparently] fingered her "friend" Ed Durston for Tate, then promptly flew out the kitchen window. Briefly. Murder? Suicide? Ask Zero. Better yet, ask Durston. He was there, in the kitchen, waving her goodbye as she "proceeded out the window."
4. Years later, Durston would wave Freddy DeCordova babe Carol Wayne goodbye as her corpse drifted out to sea.
5. Robert Linkletter's name is on a multibillion dollar patent for a "childproof" cap for medicine bottles. That may or may not have something to do with the Tylenol tampering/poisoning case.
6. Yet another crazy broad named Marie Vigil wrote letters to anyone who would read them (and a lot of people who wouldn't) linking the Linkletter (sorry. That one slipped out) kids to...the kidnapping of a school bus in Chowchilla and the wipeout of the Dr Ohta family. Among other crimes. Including, oh, Zodiac. Supposedly, this Ohta made glasses for the Zodiac Killer and he (Zodiac. Not Ohta) left them at the Tate house. Even though those glasses very, very, very probably belonged to Steven Parent.
7. Now, here's the funny part: Said crazy broad (Vigil, to be specific) claimed that "Zodiac" looked exactly like John Linley Frazier (who went over for the Ohta family wipeout) and that Frazier and Zodiac acted as "body doubles" for one another. Funny, because there IS a very, very, very good suspect in the Tate wipeout who DID look exactly like Frazier--"Karate Dave" Lipsett (may or may not be his real name. Natch.) Was Frazier/Karate Dave the "Zodiac Killer?" Does the pope shit in his hat?
8. Oh. I almost forgot. That bus kidnapping? Involved ANOTHER troubled rich kid, Frederick Woods IV. Boy, is HIS family interesting...
9. Anyhoo, supposably, this Woods IV was part of a gang/"cult" consisting of lots of rich kids. Kids who match the personality profiles of Mark Rosen, Diane Linkletter, Abigail Folger, Will Rogers Jr, Frank Sinatra Jr, Patty Hearst...
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Post by jack on Nov 9, 2020 16:04:34 GMT -6
Carson was nothing. It was ALL Fred DeCordova. He had more blackmail on Hollyweird--including Johnny Carson--than anybody else ever had or ever will have. DeCordova made BIG show biz people get on their knees and BEG to be on the show. And he didn't always say yes. Not even Sinatra could just come on the Tonight Show any time he wanted. I recall in the early 90's when SNL comics were writing and performing skits about Johnny Carson being "over the hill". I thought this strange because Carson had given many of them a appearance on his show in the 1980's. But it appeared SNL was trying to push Carson into retirement. Anyway Lorne Michaels of SNL now owns the Tonight Show. There are several connections to SNL and Manson. Chevy Chase married Terry Melcher's ex wife and his father remarried the daughter of Folger Coffee big executive, Al Franken was connected to Grateful Dead and later Phil Hartman who was friends with Squeaky Fromme was shot to death while sleeping. Current SNL'er Bill Hader who is fascinated with serial killers and the TV shows that feature them did this impression of SNL producer Lorne Michaels on Conan O'Brien show. Is it funny because it contains more truth that Bill and Conan are willing to let on?
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Post by Admin Horan on Nov 10, 2020 9:03:35 GMT -6
Speaking of segues, I noticed something about David Letterman that no one has ever mentioned: the way he treated his staff. Carson (and DeCordova) often treated the staff of the Tonight Show like shit. The best example I can think of is his "farewell" episode, a little short behind-the-scenes film that was, according to Johnny's introduction, supposed to be about the STAFF. But when you watch it, it's about JOHNNY. Period.
Dave made his staff stars of his show. It's not just "cute" the way he let them pop up on the show for a few seconds of dialogue or a little skit or whatever. Under union contracts, they got PAID extra money to come out during the monologue and bash their boss, or whatever. When the Writers Guild went out on strike, Letterman, who got his start in the business as a writer, did not cross their picket line until he settled with them separately. NO ONE else on TV did that. No one.
Now, back to the topic at hand: watch old episodes, and cringe while Johnny and his guests joke and joke and joke about being pedophiles.
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Post by jack on Dec 2, 2020 8:11:03 GMT -6
you guys have probably seen this before but the link takes you to a UPI story from March 1970 and in this article they call future Los Angeles District Attorney Ira Reiner a FRIEND of Charles Manson. In 1970 Reiner is a 34 year old attorney in private practice. . It's the 7th or 8th paragraph from the beginning of the story line. www.cielodrive.com/archive/accused-slayer-chooses-inexperienced-attorney/ In Y2002 I was watching the old Larry King TV show and he had some of the lawyers from Manson family girls still in prison. One of the girls attorney was Ira Reiner former LA District Attorney and the other was former Justice Department criminal prosecutor John Markham III. Now I knew nothing of Markham but found out some years later that John Markham III was the lawyer for the Process Church of the Final Judgment (Manson was involved with this satanic group and Manson wrote an article on Death for the Process magazine after he had been arrested in the Tate/Labianca massacre). So Larry King and Fake News had two apparent lawyers for satanist cults on his program so they could plead for release of two of their killers. Now if you look at Reiners professional career in Los Angeles he covered up the notorious child sex abuse case the infamous McMartin Daycare case from the mid 1980's and he prosecuted Richard Ramirez the Night Stalker. And he almost got an acquittal for the Hillside Stranglers. It's an amazing world we live in. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Reiner
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Post by jack on Dec 2, 2020 8:55:46 GMT -6
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 3, 2020 8:48:36 GMT -6
Well, huuurs what I found out so far:
The federal prosecutor on the LaRouche case in question was John JE Markham II, Esq., currently a partner in Markham & Read, Boston, MA. He graduated from Roanoke College in Virginia in 1969, then got his JD from Washington & Lee in 1972. He was a federal prosecutor in several states for years, then went into private practice in SF, DC, New York, and Boston. He mostly handles fraud cases, including money laundering, interestingly enough. Also, federal narcotics trafficking. In his younger days, he did represent a lot of leftie cases, so I guess the Process Church could have been one, especially in SF.
There IS a John Markham III, an MD doctor and Catholic priest who works at a VA hospital in Augusta GA.
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 4, 2020 10:51:06 GMT -6
What are they worth? Like all "tips," hunches, stories, they might be worth following up on. And I think they are. It's just that this John Markham is too young to be a lawyer in the 60s. But, he WAS a kind of very active junior college-council type of "counsel" at mock trials, student-administration hearings, etc, when he was in college. So, maybe he traveled to SF or LA for one of those.
Jim Markham was born in Texas and grew up in New Mexico. This John Markham II, Esq seeeeeeems to have come from Ol' Virginny. And I'm still curious about Father John Markham III, MD. Exspecially when David Gerrold turns out to be a closet MD psychiatrist, and when so many of our Satanic Brethren (including HOM "bishops") have ties to Holy Mother Church.
Could be nothing. But, could be something. And, again, there is no evidence as yet that Jim Markham PLANNED to get rid of Jay, but somebody needed to do something to start running the company like a business. Maybe Jay's death was just a lucky accident.
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 5, 2020 11:04:54 GMT -6
Bezactly. But, if a relative of Jim Markham was doing some kind advocacy on behalf of the Process Church (or any other dangerous cult) at the time of the murder of Jay Sebring and several of his shareholders, THAT would be very, very interesting.
BTW, Jim Markham's next business partner, after Sebring, was, of course, Ratpack Kennedy-in-law Peter Lawford. Very, very close friend of left coast mobster Johnny Roselli. So, what? Rosselli had a job--a "producer" at Monogram Pictures, in the late 1950s, when our boy Charlie Manson was out and about roping girls for shady Hollyweird "producers." So, what? Well, oncet Monogram merged with Allied Artists, then became KCET, they became--Dunt, dunt, duuuuuuunnnn....The Church of Scientology Film and Television Media Center.
Anyhoo, Rosselli was once "fined" 55 large for running CROOOOOOOOO-ked Hollyweird poker games. As in, mILLIONS of dollars, back when a million dollars was a lot of money. So, what? Our boy Charlie Manson "worked" as a pimp, paper hanger, carjacker, and...raker for underground poker games. In Hollywood.
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 7, 2020 9:57:15 GMT -6
There are so many John Markhams. And several of them are attorneys.
Here is what I call a credible hypothesis: Jay Sebring's buddies in Sam Giancana's mob were jockeying for position in LA with Patriarcha's Boston mob and and the new Genovese boss Lombardo. Rostau and Massaro are supposed to be representing Patriarcha and Lombardo, but are also, of course, out for themselves. Jay, Pic Dawson, and other Hollyweird candyman start playing all sides against the middle. And there is this big, FAT, legitimate business opportunity--take control of Sebring International and run it like a business. The Boston and New York mobs are in some disarray in 1969, with the deaths of Vito Genovese and Boston's own Joe Lombardo (a name to conjure with here in St Louis, BTW) and Giancana's Chicago outfit is at the height of their organization, so they could kill several stones with one bird--Jay Sebring--and take over Sebring International, with Jim Markham as CEO and Peter Lawford as Chairman of the Board of Mobsters With Their Fingers In The Men's Haircare Pie. Meanwhile, the LA machine is being dismantled, possibly with the help of the LaBiancas, who have burned the LA mob up one side and down the other, and can never, ever hope to get out of debt to them, and have very little choice except to turn informant. (Unlike the movies, mobsters rat on each other ALL THE TIME.) Rostau and Massaro were definitely informants. After they bump Sebring and friends (the other three victims may have just been cover for bumping Sebring) with the help of Tex or whoever (and again, it was probably a case of a lot of people wanting all four victims dead) they themselves are eliminated by their own mobs. It's not like the NY and Boston mobs want Sharon Tate's killers flapping their gums about it.
That's one thing that has always bothered me about this "case:" Why weren't ANY of the "killers" killed? You've seen MacBeth. Nobody trusts a murderer, especially not other murderers. But there's those first two suspects (after Doyle and Harrigan come up with alibis) Rostau and Massaro, and they ARE dead less than a year later. And again, more than one person wanted THEM dead, for more than one reason. If you're going to run an entire "family," like the wide-open LA territory in 1969, you gotta make your "bones." Literally. So, if Rostau and Massaro didn't kill (at least some) of the Manson victims, whom DID they kill?
The ONLY member of the Manson Family to get bumped was Zero. I can't help wondering if HE killed Hinman. Know what I mean?
The 1960s were a time of mafias getting dismantled by the Feds. That's how you end up with sloppy butchers like Gotti in charge. Maybe they were so desperate for muscle they hired anybody who walked in off the commune. Know what I mean? Because SO MANY of these "cases" have blatantly obvious mafia motives and tie-ins, and the ONLY reason we don't think most of them are mafia hits is just the crazy MO's, that appear inconsistent with the usual mafia hit. Maybe they started hiring kooky freelancers because they just didn't have anybody else to turn to.
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