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Post by karis on Nov 27, 2018 22:48:44 GMT -6
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Post by retiredle on Jan 5, 2019 14:43:50 GMT -6
Wow,
She definitely walked in blood.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 29, 2019 10:30:00 GMT -6
Great find! The autopsy report also mentions the blood having squished up between her toes.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 23, 2019 8:52:14 GMT -6
How did you get that photo of Sue's feet?I'm studying this case too.Do you have other photos of Sue?
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 23, 2019 8:56:18 GMT -6
I think it's probably justin or maybe Tina also helped..there's no sign of head trauma from her skull.
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 23, 2019 9:36:09 GMT -6
We've shared all the photos we could find. They were once posted on another website, but they tended to prove the "Marty and Bo did it" theory, so they were deleted from that site.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 23, 2019 19:41:28 GMT -6
Oic..I've been studying their case. I hope it gets solved this time..someone said Justin's DNA was found, so maybe he was into it..but I guess the process is taking too long.That tape they found I think it was staged..probably a set up so it will look like Marty and Bo and some other people did it, but there was no sign of any intruder or like a forced entry. And yes maybe Dana was really the cause, of him being diabetic and maybe it was misunderstood..so someone tried to attack him. Or either Tina fought with her Mom because of the clothes from inside of their bedroom or either Tina wanted to stow away or something that made Sue went out of her room.From what I've read, Sue went for a grocery that morning.And maybe Tina carried the tool box or shoe box to bring some foods or important things when she ran away. Because they say she was wearing clothes like she's going out of the house so it wasn't a kidnap thing...And hey the objects mostly came from the house except for the ripple. So perhaps something had gone wrong, for sure there was misunderstanding..and yes 99 percent of suspects who covers the person they kill with a blanket are usually women.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 23, 2019 19:51:17 GMT -6
Everyone of them should cooperate with the case including the two other (Sharp) boys inside the bedroom. And that hammer they found, again maybe a set up or maybe the killer was the one who put that hammer after killing them or it can be Tina when she went out. We're not there that time but we must consider every possibilities whatever it is because it's a crime so everyone should be involved..I mean everyone has the possibility of becoming a suspect.
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Post by kmik on Apr 23, 2019 20:56:09 GMT -6
Absolutely!
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 24, 2019 6:11:54 GMT -6
This is what I have found in the the files, plus what I've been able to beat out of Gamberg, in a nutshell: 1. Justin's DNA was found on the sticky side of the tape around Sue's gag. I'd say police found his fingerprints there right away, and that's one reason he changed his story during his second "hypnosis" session. NO ONE else's fingerprints were found on that tape. 2. Several bloody fingerprints were found, but were too smudged for comparison purposes, except for the one found several days later on the post at the bottom of the backdoor stairs. (That one did NOT belong to Marty or Bo.) But they were clear enough to prove that none of them were made by "gloves." 3. The only "outsider" fingerprints found belonged to various Meeks brothers, their adopted cousin Philip "Chief" Shearer (who also confessed to police, by the way) and [apparently] Henry Thompson. Each of them came up with witnesses who said they had been in Cabin 28 recently, but still...4. The killers did not wear gloves, yet neither Marty's nor Bo's fingerprints were found anywhere. Just fingerprints belonging to other good suspects. 5. The only bloody shoeprints visible in the available crime scene photos belong to a child's size pair of GASS shoes, which Tina owned a pair of, and which she was wearing when she disappeared. Several bloody shoeprints on the carpet were removed by DOJ crime scene techs, but they are in line with the one visible on the couch cushion, and therefore, are probably Tina's as well. If they belonged to men's dress shoes, you can bet your hat someone would have leaked photos of them by now. 6. Again, when Justin was "questioned" under "hypnosis" the second time, he comes up with this "memory" of one of the killers having "waffle-soled" work boots, and again, that sounds exactly like a guilty suspect trying to explain evidence that he and Tina participated. 7. The hammer that was used to knock Johnny and Dana on the head (but not hard enough to cave in the skulls; only hard enough to put a few dents in them) was found IN THE CABIN, next to the butcher knife that was used to stab Sue in the chest. That stab wound is consistent with an assailant who was not as strong as a full-grown man. The narrow, thin blade (like a "stick knife," or maybe, a pair of scissors) that was used to stab Johnny in the carotid artery, and the air rifle that was apparently used on Sue, were not found in the cabin. That is, two of the weapons were removed at the same time Tina left, and the two weapons that were used last were still in the cabin with Justin. EVEN IF the hammer fond recently belonged to Marty, it doesn't matter, because that WAS NOT the hammer used on the victims. 8. An empty tape roll was found near Tina's body, but not the first knife, nor the air rifle. That fact, and the distance away from Keddie that Tina had traveled, does suggest she got a ride from someone (maybe the person who wore the blue jacket that was found buried not far from her body.) Two people who knew all about Camp 18 were--Henry Thompson and his buddy Chuck Walke. Who admit they were in Keddie early Sunday morning, the time when Tina "disappeared" from Keddie.
In other words, ALL of the known physical evidence points DIRECTLY to the kids, and no one else, except maybe Chuck and Henry. Did they have a motive? Yeah. One thing Sheila and her uncle Don Davis (Sue's brother) lied to police about was Sue's relationship to the kids' father, Jim Sharp. They even tried to frame him. But it turns out the kids were angry with Sue, and wanted to go back and live with their dad (for a lot of understandable reasons.) Sheila REALLY had a motive, and no one's statements to police (to the extent we have been able read any of them) are more suspicious than Sheila's. Justin's mere presence at a "sleepover" in Cabin 28 that night is suspicious, especially when the ONLY "evidence" we have that he was invited to such a sleepover comes from--brace yourself--the kids. NO ONE else (as far as we know) ever told police ANYTHING about Justin being there on invitation or by arrangement. His brother Casey slept at home that night. And it seems awfully funny that SUE would insist (at the last minute) on Tina sleeping in a house full of no one else but horny teenaged boys that night of all nights. SHEILA claimed that Justin drove into town that morning to sign up for Little League baseball, and only Tina stayed home "alone," but Justin never said anything about that. It seems more likely that Justin AND Tina were "alone" together that morning. Last but not least, it is abundantly clear from their actions, their press releases, and their questions that [most, anyway] investigators believed that Tina was involved, and that the kids were covering for her (and Justin.)
The funny thing is, it sure looks an awful lot like Sheila, Tina, Justin, Johnny, and Chuck and Henry planned to kill Sue and make it look like Johnny's new "friend" Dana did it. And then something went wrong (and maybe THAT'S when they called Henry for help.) For example, maybe it was supposed to look like Dana knocked out Johnny, and they accidentally hit Johnny too hard. So Sheila, Justin, and Justin's "mother" turned around and started trying to frame Marty and Bo, instead. They even got Marty to go along with it by "confessing" to a VA counselor. Over the phone.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 24, 2019 20:35:26 GMT -6
I guess you're right Sir. I'm almost shocked with everything you said, but maybe ur right. They're trying to cover up everything because it's the kids.By the way why did Sue decided to separate from her husband?is he really abusive? Or is there something wrong with Sue..or?
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 24, 2019 20:42:05 GMT -6
By the way I saw Justin's fb account. Already have two kids. With the interview on him that I've watched he kinda looked like a psycho. It's not that i'm easily judging but it's the first impression I had. By the way we also need to trace the background of Sue on how she dealt with those kids and also her husband. About their family relationship so we can also trace the very main reason on why they killed her(if ever) Coz there must be something wrong really with their family relationship aside from Justin. But anyway even if Sue wasn't a good mother (if ever she is) still, she doesn't deserve to be killed. For sure of course she's a Mom so she probably really cares for her kids and she's studying too, right? They say she's doing everything to raise her kids even when she's already alone/separated from her husband.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 24, 2019 22:02:42 GMT -6
When I saw Justin's fb account, he's so happy because of his family but damn, i immediately thought about justice having no expiration date.I firmly believe that he also took Sue's life or he's one of those people responsible because of his DNA. I even wonder why he's not yet being arrested.I really feel pity for Sue and the lives they took.They don't deserve to be killed like that even if(ever) they did something wrong. Oh, poor Sue...😔 may they rest in peace and hopefully they get justice they deserve. I really hope someone is going to expose everything abt those files. If only I am there I'm gonna trace those files even wothout asking permission from them. Someone or some of them must be keeping those real files I believe and they're doing it to earn more money, so they're changing stories for people to believe in those lies so they will also earn from it by producing different productions with false stories. If only I can steal those files... but Sir if you can give me some info on where they keep those files maybe I can do something abt it.I'm not in U.S. but I'm planning to be there nxt yr because of the visa processing so I still need to wait. But I really like to help. Maybe Shiela might not be involved with the killing but maybe she helped to cover up her Sister Tina. But we also need to trace the background of Sue's children aside from Sue and her husband so that we will know what motivated them to kill(if ever) their own mother.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 24, 2019 22:22:57 GMT -6
Maybe Justin killed Sue and Tina was the one who covered her with a yellow blanket because the blanket came from Tina's bed or from the girl's bedroom. And it can also be, the fight came from inside the bedroom because of scattered clothes. Maybe Tina fought with her mom or we don't know, maybe Sue came out of the room and found out they're already having a fight with Dana and Johnny, that's why Sue walked in those bloods, and the way they gagged them indicates something that Johnny and Dana is their opponent because they're connected, I mean the ropes or correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe when Johnny and Dana came home they found out Tina and Justin doing something so they fought with them and as I know, as what Shiela said from the interview Johnny eventhough he's small he's feisty so he probably fought but Dana was the first one who got killed by them then after an hour it's Johnny then Sue went out of the bedroom because her eyeglasses in the bedroom indicates that she came from the bedroom, isn't it?, then she walked on their blood and lastly they attacked Sue. Because Sue lying from another position would also indicate that she was killed separately after they killed Johnny and Dana. Then Tina covered Sue before she left.There was no indication that she was abducted and why bring her most precious possession if she was abducted and there would be no time for that but then she managed to bring to bring that box and her mind you, her attire, it's like she really is going out of the house and maybe with those clothes scattered inside the bedroom indicates that she was already in a hurry like she's running out of time or perhaps already so nervous that she was really in a hurry to escape from their cabin like she doesnt know what clothes or things she will bring.remember those clothes scattered inside their bedroom and even in the living room.
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Post by tinkryz5 on Apr 25, 2019 1:52:24 GMT -6
Oh and by the way..justin said that there were two male suspect, if so, why didn't he immediately called the police after the crime happened?so he slept all night long knowing that there are dead bodies in the living room? And he kept changing his stories too which would obviously mean that he's lying. Damn during the interview from the documentary of keddie murders Justin actually looked like a psycho. You can feel it by looking at him.
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