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Post by karis on Mar 22, 2018 20:53:30 GMT -6
Quotes from 28
Nov 4, 2017:
Nov 30, 2017:
This is the problems I'm having with the bartender's story:
Feather River bulletin list the dates for summer semester as June 16, 1980 (6 wks). The fall semester is listed as Sept. 9, 1980
Marty and Marilyn move to Keddie July, 1980/ Marty moved and started a new job as a cook in the keddie restaurant. ( Sue did not move to Keddie till Nov. 1980 – 4 months later.)
They did not arrive in Keddie in time for the summer semester. They would have started in the fall. That is fact according to the timeline.
1. Dee Lake meets Martin S. Sept. 1980 (according to the timeline) 2. Marilyn meets Sue after shortly after Sue moves to Keddie. (according to the timeline)
Russell Reid FRC Instructor: Sue started one class and dropped out after 9-18-1980. (School started 9-9-80 so she dropped the class after 9 days)
1. Unless he is part of the "cover-up" this statement is fact according to the PON list.
2. 7-1-80 Tina is molested (reported by Sue)
3. Shelia gets pregnant
4. According to Sheila, Johnny is beginning to get into trouble
5. Sue leaves Quincy for Keddie
All of this was going on during the months from July thru November. The molesting case was still going on "extended in early 1981" according to the reports. She finds out her 13-14 year old daughter is pregnant by her "best friend's" son. She packs sheila up and takes her to oregon to her sister's to have the baby. During the month of November she moves to Keddie and goes back to get Sheila for Thanksgiving and again at Christmas.
NO WHERE , IN ANY REPORT WE HAVE, HAS ANY WOMEN COME FORWARD AND SAID SHE WAS SEEING MARTY SMARTT.
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Post by jmo on Mar 22, 2018 22:22:29 GMT -6
Exactly. It just doesn't add up.
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Post by kmik on Apr 8, 2018 17:56:12 GMT -6
Also Sue had been seeing Darely J for a few weeks before the murders, and Joe Baze about 6 weeks before the murders, along with Afton Sharp about a year before the murders, and Robert Tramell(?) sometime before the murders. So when was she going to the Pioneer Bar with Marty(without Marilyn)? No doubt Sue dated but when was she seeing Marty?
It's funny that Dana's old girlfriend was the one to tell the story of Tina being pregnant by Marty, and her friend was the one to tell the police that Marty was seeing Sue, AND from the PON list:
MOLLER, DAVE (FR BULLETIN) One of Dana's girlfriends knows girl who said Sue had a black boyfriend who broke up with her on 4/10/81 <CRIM>
Dana's girlfriends sure seem to know a lot about the Sharps.
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 9, 2018 8:09:30 GMT -6
And again, it's aaaalllll third hand. Fourth hand. Fifth hand. (except for the one or two guys who told police directly that yes, they had dated Sue.)
And again, she was an OFFICER'S wife. What is she doing supposedly dating all these semi-employed/unemployed/younameits in Deadend, USA? Why isn't she trying to get her hooks into Baird McKnight Jr or Roger Stratton or one of the Crockers? Doug Thomas? Someone like that?
Maybe she was...those guys suuuuuuuure wouldn't be in a hurry to run to the PCSO and tell THEM that.
There's just this huge black hole where Sue's background and activities should be. Does anyone even know where she's FROM, originally? How she met Jim? She was what, 19, when Johnny was born? 18 when she got pregnant. Her kinfolks all seem to live around Portland. Was she from there? Why didn't she move back there after she left Jim?
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Post by jmo on Apr 10, 2018 15:27:14 GMT -6
Wasn't Keddie pretty White Bread Amarika at that time?? I could be wrong but the only "black boyfriend" Sue could have possible had would have been one of the Compton boys.
"Not sure if the Crocker brothers appear in any of the documents posted here, but they remind me of the Compton brothers, who allegedly had pictures of the Sharp family in their possession with their faces X'ed out."
Evelyn Ray Compton-Sutton age 73 died April 15th, 2003 at Plumas District Hospital located in Quincy, CA. Born December 22nd, 1929 to Robert and Gertrude Sutton in Oakdale, Louisiana her family soon moved to Pineville, Louisiana where she resided until moving to Quincy in 1957. Survived by her sons Robert Juel Compton, Karl Chico Compton both of Reno, NV, Kenneth Ray Compton, of Quincy, CA, Brian David Compton of Reno, NV, Charles Raynard Compton of Quincy, CA, Rev. Jeffrey Belvin of Richmond, CA, Adrian Bryan Compton of Quincy, CA and Burnell Compton of Reno, NV; daughters Cynthia Denise Compton of Quincy, CA and Caryn Gay Compton of Chico, CA.
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Post by kmik on Apr 10, 2018 21:10:58 GMT -6
Yes I just thought it was weird that Dana's friends seem to know about Sue love life and Tina's life.
The Comptons must have been well known and the mother (and possibly the whole family) was well liked. According to one article in the FRB Dana's mom was living with one of the Compton boys in 1986. Dana's mom and dad were not divorced until 1996 (FRB).
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Post by Admin Horan on Apr 11, 2018 10:08:05 GMT -6
More like white tr-------I won't say it. It's not a moral judgment; it's just a fact.
TEN kids??? Yikes! Maybe some of them are step-kids?
Reverend Jeffrey Eugene Belvin? Of RICHMOND, California? One of these things is not like the others...His mother was Bessie Mae Belvin, born in 1934 in Arkansas. Bessie Mae once lived in Quincy (she married Verl Belvin of Quincy, 11 months after giving birth to an apparently illegitimate son, Gary, in Richmond. Gary's father's name was--brace yerselfs--Davis.) She has a daughter who lives/lived in Quincy.
Are the other Comptons African American, as well?
...I wonder if Evelyn was somehow related to Carol Sutton, the actress (from Louisiana)?
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Post by jmo on Apr 11, 2018 10:46:57 GMT -6
OMG Shut the front door. You had me at Bessie Mae. And, then you hit me with Davis?? Well, played sir. Well played. haha
And, yes. I believe they are. The mom was pretty well liked and quite the go-getter. I think she was incharge of Plumas preschool or sumtin. I don't know how she had time to do all her obit says she did. Doesn't seem like she was home much other than to have another baby. Odd.
And, Dana's mom lived with one of the Comptons? Can this get any messier? Why yes. Yes it can.
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Post by karis on Jun 26, 2018 5:32:43 GMT -6
July 27, 1981 DOJ Harry Bradley has obtained information that Sue Sharp has a boyfriend that sang at the Keddie Back Door. Robert T. of Portola used to sing at the Back Door but he was killed in an auto accident while running from Portola deputies near the end of April of this year.
I wonder who gave the police this information.
May 6, 1981 Feather River Bulletin, Vol. 115 No. 39 One dead after chase
A Portola man allegedly trying to outrun Sheriff's Deputies died when he lost control of his car and wrecked early yesterday morning according to Plumas County Sheriff and California Highway Patrol (CHP) reports.
Pronounced dead on arrival at Eastern Plumas District Hospital was Robert D. Trammell, 37. Authorities said Trammell was causing a disturbance at the Gold Rush Saloon, causing an employee to summon Deputy Terry Bergstrand and Sergeant Dick MacKenzie to the scene.
Upon their arrival around 2 a.m., Trammell reportedly got in his 1981 Subaru and went East at a high rate of speed on Hwy. 70. He turned north onto Grizzley Creek Road with the officers following in a high speed chase, reports said.
About 2.5 miles north of Hwy. 70, Trammell was attempting to take a sharp turn when he lost control of his vehicle and was ejected.
Obituary for Robert D Trammell
Robert Trammell, 37, of Portola, died Tuesday May 5.
He was born in Fresno Ca., Febuary 25, 1944, and was employed as a restoration specialist for the state. He was a member of the Calpine Elks Lodge no. 2432 and a member of the E Clampus Vitus.
He is survived by his wife Mary Kaye of Portola, daughters Raijeanne and Paige of Portola; and a brother Marian of Oregon.
Services were held May 9 at the United Methodist Community Church in Portola.
So If Sue was seeing him, he could have been separated but he was married.
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Post by Kay on Mar 24, 2019 20:35:39 GMT -6
Does anyone know who Dana’s girlfriend was? It was rumored she was 27 or older, and also how does she supposedly have all this information about Tina and everyone else? Did Johnny tell Dana, who told his girlfriend? Also something interesting to add, I was reading YouTube comments on one of the videos and someone replied that their husband was the son of Dana and that he was 6 months old when Dana died. Could that be true and has anyone looked into it? This is my first time replying to the forum but I have read almost all of it so my apologies if some of these questions have been answered already.
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Post by jmo on Mar 24, 2019 21:56:49 GMT -6
Could you post where you saw this? Dana was quite the interesting fella. Always feel free to ask questions here. :-)
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Post by Kay on Mar 25, 2019 8:46:57 GMT -6
Hey thanks! I always get nervous to ask questions about this became the guy from keddie 28 will degrade your existence if yousay anything he doesn't like lol. If you go to his YouTube channel, keddie28, under the video 'Keddie Murders: Wingate's Discuss the Keddie Murders' someone named Michelle commented and said 'My husband is the father of Dana Paul Wingate! His mother was Dailyn Preston'. She then replies to someone and say herhusband was only 6 months old when this happened. I was wondering if this was true or if anyone had thought to question or talk to this girl. But you are correct, Dana had a very interesting life. I feel like they all had interesting lives.
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Post by kmik on Mar 25, 2019 8:48:56 GMT -6
Hi Kay! We "think" Kathy Beckley is the older woman referred to in the FBI report. Who knows? It has been said that Dana did have a child but Kathy is not the mother and I'd rather not post who the woman was on the forum.
I see you have already posted the name but yes that is who we heard it was. I think Dailyn is deceased?
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Post by Admin Horan on Mar 25, 2019 9:07:50 GMT -6
Penny Waltermire and her girlfriends may have ALL fooled around with Dana.
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Post by Kay on Mar 25, 2019 9:09:05 GMT -6
The name was posted on YouTube, but hopefully the woman is resting peacefully. Has anyone ever thought of starting a thread of each victim to discuss their lives and what was going on (to an extent, obviously, since most of them were minors) and what was going on with everyone leading up to the murders? This whole case is so interesting to me because it seems like majority of the people involved have not stuck to any of their stories which makes this case harder to solve.
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